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#141 Pressed Rat

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Posted August 02 2015 - 01:00 PM

Let me chime in with how my brilliant mind reads the situation.

 

Almost all the factual information you hear on mainstream media is accurate enough that it cannot be obviously disproven. The trick is, to understand that what they do NOT cover is just as important as what they do cover. So if you have the time to check out all the available sources, Al Jazeera, RT, CSPAN, FOXnews, you can get a rough idea of what the world actually looks like.

 

It's also important to recognize areas that are completely immune to transparency, such as the Federal Reserve. It's a privately owned institution, held by stockholders. We all know it's privately owned by now, but no one is capable of deciphering the actual owners. There's a small group of people that control the currency creation of the United States, and no one is allowed to know who they are. That's pretty fucked up, and deserves more attention.

 

1) There is lots that the media reports that can be disproven based on a knowledge of past events.  The media gives the truth, but puts a spin on it to confuse people while taking one of two sides which have marketed to them via left vs. right political discourse.  Usually both sides will have bits and pieces of the truth scattered about, but will be mixed with a fair amount of disinformation as well so that most people will never have a full understanding of what's going on and can be steered/manipulated according to their political views.

 

2) We basically know who controls the Fed, and all you have to do is look at the names that were involved in its creation.  It's the names we have all heard before (Rothschild, Rockefeller, Morgan, etc.)  Their lapdog media simply never mentions them in relation to the Fed (and all the other central banks of the world), but we still know who controls it, because we know who set it up back in 1913.  So who controls the Fed is no secret at all.  It's simply not been publicized because they need people to believe its a government institution instead of the private takeover corporation that it is.


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#142 unfocusedanakin

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Posted August 03 2015 - 01:13 PM

Of course I do not trust the media.  They have an agenda to divide and conquer the general public.  And because most if not all major sources of news in the USA are controlled by a wealthy elite do you really think they would allow something that makes them look bad to be discussed?  A few decades ago I believe journalistic integrity was in tact.  A topic no matter how bad it made someone look could be discussed.  But now any journalist who steps out of bounds will soon find themselves without a job and discredited.


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Posted August 09 2015 - 06:59 AM

I trust national public radio.



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Posted August 09 2015 - 07:13 AM

I think the media is a good thing. I like the news, for the most part. That said, I don't have cable turned on so I don't watch the news very much. 


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Posted August 11 2015 - 07:40 AM

I see it slightly different if i may,

what mainstream media tells you, is approved by the government ( U.S.A. )  and that is garanteed...It doesn't matter which country you listen to your news from, but it's all about pushing for control of population in a certain direction in a grand scheme of things. Ask any reporter in a scientific field ( or others) and if honest enough, he'll tell you ...It's been in public domain for a long time now that scientists can't work to their full potentials because of restrictions from governments/bankers.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Federal Reserve( names of bankers) is a well known fact as, who started it, who owns it and who controls this world. They funded many wars, on both sides, just to create power,money,discord.... control. I highly suggest someone to look deep into that subject. Many powerful people (presidents,prime ministers,kings,,etc) have commited murders and nothing is done about it.

 

 

  Anyone ever heard of Bush jr? Sr? Bill Clinton's shady past?Putin? Emperors? Kings/Queens? and then comes..... BANKERS ! ... just a thought

 

 

Yes, let's place absolute faith in blogs and sites with unknown authors with unknown credentials simply because they're not the mainstream media.

 

I don't think that the media is controlled by the government (I really do believe that the government still values western liberal democracy while still doing unethical, hypocritical things in the name of protecting it) but it is definitely partisan and becoming moreso... which is what will always happen in an individualistic capitalist society. It's not about giving people objective views, it's about making them feel like they're right about what they believe-- the news is a product.

 

The mainstream media coasts on brand image while the newcomers gravitate towards the third positions (American fascism, libertarianism, socialism) and niche markets... so I tend to trust the mainstream sources more than the cowboy outfits on youtube and Alex Jones-type stuff (which is poison), but at the same time it's impossible to ever really know what's going on with most issues that have a political bent. 



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Posted August 11 2015 - 07:53 AM

ALL OF THE MEDIA fooled the whole world into following Shrub into the invasion of Iraq. The FALSE PROPHET is supposed to fool the world into following the antichrist into Armageddon. Trump wants to invade Iraq and Iran and take their oil fields. Dun tun tun dun!



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Posted August 12 2015 - 06:46 PM

Ever heard of his dealings with drugs while a governor?

 

 

just checked the Wilkepedia pages for The Mena intermountain Airport,its on there.



#148 Pressed Rat

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Posted August 12 2015 - 07:18 PM

Why would anyone with a functioning brain blindly trust anyone or anything, much less something as agenda driven as corporate media?? The only reason I can think of is that such people have handed their brains over to someone else to do their thinking for them. Sad, but such is the nature of psychological warfare.

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Posted August 12 2015 - 09:29 PM

The only media I get is from the Internet...mainstream media is all about agendas. Lies, lies, lies
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Posted August 12 2015 - 09:39 PM

Why would anyone with a functioning brain blindly trust anyone or anything

Yet I am supposed to trust you.  


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Posted August 12 2015 - 11:39 PM

Yet I am supposed to trust you.


