Phenibut

Discussion in 'Other Drugs' started by guerillabedlam, May 13, 2013.

  1. guerillabedlam

    guerillabedlam _|=|-|=|_

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    I am curious if anyone has experience with phenibut....

    I've read some trip reports on Erowid about it which were mostly positive, but suggested that there is a tremendous amount of variation in dosing. The report that stuck out to me was one that said its a quality substitute for GHB.
     
  2. Victamon

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    Nootropics me wants to try.
     
  3. Glasshopper

    Glasshopper Struggling for sanity

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    I have taken Phenibut and it REALLY works to reduce stress BUT tolerance to it builds extremely quickly.

    This is probably why the dosage reports vary so much.

    In my case 3 consecutive doses after that there was no effect.
    I would have to wait about 2 weeks to recover any effect against stress at all.
     
  4. guerillabedlam

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    Is there much of a psychoactive affect?

    ...and wow I read about tolerance but didn't realize it was that rapid.
     
  5. Blue Meets Green

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    Stick with Kava - Valerian tea. Maybe some Hash with it for the extreme issues
    :)
     
  6. Glasshopper

    Glasshopper Struggling for sanity

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    The nootroptic effect is minimal at best for me but the stress relieving effect was quite pronounced.
    IMO it is best kept for the occasional relief of extreme stress.
     
  7. Kundalini 314

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    Ive been doing phenibut gabavand 5-htp mix together for two years now. It kind of gets u high but moreso is healthy for u and keeps one on their toes physically and mentaly. It is an extreme mood booster andvsexual enhancer and thermogenics. Ive had muchbfun withbphenibut cuz it makes music sound better. Ask me questions if u wish. Phenibut greatly helps with my social anxiety disorder. Itbis used in russiavas medicine and was invented by russian astronauts. It iphas very very much to offer. Ideally u want to do itbfourvdays straight and then 3 days off. The first off day cycle u will still be on it lol. It has a 10 hour half life, so if taken b4 bed u willnfeel refreshed in the morning and will be even more pleased when the morning dose hits u immediately. If u are notbtake it b4 or are coming offba cycle then it may take 4 hours b4 itvcrosses the blood brain barriervand u feelbeffects. Once my brain barrier is open, ideally i like to take doses every hour but real real small ones cuz for me it hits u instantly that way. Makes for very pleasant dreams at night and quite thevdaydream medicine too. Phenibut has done so very much for me that its not even funny
     
  8. AceK

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    i didn't like it. take too much and you will have a very long hangover, i didn't feel good for like a week after taking 7 grams.

    i would suggest never taking more than 2 grams if you do
     
  9. expanse

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    I've read that the tolerance builds fast, and rebound anxiety is horrible if you take it too many days in a row.

    If I have a meeting to go to at work, I take .125 klonapin (I break a .5 in quarters and put it under my tongue) and 150mg of phenibut and it works great. I'm sensitive to a lot of medicines though.

    I never take phenibut more than 2 days in a row.

    The normal dose of phenibut is 300 mg, but 150 does fine for me. You won't feel effects for 2 or 3 hours. I usually feel effects for at least 8 hours. I've taken 300 mg before and felt relaxed the next day.

    I used to take .5 klonapin as needed, but I have bad reactions and memory loss with that.

    I've heard a lot of horror stories about the fast and massive down regulation with phenibut, so be careful with it if you try it. If you've had any problems with addiction in the past, it might not be the thing for you.
     
  10. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

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    7 grams is more then 3 times the amount your supposed to take, so i'm not suprised you felt aweful for a week. Usually the sweet spot is somewhere between 1-2 grams.
     
  11. AceK

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    i was trying to get fucked up on it i guess, which is the wrong thing to do with phenibut.
     
  12. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

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    yea it you take to much the hang over symptoms can be waayy worse then alcohol. And for anybody who is reading this and wants to do phenibut, if youre going to combine it with alcohol, limit yourself to 1 or 2 dinks because phenibut amplifies alcohol greatly.

    The only bad experience i had with phenibut was taking it two days in a row, about 2 grams each time. i did this a few times but only once i felt kinda nauseous and weird.
     
  13. AceK

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    i wouldn't wish it on anyone, real sick for like 3 days and then for the rest of the week felt like crazy paranoid and nervous. felt like i was never gonna feel normal again.
     
