What has happened to communes?~

When I started reading about communes nowadays, I was like:

Wait what?!~ What happened to those places in the 60's I heard all about on the History channel places where people came and went like the wind, where there was no ban on the nudity, open-sex, loving whoever you wanted, and expressing yourself even if it meant dancing naked in a tutu like a ballerina and then doing the mumba?~ A place where people helped out each other by bringing things or doing things or making things instead of using money?~

I think it's great establishing a society based upon common understanding and bringing each other's efforts together to help a community run, but if you lost all the reasons you were doing it for what's the point?~

 

I wonder the same thing. Those places back then sound so beautiful, but i'm sure they had there challenges.

 

communes were in the experimental stage in the 60s/70s.. sometimes called intentional communities they're still around..
http://directory.ic.org/records/communes.php

 

Thank you, but there are so many is there a way to know which ones are still like the 60's-70's ones?~

 

Many people want to build a commune, but what's the point if they adopt the same 'values' and prejudices as the rest of back-ward Human society?~

 

Something like 99% of those communes only lasted a couple of years, if that. They couldn't pay the bills, they couldn't get along with each other. They couldn't live on idealism.

So far I've found about 10 communes from the 60s that are still around. I live in one. Some of them have changed a lot in order to make it.

Also, the world changed too.

 

Thanks, man what commune you live on?~

Oakland, man that's SO close to where I am..well kinda far but closer than Kentucky!~ ^_^

I'm looking for places where I can randomly be in my natural state or 'nude', where everyone shares everything even each other if they choose or wish, I want to expierence that the easy cool groovey loving vibe I've always heard about and always wanted to expierence!~ ^_^

 

Go and read the last couple of pages of this thread, "84 acre commune looking for people".

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=396432&f=57

What you'll see is incoherent ravings of people blaming each other because things worked out badly at this commune. You don't need to have any sense of any of them as right or wrong (it's probably impossible to figure out anyway) to see that they never had a direction or any urge to work usefully. And that's the problem with communes--if you go there as an escape from the regimented world, you're not the most likely person to get down to doing what it takes to keep the community functioning. That would mean maintaining buildings, growing food, producing something that can be traded for things the group can't make or grow, and just preparing food for everyone (and of course there's more). Communes either find a system to do those things, or they fail. I question whether it can happen on the basis of "I feel like participating in this task now, but maybe tomorrow I won't". Get a few people goofing off, and then the ones who might have been willing to work feel exploited and they stop working too, and then what?

A couple of days ago I pointed out Twin Oaks' website to you, and you said it seemed too disciplined, and I can understand your feelings there. But they've been running for a long time and they'd probably say they need that much of a system to survive, and that it's designed to give people as much freedom as possible while keeping the place functional. Freedom's great, but work has to be done.

 

You're 22. Let me save you years of anguish. Humans, as a species, aren't ready for the type of environment you desire. There may be a very small percentage of people out there that could handle the task of participating in a sustainable community without rules but there are VERY few of them, they're all spread out everywhere, and most likely, they've decided to give up on the community thing and do their own thing.

I've been searching for a place to be for years and haven't even found one place that comes close to true freedom. Even if I buy my own property and go full hermit, I'm still going to have property taxes, nosy neighbors, code enforcement officers, the IRS, and all sorts of other crap to deal with.

I've decided, at age 35 that this world just isn't the right place for someone like me. I've got some responsibilities to take care of like being around for my mother and my dogs and after that, I'm going to either join a tribe deep in the amazon and learn their ways, including ritual suicide, or walk into the forest and see how long I can survive with nature.

I know it sounds macabre but it's not. I've had a few near death experiences and some deep psychedelic experiences that have allowed me to visit the "other side" or the next plane of existence and it's beyond beautiful. Being a soul that craves freedom on this planet is a recipe for frustration and pain.

My advice to you is to learn skills in sustainability. Travel as much as possible, on foot if necessary. Check out wwoofing. Experience everything you can while helping others in the process. Explore the other side until you're comfortable with the technicalities of the transition. Don't hold on to this life like it's the only thing you have and be ready to let it go before this jacked up physical existence ruins your ability to feel love and positivity.

Best of luck and have fun! :sunny:

 

I'd want to have years of joy, too.

I don't think that part about suicide sounds like fun at all.

 

I live at the Lafayette Morehouse. I used to live in the Oakland Morehouse.

 

You probably wouldn't be scared of death if you'd tried it a few times. The other side is beautiful. Fear of death is unnatural.

 

I have abouslutly no problem working back-breaking hard work to keep the place running, whenever something I can help with can be done I'll help out!~ ^_^ But I'm very flexible and I like a variety of tasks I can do, I don't like to be dictated what I can and will do every day.~

It's the invasive of your personal freedoms that I reject the majority of Human society because of, I don't like to wear anything most of the time, open-sex is beautiful to me, I refuse to cut of shave my hair anywhere on my body that's my personal body no one but me has a say in that, and I can't stand cages, leashes, or chain-choking collars on anything against it's will!~

Example: I've always wanted to live on a farm, the thought of back-breaking old-fashioned before dawn til dusk working always appealed to me!~ I came pretty close to that kind of work when I helped my family build their new house from the dirt up!~ And I loved every second of it, everyday I would collapse onto a bed from exhausted from a whole's day of work!~ ^_^

Love,

~Bliss

 

That's exactly my plan, I'm not going to stay in the same place the rest of my life HAHAHAHAHA!~ ^_^ I will stay and help out in wherever I'm needed, but I'm a free spirit of the wind, I have a deep need to explore everything to see everything to sail the seas to travel lands to fly the skies, there are no limits, I plan on getting all the skills I want, but I need to start somewhere, learn to live without money, learn to survive anywhere, learn how to build a boat made out of all wood, and learn how to sail and then learn how to adapt it to land without a motor!~ ^_^ Those are my goals, those are my dreams, I will make them happen, I will sail this world land and sea, yo ho yo ho a sailor's life for me!~ ^_^

 

There is something that makes me wonder on that: it seems that communes symbol is a wheel with lines shaped very much like a up-side down pentagram, such a thing is said to bring about negative energies and sorry but if it there is something behind it like that then I don't want to be involved with negative energies.~

Unless it's just a star.~

 

The More Sign is a symbol of perfection.

If you wear one around your neck it means that you have had the experience of knowing undeniably that you are perfect. [we believe perfection includes the potential for change]

The design was influenced by the shape of the famous peace sign. If you look at a More Sign with an open & flexible mind, you can find all the letters of the alphabet in it. <smile>

FWIW one of the things we say is "fun is the goal, and love is the way."

 

I am so sorry man, thank you reminding me of that!~ ^_^ I love you man!~

Groovey, man and you're in California to!~ ^_^ Sweet!~

How to do you feel about random nakedness and sex everywhere?~

 

Sorry AlchemistGeorge, but your commune suggestions don't seem to be what I'm looking for.~

I'm looking for a commune where any one who is willing to help with an open-mind and a kind-heart is welcome, just come in and start helping as easy as that.~

Where the commune is self-sustained, where money is not needed.~

Where clothing is always optional.~

Where any thing can happen as long as every one is respected and where children are welcome.~

Oh and in California as it would be easier to get to as my transportation methods seem to be subjective to change.~

Although I wouldn't mind a list of Communes outside of California to visit in the future as I might still be a nomad who would know where I would be welcome.~