Denial Of Spirit? Not Possible.

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by hickey, Sep 18, 2014.

  1. hickey

    hickey Member

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    To be a true spirit,
    one need not a faith,
    just trust in your nature
    for the spirit that ain't.

    Nature a spirit,
    void be its name,
    in affording to know,
    we suffer the same.

    The spirit of nature,
    it affords for itself,
    and suffers if not,
    in allowance to self.

    Spirit is nothing
    but nothing is nature
    in a void there is wanting,
    in a truth that is willing.

    Spirit a void,
    our nature to suffer,
    in sacrifice to make better
    the love of others.
    .
    Spirit is,
    as nature does,
    nothing in nature
    is void of all.

    Spirit a nature,
    in our nature our life,
    doing what needs doing,
    and for spirit doing that which often needs not.

    Bricks of excess
    builds palaces of truth,
    and in affording that to oneself,
    make allowance for it.

    The spirit of spelling
    in the nature of a bee,
    affording for origins,
    in the allowance to see.

    But in the spirit of nature,
    as in the spirit of us all,
    one's allowance for a spirit
    is in the nature of affording all.

    The spirit of algebra,
    in a nature of the numbers,
    but in affording for a single number,
    makes allowances for all equations.

    In the spirit of class
    it sits well with nature,
    In the spirit that shows class
    it lifts lower natures.

    A spirit for courage
    from a nature that fears,
    the nature in you
    is the spirit one hears.

    The spirit of truth
    affords the nature
    of its allowances.

    The spirit of love is a nature of reality.

    Spirit opens you up,
    learning its lesson
    that the natures teach.
    How can it not?
    Nature does not allow false spirit.

    True lessons are learned from the experiences of an ordeal.

    Spirit make allowances for those who make allowances.
    Nature only makes allowances to what it can afford.
    Nature is in the spirit of abhorring a vacuum.
    People are of the nature to abhor having a void in their lives.

    Cosmic space....
    is a room for growing consciousness.

    (ps..a person denying spirit simply lives in the spirit that does not afford for it. This by itself is an allowance of their nature and all natures are subjected to what its spirit makes allowances for.)

    Thank you for reading
    (...and I know the rhymes are lame, that was an accident)
     
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  2. Fairlight

    Fairlight Banned

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    I like the bit in your postscript...Deep.
     
  3. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    Fuck me! There is not enough

    DRUGS

    in this house, or

    ALCOHOL SPIRITS

    to alter the

    CHEMICAL STATE

    of my

    GREY MATTER

    to get through that

    DELUSIONAL

    fucking crap.
     
  4. Fairlight

    Fairlight Banned

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    Calm down man...The Hip Forums is for educational and entertainment purposes only.
     
  5. guerillabedlam

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    Hey... relaxxx stayed on topic.

     
  6. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    i'd love to parse the title if i could make any sense of it. the idea that anyone would be incapable of denying anything sounds rather a whole lot like someones kind of wishful thinking.

    people can and do deny anything. and likewise claim just about anything too.

    now there are things that are there, whether anyone claims or denies them or not.

    and that may be true for non-physical things as it is for physical ones.

    what people pretend to know ABOUT them, is still pretending just the same.
     
  7. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    What you wrote hickey .. it feels, to me, a bit like Never Is A Promise.

    http://youtu.be/BRrOAzMaez0


    What spirit is it that puts people to deny?
     
  8. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    There's no denying my spirit, as in the PHYSICAL chemical electrical state of my complex evolved BRAIN. Spirit as in the superstitious fantasy of an eternal soul, yeah, that is total delusional irrational bullshit...

    WTF, "spirit a void"? Sounds like some absolute nonsense Anaximenes would be going on about. Intrinsic properties of space and universal truths in numbers are not spirits! Holy shit, that is just fucking clueless!
     