  14. guerillabedlam

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    Is the amplification a good synergy or is it a quick route to blackout?
     
  15. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

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    It CAN be a good synergy, but theres a very fine line between awesome time and blacking out horrible fucking next day hang over. Basically 1 drink while under a moderate amount of phenibut is equal to 2-3 drinks while sober. For some people it combines well and others it doesnt. If youre going to combine the two I strongly suggest starting off with 1 beer or shot and waiting at least an hour before having another drink.
     
  16. guerillabedlam

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    I dosed phenibut for the first time tonight. I enjoy it quite a bit, I took a gram and then drank a redbull an hour in.

    I was pleasantly surprised by the onset, I was expecting a gradual climb to peak but I felt it come on fairly 'strong' relative to what the effects have been over the past 3 hours.

    It's definitely not on the psychoactive level of GHB but I got an impression of it being slightly like weed, without the stoning effect or as strong a shift in consciousness. I definitely do not feel out of it like the few times I've tried Xanax, which I like.

    I could see how this might be useful for anxiety, particularly social anxiety. I'm about 4 hours in and just took a shot of liquor. That will be my only shot of the night. Good stuff!
     
  17. AceK

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    phenibut is a weird chemical cuz it tastes really sour. it's good in small doses but seriously don't take too much cuz it's bad and the bad effects from taking too much take a long time to go away. i'm pretty sure you can take up to 2.5 grams and be fine but any more than that is probably asking for trouble. thing is when i took a lot the first time i made it up to like 4.5 grams and it did feel really good, almost like MDMA sort of (i don't know if everyone gets that effect from high doses) and i could tell that i was really fucked up but the next day i was okay and didn't get a hangover (at least nothing that would prevent me from doing that dose again), so i did that dose again and was okay and then waited like a day or two where i tried to not take any then next time i dosed i dosed the 4 grams right away instead of building up to it over several hours like i did the first times, then when that kicked in i took a little more (not 4 grams more, maybe .5-1 gram each redose, can't remember).

    the thing is that when it "kicks in" it doesn't kick in fully all at once, it takes 3 or 4 hours or so for it to completely kick in, so even if i felt it after an hour that just means that i'm feeling a little bit of it, and if i take more then, i'll feel an increase in effects after a certain amount of time but really was just feeling the first dose kick in further and would have still felt that even if i hadn't taken anymore cuz it would have kicked in more on it's own anyway. i probably dosed all the way up to seven grams in like 4 hours, maybe a little more and then decided that i didn't wanna take any more than that. but see, at that point, that's just enough time for the original dose to get to full effects so if you're judging it like that you can get in trouble because in 4 more hours the additional doses are gonna kick in.
     
  18. guerillabedlam

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    I don't even have 4 grams at the moment, so no worries about getting carried away with it. The shot of alcohol did boost the dose 4 hours in but didn't necessarily add much to the experience. I guess I had slight, slight impressions of Closed Eye Visuals as I laid down.

    I still feel it this morning, I could see if it were a hangover of sorts it could be pretty nasty but I'm feeling content right now.

    I may try a 3-4 gram titrated dose sometime, when I don't have any responsibilities to attend to the following day(s). I am intrigued to see the psychoactive effects manifest, particularly if it has some similarities to MDMA.

    I found phenibut peaked fairly quickly after onset, within a half hour of initial alerts (~ 2 hours) I was experiencing peak effects, One of my pleasant surprises of the experience. I took the shot of liquor because I felt the phenibut had plateau'd.
     
  19. AceK

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    i wouldn't try to increase past 4 grams even if you handle 4 grams fine. you might could play with a couple hundred milligrams past 4 grams but if u get to 5 grams you've probably gone too far.

    I've read some reports of peopke doing 5 grams and were okay and liked it but most of the negative horror stories seem to start at about that dosage too.

    definitely don't do a big dose more than twice in a row.

    reading about this chem I thought there might be some similarity to GHB ... it maybe could be liek "diet G" but it only starts to feel that way when u take big doses. also I'd much much much rather take too much G than to take too much phenibut.

    it is nothing like benzos IMO, other than having sedative/anxiolytics effects. it can have a sort of mild energizing effect as well as being calming at the same time
     
  20. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

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    Do you still have that second dose or have you taken it? glad you enjoyed it the first time :)
     

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