News About The Republican 114Th Congress

The midterm election a few days ago has given control of the US Senate to the Republican Party starting in January, so they will control both houses of Congress and should be able to be more productive than the last Congress. Of course, the last one was the least productive Congress in modern history. They did at least one big thing: They approved funding for a multi-million dollar plan that allows chimps to retire in luxury in Louisiana. Oh wait, they also approved a bill barring fishing restrictions near dams on the Cumberland River. Oh, how could I forget they also approved a grant to the Minuteman Missile Historical Site to create more parking.

So now that the Republicans have little opposition, they should be able to do big things. Here is where to post news of what they are up to.

 

First up -- Republicans have announced they will approve the Keystone pipeline and fight every carbon emission rule made by the EPA. It seems that they want global warming to continue full speed ahead.

 

Um global warming is not happening.

 

We need them to go and do it.

We're at a point where the only way to really turn shit around is for shit to go to complete shit, so that republicans and their magical thinking are thoroughly hung out to dry - we can't just stop some of the bad policy, so that people don't really feel what they're arguing for - we need to let them frack everywhere until everyone's tap water is on fire, smog everyone's air, burn everyone's rivers, repeal everyone's healthcare, lower everyone's wages, criminalize any benign action that they can think of, etc.

We can't stop it entirely, and if we do a little bit, they'll slowly ruin everything - we need to let them start ruining everything at once, so we can save most of it.

People have got to get pissed off and feel personally attacked (which they are being). We need a big enough voter turn out that we can throw out both the republicans and the fake liberals, and trip a paradigm shift.

 

All bills passed in the Republican majority House with the exception of the ones mentioned in the OP had to be given attention by the Democrat majority Senate and then signed by Obama in the 113th Congress.

The 114th Congress may have better luck getting bills passed by both houses of Congress, but if Obama is unwilling to work with the representatives of both the people and the States it will require some of the remaining Democrats in each house to override his vetoes.

I don't know about the Democrats, but in my opinion jobs and the economy should be the primary issues along with reducing Federal government size and spending to no more than what is needed. Good government doesn't have to be large government, but should be both efficient and cost effective.

 

Indie

But as explained to you many times the neoliberal/ free market ideas of the right are not about producing decent jobs that pay decent wages or about putting the economy on a solid and sustainable footing – criticisms you refuse to address.

[SIZE=12pt]We have been through this at length in the Small Government thread over 4 years ago and you still haven’t addressed the criticisms levelled at you back then. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]http://www.hipforums.com/forum/topic/339075-question-about-operation-of-small-government[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]It’s what is meant by ‘small’ or ‘big’ and such things seem to be missing the point what is needed is good governance and good government should be efficient and cost effective BUT above all it should be about helping people to have healthy, fulfilling and productive lives, the problem I see with right wing ideas ids that while they want efficiency they don’t really care about the majority of people and what effect their brand of ‘efficiency’ would have on them. [/SIZE]

 

Roo

The problem with the let it all go to shit idea is that the majority of use would end up having to live in shit. And it might be a long time been in shit.

The thing is that it might not be a matter of going to shit all at once so that people notice it and can see who is to blame.

I mean a lot of the shit we have to live with now goes back to stuff that happened thirty odd years ago and even recent history can be manipulated there are many in the UK who blame the last Labour government for the financial crash not the banks and flawed neoliberal p[policies so they end up voting for a Conservative Party that is on the side of the bankers and follows a crooked neoliberal path.

Some people are only just waking up to the fact that their children might have to grow up in a world with less social mobility, lesser wages, fewer social provisions and crumbling infrastructure – in other words be worse of than themselves. But many seem resigned to it rather than angry and often if they are angry they blame the immigrants, the EU the scroungers on the dole and all the other scapegoats the right wing media feeds them.

It would be great if we could have a glorious revolution and put all wrongs to rights but many times revolutions can be unpredictable and dangerous things, the idealism of the French revolution turned to terror and ended with Napoleon, the workers utopia promised by the Soviet revolution brought about starvation and Stalinism.

 

Oh sorry, I guess the correct term is "pause"

'Global warming has been on pause for 19 years': Study reveals Earth's temperature has remained almost CONSTANT since 1995

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2740788/Global-warming-pause-19-years-Data-reveals-Earth-s-temperature-remained-CONSTANT-1995.html#ixzz3IrDb94ES
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Oh nice try, but first of all, Dailymail? really?
This douch who did the "study" in the link you provided has no background in climate science.
"In fact, A January 2000 profile of McKitrick in his hometown newspaper, the Guelph Mercury, described his PhD thesis as doctoral thesis as being on the possibility of taxing carbon emissions as a way to reduce payroll taxes which he considered to be too high.
While most of McKitrick's work in the late 1990's concentrated on modelling pollution abatement costs and environmental taxes, from 2000 onwards he engaged in efforts to delay action on climate change.
His background is as an economist shows no apparent expertise in climate science that would equip him to hold an informed view on global warming.

