Have you ever tried making up your own god?

This is mainly for the agnostics and I suppose logically mainly the agnostic theists!

Have you ever - jokingly or seriously - tried making up your own god or took guesses outside of any existing religion as to what that god might be like?

I once joked that due to how non-specific agnostic theism is, God might be lazing about on a cloud when I get up there, smokin' weed and playing a brand new PS4 and just chillin'!

How about you guys?

 

That is a great thought about imagining your ideal god, hell, satan said you can be a "god"..but I do believe there is only one god, the creator of the universe, Jehovah

 

um... then you may be in the wrong section! lol

 

instead of making up a god, i have found it entifely sufficient to recognize everyone any thinks they know about any god, or 'the' god, is something another human told to another human, that eventually got written down and found its way into the common (western) 'gestalt'.

if a god, or the god, is a god, it owes nothing to what you, i or anyone else, thinks we know about it.

i have to admit i have arrived at some conclusions about several things a god would almost have to be, in order to be a god in any sense of the word at all. and the first of these is completely non-physical. not merely invisible, but completely without PHYSICAL form or substance, for several reasons, not the least of which would be to enable it to exist outside of time and space, which it would have to have been able to in order to have existed before time and space came into existence.

it could not therefor inhierently posses human, or any other physical form, even though, granted the unlimited power claimed for it, that capacity to mimmic absolutely any form. just not inhierently tied into any one of them, and not being physically any one place.

but i'm not convinced it would have to be infallible. and there seems to be just endless evidence, that whatever created or caused to be created, all this limitless diversity that exists, evidence of ad hoc and cericumstancial and really poorly planned design.

so rather then infallable, all powerful or all knowing, merely, and this would after all be quite sufficient, closer to all three, or at least the power part, then any other single thing that exists.

but we also can never know the actual nature of a god. it could be a machine. it could be a committee, it could be anything.

i also believe in a god who is NOT at war with anyone or any thing. all this stuff humans have come up with, calling evil and condeming everything that isn't part of some hierarchy it is at the top of, lording it over such a hierarchy, even the existence of such a hierarchy, these are all things humans would come up with for entirely human reasons.

and finally wanting to be worshiped. that is a weakness of the HUMAN ego. i don't believe a god would have those kinds of human weaknesses and still be a god. or any of the other human weaknesses attributed to god by christianity or any other religion.

i don't believe in a god who is alone in having a very real and at the same time, totally non-physical existence, and again i am skeptical about this hierarchy business and this conflict against everything non-hierarchical.

by the same token, i see no need or reason for any sort of an anti-god, or god of everything god isn't, to exist.

just lots of nonphysical beings and things, which might not have anything to do with any belief anyone has, well codified and organized anyway.

just lots of non-physical things existing which wish no particular harm to anyone or any thing, and possibly one that just happens to be bigger then the rest of them, but not this kind of maniacally tyrannical monarch/heirarch, christians and other 'western' religionists, have made their god out to be.

 

I was once an agnostic, after I left Christianity and Judaism. Personally I much preferred the Jewish Yahweh to the Christian Jehovah. At least Yahweh was brutally honest about it's nature. Personally I don't believe in a god though so I guess my answer to this would be none.

 

the god i believe in, is first, last and always, NOT at war, with anyone or any thing. it is not infallable. it does not lord it over some hierarchy, condemning to eternal pain everyone anyone and any thing, which does not reinforce, participate in, and submit to any such hierarchy. quite possibly, no such hierarchy exists.

it may be the most powerful thing in all of existence, or the most powerful single thing, but that doesn't mean its own nature, which we can never know, however hard we may try to pretend to, needs to be anything like a single awareness.

it gives great hugs, but may very well have chosen to have very little to do with anything in physical existence.

now everything i say about it, is just like anyone saying anything else about it.
whatever it is, it owes nothing to what any of us think.

and that's why i'm not a christian or an islamist or any of those beliefs, and i do believe all of them to be continuations of each other and not seperate, but all of that sequence, which creates this illusion believed by so many, of everything being part of some big hierarchy.

