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#1 RichardTheFrog

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Posted November 16 2014 - 02:36 PM

Why is art important?

 

I'm a science guy.

 

I read history books and when it comes to the art section of each chapter, I don't entirely see the point.

 

Gothic cathedrals, Michaelangelo, architecture, Shakespeare, etc.

 

How is this relevant and important?

 

I'm not saying that it's not. I am just asking if there is something that I'm missing.



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Posted November 16 2014 - 02:41 PM

 

 I am just asking if there is something that I'm missing.

 

 

Appreciation... apparently.


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Posted November 16 2014 - 02:52 PM

Yea I mean the Taj Mahal is beautiful.



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Posted November 16 2014 - 03:00 PM

Art can capture a particular place in time as well as universals of the human experience, often evoking qualia as well as making some type of statement. Art is a viscereal human experience.


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Posted November 16 2014 - 03:11 PM

cool.



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Posted November 16 2014 - 03:38 PM

I am just asking if there is something that I'm missing.

Yes, soul.
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Posted November 16 2014 - 03:39 PM

To me, art is important because it's a form of expression. Whether it's architecture, music, sculptures, photography, etc. It's just another medium for self-expression. 

 

Personally, I'm a very visual-artsy minded person. You could give me a book to analyze and I would have no problem, but you give me a basic algebra problem and I'm stumped. Different people see things differently :) 


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Posted November 16 2014 - 03:41 PM

To me, art is important because it's a form of expression. Whether it's architecture, music, sculptures, photography, etc. It's just another medium for self-expression. 

 

Personally, I'm a very visual-artsy minded person. You could give me a book to analyze and I would have no problem, but you give me a basic algebra problem and I'm stumped. Different people see things differently :)

 

Do you mean a fictional book? Or a science textbook? Or both?



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Posted November 16 2014 - 03:44 PM

I'm talking more Shakespeare, short stories, fictional books, and the occasional non-fiction book. 

I'm good at understanding the English language for the most part, and can find secondary or deeper meaning in texts. For example, I excel at analyzing the meanings of poems that I read at school. 

 

Like I said, some people have an understanding and appreciation for things like reading and writing, and others like yourself have an understanding and appreciation of things like math and science. The world would be a pretty boring place if we all thought the exact same way :)


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Posted November 16 2014 - 03:46 PM

What is the meaning of a poem for example? Like Robert Frost "The Road Less Travelled"....

 

it means that sometimes it's good to take the lesser travelled route, right?

 

So I get it too, don't I?



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Posted November 16 2014 - 03:51 PM

Anything is only as important as you make it to be....and by you ,I mean anyone.....

 

 

I love art and making art......would not want to live in a world without it.

Creativity.....freedom......the beauty of it all.


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Posted November 16 2014 - 03:54 PM

You should take some acid, man.


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Posted November 16 2014 - 03:55 PM

What is the meaning of a poem for example? Like Robert Frost "The Road Less Travelled"....

 

it means that sometimes it's good to take the lesser travelled route, right?

 

So I get it too, don't I?

 

That could be the meaning, it's all in how an individual interprets it. 

 

And I'm not saying that a person can ONLY see things one way or another- artistically or scientifically minded- but rather that individuals often have a way of thinking that's either one way or another. Sometimes both. I just happen to be a more art-minded person. 

 

To you, art might not be as valuable or important as it is to others.



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Posted November 16 2014 - 03:56 PM

What do you think is more valuable, art or science? And don't say "both."

 

Science includes technology and we are all using computers right now, as well as knowledge just for it's own sake such as the geological history of Earth.

 

Electricity, computers, cars, trains, engines, metallurgy.....



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Posted November 16 2014 - 03:57 PM

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Posted November 16 2014 - 04:01 PM

^Is someone talking shit about you? I don't see it here.....

 

Maybe technology and things are more important for societies, sure.....but that does not mean I love art any less....

It is what I am all about...You are all about something different. that is life....We are not all the same sardines in the same can.



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Posted November 16 2014 - 04:03 PM

Oh maybe he wasn't, I don't know.

 

I have a suspicious thought process (paranoid - schizophrenia), maybe I interpret things the wrong way. And it's really hard to tell sarcasm over the internet.



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Posted November 16 2014 - 04:06 PM

To me, art is one of the highest endeavers in which humans can indulge themselves. Each aspect and type reflects the differences that humans observe about ourselvess

 

 and the world around us.  The differences are reflected in the myriad ways in which art manifests and the way each individual receives it. I enjoy most types of artful attempts

 

 at  whatever artists chose to interpret their particular visions. I've seen art in the way a man built river rock chimneys in Florida. They were beautiful and perfectly constructed.

 

 I've seen transitory art in a pile of leaves suddenly dancing perfectly in time in the wind to the music I happened to be listening to. Lasted a mere minute.

 

 There can be art in most everything if ones attention is given to observing such.

 

 It's been proven that doing art and especially music is beneficial to young minds. It is much better than what occupies most of humanity.

 

 

 I find it interesting that the 'money' folks cut art from schools first, when cuts are needed.


