The Ebola Crisis.

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How Bad is the Risk from Ebola?

  1. Nothing to fear

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    20.0%
  2. Only those travelling to West Africa need worry

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  3. It seems to be well contained, so no worries

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  4. Only those without access to proper health care are at risk

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  5. It's spreading but it will be contained

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  6. It's getting riskier as more people get infected

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  7. Our healthcare system cannot cope so it will continue to spread

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  8. Many thousands are going to die before it's done

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  9. Hundreds of thousands will die

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  10. Millions of people will die

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  1. aesthetic

    aesthetic Z

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    You can read the rest of this New York Times article, here

    For those of you in the dark about Ebola, its virtually an unidentifiable fever that causes you to bleed out of your eyes, and your ears originating from Western Africa. Recently, reports of an Ebola outbreak have been on the news hotlines in Dallas Texas and LA California. The United States DoD has set up an emergency health screening in major airports across the United States to help detect Ebola and prevent the spreading of this danger.

    The United States has been making budget cuts as of recently, personally im happy this is happening now rather than later.

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    Not to use a scare tactic here but this is a quote from a infected disease specialist, currently training staff at the Providence St. Patrick Hospital in Missoula, Montana. This is his experience with the African strain of Ebola.
    For those of you interested in reading more about his experience you can find an interview with Dr.George Risi here.


    What do I do if I am traveling to an area where the outbreak is occurring?

    If you are traveling to an area where the Ebola outbreak is occurring, protect yourself by doing the following:
    • Wash your hands frequently or use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer.
    • Avoid contact with blood and body fluids of any person, particularly someone who is sick.
    • Do not handle items that may have come in contact with an infected person’s blood or body fluids.
    • Do not touch the body of someone who has died from Ebola.
    • Do not touch bats and nonhuman primates or their blood and fluids and do not touch or eat raw meat prepared from these animals.
    • Avoid hospitals in West Africa where Ebola patients are being treated. The U.S. Embassy or consulate is often able to provide advice on facilities.
    • Seek medical care immediately if you develop fever (temperature of 101.5oF/ 38.6oC) and any of the other following symptoms: headache, muscle pain, diarrhea, vomiting, stomach pain, or unexplained bruising or bleeding.
    • Limit your contact with other people until and when you go to the doctor. Do not travel anywhere else besides a healthcare facility.
    The CDC has posted this and other important questions and answers about Ebola on the website for Disease Control and Prevention, you can read it here.


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  2. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    Well I really don't plan on handling any dead bodies or blood or tissue from a dead person, I don't drink from pools or streams that could be infested, so I'm thinking I'm pretty darn safe here in Ca.



    Just what is your purpose and motivation behind this thread?????
    ebola is not a major threat in a developed country. The only reason it has spread in the manner it has is because moronic health care workers are pointlessly trying to save folks. If not caught and treated in the first couple of days, the mortality rate is over 85%. It is our intervention that has created the "epidemic". Ebola is HORRIBLE at moving from host to host and as such outbreaks have always been very short lived and very localized.

    The way ebola outbreaks have been handled prior to this current media frenzied world we now have is that the effected village and their water supply would be quarantined and then they just let the virus run it's course, whomever survived, good for them.

    people propagating scare bullshit are not helping anyone






    *the sky is falling, the sky is falling"
     
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  3. wyldwynd

    wyldwynd ~*~ Super Moderator

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    Soooo what about California ?
     
  4. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    It's a water crisis, not an Ebola crisis. But, to comment on your graph---there are those for whom government is always bad in anything
    they do and the faster programs that have been designed to help people in ACTUAL need are cut--the better off THEY will be.

    Cut food stamps ( get a job, motherfucker), send the means of production where the cost of labor is extremely cheap, ( get a job
    motherfucker), stand idly by while a few (1%) buy and sell our "politicians", (get a job, motherfucker), engage in endless war and never
    try peaceful means=like maybe-talking, (get a --you know), get a "supreme" court that is now stacked with suck-asses to the 1%, (get a job
    motherfucker), remove reasonable regulations that would/could control the unmitigated greed of those in control=corporations, (get a ----
    ------aww never mind. We don't need no stinkin' jobs. hell--in creating jobs, we'd just have a prosperous middle class. That'd be the shits
    now, wouldn't it. Oh yeah--get a job, motherfucker.
     
