Does Feminism Stand For Equality?

Is Feminism an equality movement, or is it something else???

 

Well I'd assume equality, yes. But from experience, equality is only lies.

 

Bit of a daft question. Feminism is not some abstract absolute floating outside of individuals. Feminism is a living breathing organic movement that can range from equality feminism (Equal rights and protections, pay and such, under law for women equal to men) all the way to the more radical feminists (Openly hostile to men, especially straight white men, interested in social engineering, thought police). You'll come across all sorts, most are somewhere in the middle.

 

^ I despise any notion of thought police.

 

No, it doesn't stand for equality. I see it as a useful tool for pitting men and women against each other, while getting women out of the home so the kids can be raised by the state. Feminism is far from an "organic" movement, in my opinion. If it was, it didn't remain so for long, because it's known that people like Gloria Steinem had ties to the government, which helped bankroll her and her magazine.

 

It's about equal rights until it comes to carrying the couch.

 

Well, I understand why feminists would not reply to this question. If your movement is already politically correct and many of your arguments aren't supported by reality what motivation would you have to debate your beliefs when you'll most likely lose and your beliefs are already accepted by society anyways????

For example, I'm not sure of the exact figure, but over 60 million euro was withdrawn from the Nordic Gender Reasearch Institute by tax payers when it was shown in an investigative report that the science did not support their theories.

Hence feminists love affair with anti-intellectualism in the form of censorship on most of their sites.

I don't know. I grew up in a democracy, and I believe in democratic principles like freedom of expression and speech, and I find it a little disconcerting that an entire philosophy is accepted and can't be challenged, especially when it influences public policies so much and those policies discriminate against so many people.

 

Me too. I don't conform to social pressure. Most of the time social pressure has the opposite effect on me.

 

Oh yeah, that reminds me. Meant to put this in your other thread.

 

Why does that dude have a piece of rope in his hand. I get the chair, but the rope??????

 

Yeah, funny thing, the second one is called egalitarianism.

Feminists (the first) go a pretty long way to push the idea that feminism is the second. Doesn't make it so. They can write it as many times as they want and make it sound like some populist movement for the betterment of all, and for equality, but their movement is still an academic and political one, led by bigoted self-serving individuals with no interest in equality.

 

how can you basically say a minority of radical feminists define feminism completely but in the mra thread you said the multitude of misogynist men hiding out and espousing their views on the internet in no way define the men's rights movement?


its exactly the same thing.

 

I am not basing my judgment of feminism on the "tumblr feminists", we all know they're vile attention seekers.

Feminism is not some unjudgable grassroots movement, as feminists pretend. Feminism is not what your friends and family think it is - it's gone to considerable lengths to pretend to be that, but it's not.

Feminism is an academic and political movement and lobby. Read a peer-reviewed feminist journal - every other article is dripping with gender-based hate and toxic assumptions, which are treated as unquestionable truth. Feminism has specific leaders, and they espouse dogmatic hate and distrust and paranoia and fear of men. I can start dropping scholarly citations of widely accepted feminist bullshit, if you'd like.... I literally have some in print - and ebsco probably has plenty too. Those who can be called feminist leaders are pretty roundly despicable people fighting against good gender relations. Those who can be called MRM leaders are just logical and fair. Since we're online and life is online nowadays, two who you might consider as examples are Anita Sarkeesian, and Karen Straughn (feministfrequency and girlwriteswhat, respectively, on youtube). Anita is one of the most prominent (and fraudulent) feminists, and Karen is the de facto leader of th MRM.

 

You're only half right. This illustration depicts feminism's "good cop" move they like to play, to convince society that it's the same thing as egalitarianism. The actions and words from the feminist movement that victimize women and vilify men come from the "bad cop" side.

Not even the Webster's Dictionary can defend the feminism's actions with a simple definition. If it was really about equality, then why is the "fem" prefix used in the word? And why are feminists so resistant to the word egalitarian?

 

I've noticed feminists seem to hate egalitareans too. Could it be that feminists hate egalitareans because egalitareans actually stand for equality, and feminism has gained a lot of traction and is politically correct because most people don't know any better and they just believe feminism means equality????

 

I have always cared about women's rights and used to be very distraught about the fact that racism is taken more seriously than sexism. But I analyzed it and asked myself: what exactly is sexism? You can't just call everything sexist. There has to be a concise definition. I also stopped complaining about sexism because I don't want to be viewed as a militant type that finds the sight of a naked woman offensive or who blathers about objectification. That's just playa hatin.

I'm not sure if feminists have done anything. Suffrage might have expanded to become universal on its own. Technology like the vacuum cleaner and the washer/dryer allowed women to go into the workforce according to Dinesh D'Souza. According to Thomas Sowell, women were already working and just went back in during the baby boom, then naturally went back out lol. And Aaron Russo (that conspiracy guy) said that Gloria Steinem was funded by the CIA to make the state the parent like someone else mentioned.

In the last wave, busting the double standard of sex, it was men who invented the pill and who convinced women to use it. You were the cool girlfriend if you were on the pill. Feminists actually retarded the progress of pill usage because girls didn't want to be seen as hairy, fat, militant women like the image of feminists. Mothers said only tramps use the pill. The boys had to talk the girls into it, assuring they would still respect them. At least that's what I heard.

So maybe feminism is useless.

There are also about 22 branches of feminism. That is embarassing. The civil rights establishment is a united front. There is a lot of bickering between radical anti-porn and sex-positives. It's like they prey on the weak. They're too chickenshit to face men so they bring each other down to make themselves feel good. Sex-positives particularly despise radicals and always say "we won". Pathetic.

Third world feminism seems more sound, but it's just Western women projecting onto the third world, like Rigoberta Menchu, a marxist lesbian separatist who claims to be the voice of Honduran women. Aren't Honduran women very traditional and far from being like that? It's like striking a pose.

I think that's enough.

 

And womanism is divisive.

 

I know I've said it before but...proud of you. You seem to have come a long way from the girl in the photo holding Naomi Klein's book. Dinesh D'Souza is a dork, though. lol

 

I couldn't say, I don't get into the feminism thing. I just like to play in threads. I'm a Humanitarian, if I ever have to be called any thing. My personal belief about feminism is, preserving the natural traits and qualities of being female. But I say that as a female whose femininity has taken many fatal hits, causing me to be somewhat masculine (and not happy about it). And I struggle to call myself a woman. For some reason, my mother's side of the family butcher their females so they're "butch" women. It was done to me .. chopping my hair like a boy (at a barbershop, not a beauty salon) and being taunted by old men "you're a boy!". It made me extremely awkward and uncomfortable. I was taught "handsome" women which anyone could agree, I think, that handsome women are not exactly feminine women.

I don't need to BE a man or be masculine to be treated like a human being with equal human rights. See? That's Humanitarianism. I'm a HUMAN BEING. I just happen to have ovaries, labia, a vagina, mammaries and nipples, with an unnaturally cultivated aversion to high heels and mini skirts.