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Posted November 16 2014 - 04:08 PM

What do you think is more valuable, art or science? And don't say "both."
 
Science includes technology and we are all using computers right now, as well as knowledge just for it's own sake such as the geological history of Earth.
 
Electricity, computers, cars, trains, engines, metallurgy.....


Why would she have to choose which one is more valuable?
Your intention is to make a point that science is more important and useful.

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Posted November 16 2014 - 04:11 PM

What's the most beautiful piece of art in the world? Is it Michaelangelo's David? The Taj Mahal? The Sphinx?



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Posted November 16 2014 - 04:12 PM

Why would she have to choose which one is more valuable?
Your intention is to make a point that science is more important and useful.

 

No, it wasn't.



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Posted November 16 2014 - 04:31 PM

What is the meaning of a poem for example? Like Robert Frost "The Road Less Travelled"....

 

it means that sometimes it's good to take the lesser travelled route, right?

 

So I get it too, don't I?

 

 

Assuming you mean Frost's "The Road Not Taken," this is one of the most frequently misunderstood and misinterpreted poems. If you actually read the poem, in the fourth stanza, he looks back upon his decision with a sigh. This sigh is most likely one of regret. 

 

 

Why is art important?

 

I'm a science guy.

 

I read history books and when it comes to the art section of each chapter, I don't entirely see the point.

 

Gothic cathedrals, Michaelangelo, architecture, Shakespeare, etc.

 

How is this relevant and important?

 

I'm not saying that it's not. I am just asking if there is something that I'm missing.

 

If you actually study art history, you will find that a lot of art is relevant to social movements. There are so many hidden political messages within impressionism and modernism. The creation of art is an effective way to convey a message without just blathering about it. Look at Gustave Courbet's piece "The Stonebreakers." Painted in 1845, it was revolutionary really. In a time when most art was created in the style of the salon portraying relaxing and pretty images, Courbet made a statement about the plight of the poor. The image is almost violent with the hammers, and it came shortly before the French revolution. Viewers found it to be remarkably uncomfortable. At the time, it was not very well received, and now it is an exceptionally important piece of art history.

 

Contemporary art is more difficult to understand. Pieces may still make statements, but often, the pieces are selling the artist's ideas rather than technical skill. As a meticulous artist myself, I struggle with this. I highly value craftsmanship, and if I have an idea, statement, emotion, etc that I want to convey, I am going to do it to the best of my ability. 


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Posted November 16 2014 - 04:49 PM

Assuming you mean Frost's "The Road Not Taken," this is one of the most frequently misunderstood and misinterpreted poems. If you actually read the poem, in the fourth stanza, he looks back upon his decision with a sigh. This sigh is most likely one of regret. 

 

 

 

If you actually study art history, you will find that a lot of art is relevant to social movements. There are so many hidden political messages within impressionism and modernism. The creation of art is an effective way to convey a message without just blathering about it. Look at Gustave Courbet's piece "The Stonebreakers." Painted in 1845, it was revolutionary really. In a time when most art was created in the style of the salon portraying relaxing and pretty images, Courbet made a statement about the plight of the poor. The image is almost violent with the hammers, and it came shortly before the French revolution. Viewers found it to be remarkably uncomfortable. At the time, it was not very well received, and now it is an exceptionally important piece of art history.

 

Contemporary art is more difficult to understand. Pieces may still make statements, but often, the pieces are selling the artist's ideas rather than technical skill. As a meticulous artist myself, I struggle with this. I highly value craftsmanship, and if I have an idea, statement, emotion, etc that I want to convey, I am going to do it to the best of my ability. 

 

That makes sense. Other than the fact that the French Revolution was in 1789.

 

You're probably referring to the revolutions that occurred throughout central Europe in 1848.



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Posted November 16 2014 - 05:12 PM

That makes sense. Other than the fact that the French Revolution was in 1789.

 

You're probably referring to the revolutions that occurred throughout central Europe in 1848.

 

The one most referred to was from 1789-1799 I believe, but France had more than one revolution. The one I am referring to specifically is sometimes call the "February Revolution" or the French Revolution of 1848.


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Posted November 16 2014 - 05:19 PM

Well alright then. But if you're going to say "The French Revolution," then obviously people are going to think of the big one with Marie Antionette followed by all that Napoleon stuff.


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Posted November 16 2014 - 05:24 PM

It would seem so. That's why I didn't capitalize "the" or "revolution," but I should have been more specific.


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Posted November 16 2014 - 05:28 PM

It would seem so. That's why I didn't capitalize "the" or "revolution," but I should have been more specific.

 

You work in mysterious ways.



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Posted November 16 2014 - 05:32 PM

I'm a stickler for proper capitalization, so when I don't, it's a big deal to me. I forget that most people are not as obsessive as I am!


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Posted November 16 2014 - 05:33 PM

the thought of a world without art seems really barren to me.


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Posted November 16 2014 - 05:58 PM

I'm a stickler for proper capitalization, so when I don't, it's a big deal to me. I forget that most people are not as obsessive as I am!

 

I bet you're a stickler for a lot of things.






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