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  5. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    I'm promoting this thread to article and adding a poll (hopefully!)
     
  6. Meliai

    Meliai Banned

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    what does this have to do with California exactly?
     
  7. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Funny how it doesnt become a "Crisis" until white people start dying
     
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  8. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    For those of you in the dark about Ebola, like the OP;

    http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbreaks/2014-west-africa/qa.html

    from the CDC;

    Why were the ill Americans with Ebola brought to the U.S. for treatment? How is CDC protecting the American public?
    A U.S. citizen has the right to return to the United States. Although CDC can use several measures to prevent disease from being introduced in the United States, CDC must balance the public health risk to others with the rights of the individual. In this situation, the patients who came back to the United States for care were transported with appropriate infection control procedures in place to prevent the disease from being transmitted to others.
    Ebola poses no substantial risk to the U.S. general population. CDC recognizes that Ebola causes a lot of public worry and concern, but CDC’s mission is to protect the health of all Americans, including those who may become ill while overseas. Ebola patients can be transported and managed safely when appropriate precautions are used.
    Are there any cases of people contracting Ebola in the U.S.?
    CDC confirmed on September 30, 2014, the first travel-associated case of Ebola to be diagnosed in the United States(http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbreaks/2014-west-africa/united-states-imported-case.html). The person traveled from West Africa to Dallas, Texas, and later sought medical care at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital of Dallas after developing symptoms consistent with Ebola. The medical facility has isolated the patient. Based on the person’s travel history and symptoms, CDC recommended testing for Ebola.
    CDC recognizes that even a single case of Ebola diagnosed in the United States raises concerns. Knowing the possibility exists, medical and public health professionals across the country have been preparing to respond. CDC and public health officials in Texas are taking precautions to identify people who have had close personal contact with the ill person and health care professionals have been reminded to use meticulous infection control at all times.
    Is there a danger of Ebola spreading in the U.S.?
    Ebola is not spread through casual contact; therefore, the risk of an outbreak in the U.S. is very low. We know how to stop Ebola’s further spread: thorough case finding, isolation of ill people, contacting people exposed to the ill person, and further isolation of contacts if they develop symptoms. The U.S. public health and medical systems have had prior experience with sporadic cases of diseases such as Ebola. In the past decade, the United States had 5 imported cases of Viral Hemorrhagic Fever (VHF) diseases similar to Ebola (1 Marburg, 4 Lassa). None resulted in any transmission in the United States.
    Are people who were on the plane with this patient at risk?
    A person must have symptoms to spread Ebola to others. The ill person did not exhibit symptoms of Ebola during the flights from West Africa and CDC does not recommend that people on the same commercial airline flights undergo monitoring. The person reported developing symptoms five days after the return flight. CDC and public health officials in Texas are taking precautions to identify people who have had close personal contact with the ill person and health care professionals have been reminded to use meticulous infection control at all times.


    So I'm thinking we are pretty safe and there is no pandemic on the horizon.
    you can all go to bed and sleep soundly, Ebola isn't gonna get ya.
     
  9. Khalil2

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    Ebola is a deadly virus that we should seriously deal with.
     
  10. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Yes, the government should force everyone at gunpoint to take an untested vaccine that Monsanto helped develop. That would make me feel so much safer. Sticking a gun (aka thermometer) to people's heads (which is utterly useless and pointless) isn't enough invasion of our personal space, much less the preexisting TSA molestation people are forced to endure when they travel.

    It amazes me how the government wages their psyops on the public. They create a crisis, which is really a non-crisis and might even be an elaborate hoax, then downplay the crisis to make it look like they're trying to cover something up or are not doing enough. This just ratchets up the fear they're going to use to push a mandatory ebola vaccine on us. In a couple months people will be at the government's knees begging to be saved. I can see it playing out right now.

    The media likes to portray the image of the system being incompetent, instead of the system letting these things happen (or outright contriving them), to create panic and give itself more power as they come forward as our benevolent saviors.

    If even a shred of this is real, 90% of it is still blatant fearmongering.

    If this shit was as much of a threat as they're making it out to be, they would have completely put a ban on all flights coming out of Africa. I do believe the United Nations has the power to do this in the event of a blossoming global pandemic, yet there is no talk of this from anyone. Because they don't want that since it would go against their script that this was just somehow accidentally let into the country. It's fucking bullshit!
     