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  9. IMjustfishin

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    yea i agree relaxxx

    it all depends on how you personally define a "spirit".

    if your definition of spirits are the same as the people on ghost hunters or shows like that, i actually do deny that idea. dont believe it, no proof for it, and i think its just kinda silly.

    if your definision is some kind of eternal soul, i think "maybe" but there is absolutely no evidence for this, so logically no reason to believe in it. if it makes you feel better to believe that theres somehting eternal inside of us, go for it, but dont make it sound like its a logical, or obvious because its more of an emotional reason.

    in my opinion, my idea of the human "soul" is rooted in our conciousness. what happens to it after we die? i dont know, could be it just ceases to exist because our brains stop working. i dont really think it travels anywhere for the same reason i already mentioned, theres no logical reason to believe this.
     
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  10. hickey

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    I liked the spirit of all responses. Most on the not affording side rather than making an allowance for which is fine. The message of spirit is really what 'spirit' is...it is the truth. But the truth by itself is what? Nothing. A better word is void (absolute nothing). In grammatical spirit 'spirit' is a word of impermanence, meaning it is what it stands for incorruptible. The use of spirit in writing is predicated upon an allowance of nature. Without a nature attached spirit becomes a void in meaning.
    Void in meaning does not imply the world is not full of sh*t.
     
  11. IMjustfishin

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    did you make up that poem yourself? either way its nice.
     
  12. tikoo

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    spirit can mean holistic intelligence , freely given and accepted , of intersection . as you live it
    so we read . thanks .
     
  13. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    Isn't it spirit that is at least partly involved in the threads a person chooses to interact in? Inspiration can lead someone to start a thread, spirit's impulse can lead someone to respond.
     
  14. Just_a_woman

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    I'm with the ones who don't believe in the mystic spirit/soul thing.

    I don't have a soul. I have (electro)chemical reactions going on in my brain. And that's good.

    But if you like to believe in stuff like spirits, soul, astrology... you won't be alone. So many people out there think they need this kind of thing...
     
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  15. Anaximenes

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    The spirit for it having a being or not is something against the existence of the mind. We have the knowledge from perception, and that kind of means for Knowing is for the existing Mind. We know probability for things unknown, and we know possibility for realities about these unknowns from which the possibility does or is realized some way for spirit. Mind has to exist; spirit is an optional advantage for inferring ideas towards how life is looked at in the mind. The trick is how to look at all creation and things before hand for the development of the mind interpreting the world with that probability. All creation and things is affirmed with respect to the negative and wholly Possible to the fulfilled, is a being or not.

    Spirit = HAS being or not itself; Possible for all possibilities = IS a being or not. Mind integrates spirit with the possible beings of the World. Thus the mind is prior to the spirit's determinations.
     
  16. ginalee14

    ginalee14 eternity

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    If you have no soul, how do you enjoy music? Or soul food? lol,

    mmm ribs

    [​IMG]
     
  17. Anaximenes

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    "Darkness at Noon" was enjoyed by the Commies. It is just moral to have a soul.
     
  18. hickey

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    We wash clothes, dishes and our bodies because we know the spirit of what will arise if we don't.
    People could stand for a decent brain washing now and then too. The dirt being beliefs unfounded yet stood upon as a conviction.
    Its guilty; the spirit of god can be found in the spirit of Daffy Duck, the nature of a raisin, the spirit of a falling leaf or in the spirit of nothing is real unless it gets arrested. Its guilty obviously because it embodies judgement (oblivion).
    The spirit of anything can be a nature of conceptual impossibilities...in art - but not in the way we can art in nature. The spirit of you shows in public. The nature we keep private.
    To afford spirit to something its nature can't make an allowance to is bad faith.
    Spirit is that principle that affords you not just a friend, but a friend to be forever remembered as a true one.
     
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  19. Anaximenes

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    Yeah, you're right; the spirit is for the worker putting the will into what he considers to be justice.
     
  20. themnax

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    why would it not be possible to deny spirit, when so many fanatics, just as strongly deny reality?

    i also don't thing the smell of bacteria has very much to do with spirit.
     

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