Um, no. Did I ask you to trust me? People need only trust themselves and their own intuitions.
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#152 Pressed Rat

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Posted August 12 2015 - 11:43 PM

The only media I get is from the Internet...mainstream media is all about agendas. Lies, lies, lies


There is plenty of lies and disinformation on the internet as well. But unlike the television, truth can be found online using some discernment if you look hard enough. That's why the government wants to enact legislation to more easily control the flow of information online.

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#153 fraggle_rock

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Posted August 13 2015 - 04:31 PM

Um, no. Did I ask you to trust me? People need only trust themselves and their own intuitions.

 

What a novel idea. 

 

That way, everyone can ignore anything that doesn't click with their own preconceived notions and tribal allegiances.

 

They can fear or ridicule what they don't understand, and make up their own stories to support their politics. 

 

Anyone who doesn't agree with me is a blind deluded slave!


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#154 Pressed Rat

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Posted August 13 2015 - 04:32 PM

What a novel idea. 

 

That way, everyone can ignore anything that doesn't click with their own preconceived notions and tribal allegiances and fear or ridicule what they don't understand. 

 

Continue believing anything "experts" tell you to think without ever using your own brain.  Nobody is stopping you.


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Posted August 13 2015 - 04:38 PM

Continue believing anything "experts" tell you to think without ever using your own brain.  Nobody is stopping you.

 

I guess I'm pretty stupid for listening to people who actually know what they're talking about instead of making shit up because I like the way it makes me feel. 

So if you're not relying on journalists to let you know what's going on in the world, how exactly are you getting your information?



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Posted August 13 2015 - 04:42 PM

I guess I'm pretty stupid for listening to people who actually know what they're talking about instead of making shit up because I like the way it makes me feel. 

So if you're not relying on journalists to let you know what's going on in the world, how exactly are you getting your information?

 

I read books, study history, then use the knowledge of what I've learned to come to my own conclusion about things.  This is different than letting others do your thinking for you and believing them simply because they hold some prestigious title.  This is why some people regurgitate what they hear on the 6 o'clock news, while some prefer to dig a bit deeper.  "Relying" on anyone to think for you is dangerous.

 

But nobody is telling you what to do or how to think, so just fuck off already.  I never asked you to believe what I do.


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Posted August 13 2015 - 04:45 PM

Hmmmm.... someone touched a nerve, PR?


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Posted August 13 2015 - 05:07 PM

I read books, study history, then use the knowledge of what I've learned to come to my own conclusion about things.  This is different than letting others do your thinking for you and believing them simply because they hold some prestigious title.  This is why some people regurgitate what they hear on the 6 o'clock news, while some prefer to dig a bit deeper.  "Relying" on anyone to think for you is dangerous.

 

But nobody is telling you what to do or how to think, so just fuck off already.  I never asked you to believe what I do.

 

 

I'm not even going to ask what you mean by 'reading books and studying history', because I'm pretty sure I know what type of books they are and what 'studying history' involves in your mind. 

 

As far as I can tell, you just keep repeating over and over that the government is evil and trying to deceive everyone, the corporations are evil and trying to deceive everyone, and everyone except you is stupid and deceived by the evil and doomed to fall prey to it. Almost everything is either a hoax, a distraction or part of a plot to take over the world.

 

Do you seriously believe that it is in any way necessary for the people in power to get even more power than they already have?  That the global elites have an active interest in potentially destabilizing the establishment that has served them so well? That anyone in their right mind would want to rile up the right-wing loonies who already piss themselves with rage when someone suggests you should be have to be sane to own a gun or for whom all taxation is communism?   

 

Like all conspiracy theorists, you're sure that the elites/NWOers/illuminati are inconceivably brilliant and every single stage of their ancient, insidious plan has, remarkably, unfolded exactly as they've intended... and we are now on the verge of checkmate. Of course, the only people brilliant enough to realize what's occurring are you and the people who believe what you do. 

 

I don't expect you to ever accept anything other than this goofy conspiracy narrative... especially not because of anything I say, but at least recognize that you're not intellectually superior to anyone simply because you choose that narrative over another. 


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Posted August 23 2015 - 02:48 PM

This thread speaks quite loudly!!!!!

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Posted September 26 2015 - 01:22 PM

... So if you're not relying on journalists to let you know what's going on in the world, how exactly are you getting your information?

Some years back, maybe 'round 2006, I happened to catch, quite by channel surfing, an interview on CSPAN's Book Notes betw. a retired U.S. Army colonel & another Army colonel, Col. Janis Karpinski, who had been the commander of a reserve military police brigade in Iraq, some of which's members were involved in the sordid Abu Ghraib prison scandal.

 

These were not journalists but presumably experts in their field (U.S. armed forces). It was clear that both colonels agreed that Col. Karpinski had been the selected scapegoat for the prison disaster. But otherwise the interview was my introduction to the Iraq war as the playground for power struggles betw. military commanders & betw. them & their civilian overlords. Suffice it to say I soon followed the commentaries of both colonels elsewhere (I read Col. Karpinski's book), which led to my acquiring a view of that war & all later U.S. military adventures quite divergent from what was being & still is reported on the major news outlets, including the Internet outlets.

 

Coincidently, I've worked for a DoD office for more than a decade, & what heard from soldiers & Marines about their multiple tours in Iraq & Afghanistan was pretty much in line w/ what those colonels were talking about.






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