god or god like beings, i believe there are things bigger then ourselves, beyond ourselves, but this hierarchical idea, to me, this either does not exist, or at the very least, does not represent or encompass the most significant totality of existence.

my little friendy invisible spirit people have no wish to harm anybody. most things we don't know about are just as likely to not know about us.

like i say, i don't believe in a god who is involved in any kind of a war. there just isn't anything of a scale or a nature for it to be at war with.

there are just things we don't know, maybe nonphysical beings, and maybe they don't have any kind of a hierarchy at all.

there are consequences to our actions. not because some big friendly invisible thing exists. that has nothing to do with them. the consequences are because statistically they create the incentives that THEN, all of us together, result in the kind of existence, we as a result, OF THE STATISTICAL COMBINATION, we must then individually experiences.

so these are two completely separate things, the operation of a statistical kharma, if you will, and the possible existence of things unseen and quite possibly both very real and completely non-physical.

 

I guess fantasies are okay, as long as you know they're fantasies. Other than entertainment, tho, I'd wonder What's the point?

 

I've been agnostic/atheist my whole life. I have my own views on "god". It doesn't follow anything anybody has taught me. It's just my own thoughts and hopes. I guess I won't know how right or wrong I am until that day comes. Lets just say, when I am looking for help and guidance I don't "pray" to "god". I have my own ways of going about it and it's worked for me this long. I guess I'll stick with it.

 

one point would be that everything we think we know, is either a direct personal observation, or, something that was told to us, by another human being, whether in person or in a book or on line, carved in stone or what have, but invariably it comes by way of what is merely another human person, telling us their version of a story.

 

...read this:SPANDEX

 

what,.. wait,..you mean i,m not alone anymore? (your own god)

no really..i just believe in right and wrong, only you know what feels right.
ya know when your doing wrong, ya feel bad but sometimes ya do it anyway.

i think it,s just all what ya wanna believe, there are many different ways to get to the same place. but lots of ways to get there right?

 

But God did get me timed well to post my message about the pope, and then find you people here with this discussion.

 

That's all God is. I think there is precisely as many Gods as there are theists. By God I mean the superego manifestation psychotic episode God that only exists inside one's brain. The main reason I suppose I'm atheist is because my mind couldn't pull off a convincing delusion. I'm sure God is a very real experience for some people. I'm actually a little envious. When it's all said and done, are imaginary experiences or dreams any less significant than real world experiences? I try and tell myself they are.

 

I think I have been subconsciously trying to do something like this seriously once upon a time. Now I concluded that it is best (for me at least) to not be so busy defining what God might be exactly or what I like God to be. The most important is that we are here being able to think about it and I feel very grateful for it. Just because we can't come to an agreeance or that God doesn't show himself or his practices directly to us doesn't mean we should conform God's image to something we would all like Him to be or an even more customized version to each single person. To do this as an individual with your beliefs makes much sense, to do this with the image or actual being of God does not to me.

 

Like back at Kant: ha, ha, ha, ha. I don't believe in God. Why I should make one up?

 

So that he can believe in one after all?

 

I had a conversation with a guy the other day who kept spelling god in all caps. People were wondering why he kept capitalizing it, and I was like, "He's afraid god will be pissed if he doesn't." To which he replied, "Honor thy father." To which I replied, "Aren't I honoring him by not treating him like a psycho who cares how you spell his name?" He didn't understand that.

The real God just seems like kind of a psycho to me. Very uppity about seemingly little things. The fact that there is a generally accepted "real God" makes the whole conversation pretty worthless, too. Christians, Muslims, and Jews own God, let's face it.

 

I'm afraid of freedom too, even the freedom of the imagination now.

Anybody wonder about Kafka? We get sloppy and all that sort of thing, forget that we parked our cars downtown. GOD is the burden which made us thus irresponsible. Thus as well we get caught, and the authorities blame us personally for some infraction of public deceit. And all of this atheist guilt trip is because we can't arrest God. Woops, in his time it was instead to blame our lovers or something like that, of course, if we got caught.:love:

Moral: the cowards keep on blaming G-O-D, and can't be responsible at Love.

 

I don't think atheists really blame God so much as they just don't believe in God.