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  11. OddApple

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    bola is not a major threat in a developed country. The only reason it has spread in the manner it has is because moronic health care workers are pointlessly trying to save folks. If not caught and treated in the first couple of days, the mortality rate is over 85%. It is our intervention that has created the "epidemic".>>

    You are right. But most don't think it was such an accident.

    "Scratcho" couldn't be more wrong or a better programmed "death bot" - many, many "boobus americanus" are. They obeyed their programming so perfectly they are poster children of social engineering of non-hardies.

    Vaccine? If you don't have targeted antidotes guess you better run for Yo lives eh? The last vaccine round took out over 47,000 children by paralysis death? Sure! Go get one!

    I voted millions to die because when the "blood flu" develops...and it is airborne - don't be a turnip.
    But, the bad you hear now you can ignore. Much worse will soon replace it.
     
  12. Tyrsonswood

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    The poll left out the "I will be the last man alive" option...
     
  13. scratcho

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    Kiss it, Apple. You right wing f-------------
     
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  14. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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    Wait...so what you're saying is we need is social darwinism, that the weak, the disabled, the elderly, the poor must all die to make more room for the master race... is that it?

    Site a source for the stat or gtfo.
     
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  15. scratcho

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    Interesting vaccine analogy. The man that survived has given blood to 5 or 6 others with ebola and they are improving. So his blood has
    created anti-bodies to help cure the disease, apparently. Just like vaccines, the antibodies in his blood have either multiplied and are
    fighting the disease or they are creating the antibodies of the recipients to respond and fight off the disease. Probably both.
     
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  16. Meliai

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    vaccinations are really such a simple preventative science. Its a shame they've been demonized so much. Thanks a lot Jenny Mccarthy
     
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  17. scratcho

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    The principle is sound. I think the problem has been the shit they put in it. Recently a compound that has been in vaccines was taken out
    to preclude either potential or actual problems that "they" believe may have caused some damage to people. Kind of like the amalgam in fillings which has contained mercury. I reckon they still might contain it.
    The leading cause of polio was, for a time, live virus vaccine. Now dead virus is used. Live and learn, I guess. Unfortunately , the public takes the brunt of their mistakes.
     
  18. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    There was an outbreak of small pox in Iraq in the 1950s, and it was a bad form of it. It disfigured people in a bad way, and many died because of the fever. It took the Iraqi doctors just a few weeks to come up with a treatment. They inoculated the entire country with their new vaccine.
     
  19. IMjustfishin

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    its so sad that vaccines are so deamonized. if you look at the big picture vaccines are probably the greatest success stories of modern medicine.
     
  20. OddApple

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    << Wait...so what you're saying is we need is social darwinism, that
    the weak, the disabled, the elderly, the poor must all die to make
    more room for the master race... is that it?>>

    No, i have poor chsnces myself. But I am not thinking it matters what anybody thinks because "they" win fights before they even start and people are the opposite of what built the country? They are programmed to be passive, helpless and dependent because they aren't going to be building or fighting for anything. MonkeyBoy 101.
    If I thought by saying "Is not is not is not" over and over would change a bit of it, that would be what i would post.

    Not about worthwhile genetics either. About $$$. Master-Card race, which sort of thing is less than desirable.

    Medical.people argue vaccines too. People who make them don't take them?

    "Encowment" - vaccination, served the purpose at one time of making it possible to maintsin a working work.force. Now, that is not the goal.

    The principal is sound: what is in them must be vetified on site or you run risks of more than preservative. "What if" somebody wanted a million petri dish ovens with enzymes to make a better bug? Or, to keep a good one from.falling back? Or just solve their social problems in a week? Happens to other countries? The capability is there.

    The ebola czar is a radical depopulationist with no medical background. But "boobus americanus" thinks if "i feel bad" it means shit. I do. Don't mean shit.

    If it seemed flippant to say "bah! Wait'll next year" i do have to apologize. But that don't mean it ain't true and all that making sure you can stay home 3 months? That is very good advice really i think because, no, i barely know anything about society and politics but i know people and bio sciences pretty good....i do think it's about money, just that "they" will go as far as they can until G-d or good weather stops it somehow.

    But I amount to a popcorn fart in a typhoon. I can observe all i want, doesn't mean anything. The billionaire patent holders though, they mean business and also own armies. US.
     

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