Since October 2002, McKitrick has been a Senior Fellow at the Fraser Institute, an anti-regulation organization based in Vancouver, British Columbia[4] funded in part by the Atlas Economic Research Foundation.
He is also a signatory of the Cornwall Alliance for the Stewardship of Creation's "An Evangelical Declaration on Global Warming".[1]
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Ross_McKitrick


Fuck Mckitrick, Fuck Evangelicals and Fuck the Fraiser institute. :biker:

 

Here is some background

This is the headline attached to a report by Professor Ross Mckitrick an economist not a scientist, a fellow of the Fraser Institute.

The Fraser Institute is a right wing libertarian think tank an anti-regulation organisation promoting free market ideas – it has been funded by the likes of ExxonMobil, the right wing Donner foundation, the very right wing Scaife Foundation along with a bunch of other right wing foundations and surprise, surprise the notoriously right wing Koch brothers

His ideas have been disputed and it seems to me this is just another example of the wealth sponsored propaganda machine I’ve mentioned before where right wing lobbyists produce reports that are disputed which are then present by the right wing media as if they were undisputed ‘fact’.
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http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/2014/06/19/ross-mckitrick-fails-to-move-the-goalposts/

 

Now please stop if you wish to have a climate change debate please begin another thread I and i'm sure others would be happy to discuss it there

I've begun one here


http://www.hipforums.com/forum/topic/464210-climate-change-still-denied/

 

[SIZE=12pt]Meagain[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]It good to hear some sanity coming out of those chambers but as is clear here the madness of the flawed right wing ideas (such as tax cuts to the rich and deregulation) is clear to any that look and examine them - it’s just that many of the supporters of them refuse to look, examine or question them or the ideology they spring from or even wonder why they can’t even defend them from criticism. [/SIZE]

Try this website

http://www.kochexposed.org/

 

In my opinion, anyone who tries to tell us that black is white by ignoring 95% of the experts and fishing for a disreputable opinion without checking sources really deserves to be on my Ignore List.

 

Breaking news overnight: to the surprise of almost everyone, Obama has reached a deal with the Chinese to reduce carbon emissions in both countries. This is a huge deal that will benefit the entire planet, if it actually goes into effect.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/china-us-agree-to-limit-greenhouse-gases/2014/11/11/9c768504-69e6-11e4-9fb4-a622dae742a2_story.html?hpid=z1

Here's how the Republican leaders have reacted:

Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) said “this unrealistic plan, that the president would dump on his successor, would ensure higher utility rates and far fewer jobs.”

Other Republicans joined McConnell in criticizing the deal. Sen. James M. Inhofe (R-Okla.), who is widely expected to assume the chairmanship of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee in January, called the pledges by Obama and Xi “hollow and not believable,” and he suggested that the agreement was tilted in China’s interest. “The United States will be required to more steeply reduce our carbon emissions while China won’t have to reduce anything,” Inhofe said.
Around the globe, the pact was widely praised. Leaders of the European Union, which last month pledged a 40 percent reduction in emissions by 2030, said the new commitments by China and the United States provided an important boost to negotiations on a global climate treaty in late 2015.
“These two crucial countries have today announced important pathways towards a better and more secure future for humankind,” said Christiana Figueres, the European Union’s top official on climate change.

 

This is incredible news! I was so worried about the situation in China. Because of manufacturing shifts, what they do in the future will be more important than what the US does.

Is there any way the Republicans can block this? They will, if they can.

 

Try another source besides that conservative rag. Maybe like, NASA. Or climatologists.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/has-global-warming-paused/

"Rather, the oceans should be the primary barometer of global climate change.
And they are certainly changing. Sea levels are going up "like gangbusters," Willis said.
The recent Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change physical science draft report, released in late September, said it is a near certainty that rates of sea-level rise -- pushed up largely because warmer water expands -- have accelerated over the last two centuries.
The IPCC also reported it was very likely that rates of sea-level rise from 1993 to 2010 had almost doubled, from a 0.067-inch-per-year average rate for the 20th century to a 0.125-inch-per-year average rate.
To Willis and other scientists, this is a clear signal that global warming continues.
"Sea levels are still rising; the ice sheets are still melting; the oceans are still getting more acidic," Willis said. "All of that stuff is still going on just as it has, unabated.""

 

Have you actually read what's in either article or are you seriously using this infographic as some kind of 'proof'? I mean you're taking a picture from a website devoted to showing climate change is a hoax, and this is what you post from it; something that doesn't by itself really show anything. And your other source is a magazine owned by Rupert Murdoch.

PS: I don't think anyone here actually thinks TIME is some sort of expert on anything, other than trying to sell magazines. I don't think they actually have any scientists in their employ at all.