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#1 Robofish

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Posted October 26 2012 - 11:37 PM

I'm asking this question because I'm actually curious. I'm not trying to start a debate. Personally I believe astrology is just pseudoscience, but I'm interested to hear what some true believers say. Sorry if this has been asked before. Honestly I only looked at the first page............

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Posted October 26 2012 - 11:38 PM

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Posted October 27 2012 - 06:50 PM

Not sure. Used to look at my horoscope when we used to get newspapers, but it always seemed pretty generalized. Tried to get into it but it started sounding like the Wholly Babble, you know, like it could be made to fit whatever a person wanted it to say, so I quit looking into it. Maybe it works, don't really know. :confused:

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Posted October 27 2012 - 06:58 PM

i think it depends more on the sensitivity of the astrologer and their interpretation, although i do think that the placement of various huge bodies in space must have some kind of effect on all things in their relative vicinity... i find the i-ching more reliably accurate... spot on infact... spookily spot on infact... have you ever tried the i-ching?
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Posted October 27 2012 - 07:01 PM

no, never heard of I Ching, I will look it up.

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Posted October 27 2012 - 07:04 PM

of course. everyone i've ever met who has a birthday close to mine is exactly like me. and we all really only get along with people with the exact same birthdays too.

i mean really, what proven fact are you going to dispute next, the tooth fairy?

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Posted October 27 2012 - 07:16 PM

sorry to ruin your october, but the tooth fairy was yer mum/dad/carer :p
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Posted October 27 2012 - 07:24 PM

i know my dad was the tooth fairy, he told me all about it. that's why he used to go out every night. all his money disappeared because he was giving it out to kids, and he always came home smelling like perfume because that was part of the tooth fairy uniform.

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Posted October 27 2012 - 07:33 PM

I figure it's just as accurate as any other form of divination...:rolleyes:

Chinese astrology is fun...I'm a Metal Rat. :cool:

Much cooler than 'Virgo' :p

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Posted October 27 2012 - 08:17 PM

Yeah, In China I'm a fire-snake instead of a fish. :-D


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Posted October 27 2012 - 08:45 PM

^^^! 2013 will be the year of the snake...good fortune for you!

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Posted October 27 2012 - 09:10 PM

In my opinion, astrology is accurate when you really get super serious, looking up all about your chart...not just your sun sign. You need to be aware of your rising sign and then you need to look at ALL the houses, all your aspects, and sometimes the degrees that the houses are on and the degrees of the planets make a difference. Just for one example...my sun is unaspected, which in itself "means something". There are literally numerous things to be looked at and considered when evaluating a chart.

All that being said, if you want to spend a lot of time studying it, astrology can be strangely precise and quite interesting. (My son also calls it a pseudo-science...which his chart indicated he would view astrology just like that. :p lol)

If ever the newspaper horoscope is accurate, it is by chance.

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Posted October 27 2012 - 09:14 PM

I obviously like to hear good news about myself - so I read all the astrological signs in the newspaper, and pick out the one I like :D OK, I know that is cheating - but that's about as serious as I take this.

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Posted October 27 2012 - 09:17 PM


If ever the newspaper horoscope is accurate, it is by chance.


I would not be surprised if they recycle some of the horoscopes. Here they generally end: I have some exciting news for you personal and professional life - please call 0845 premium rate line.

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Posted October 27 2012 - 09:19 PM

I obviously like to hear good news about myself - so I read all the astrological signs in the newspaper, and pick out the one I like :D OK, I know that is cheating - but that's about as serious as I take this.


LOL ^ And that is exactly the way you should do it when reading newspaper horoscopes. :D

Obviously, I know a bit about astrology. That being said, KNOWING has not changed a ding-dang thing in my life. Perhaps it explained a bit (or a lot), but that is all. (I'm still recovering from a very stupidly and badly broken ankle.)

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Posted October 27 2012 - 09:31 PM

I read a little about kabbalah about ten years ago. I think it was about peoples personalities passing through the planets. I even wrote a paper on it (for myself). It was all rather earnest (from what I remember). I think I was a lot more open to these types of things when I was younger. I've just grown really cynical or really lazy - I'm not sure.

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Posted October 28 2012 - 01:20 AM

To me it's a silly pseudoscience, and I can't really take seriously anyone who believes in it, and makes natal charts and such.

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Posted October 28 2012 - 02:31 AM

Depends what your talking about really... Newspaper horoscopes etc - no.
But things like personality traits I have read, have all been scarily true. I'm more interested in the Mayan side of things, they were some freaking cool people! :2thumbsup: depends on the individual I suppose.

I just can't believe that everything's black & white, what you see is what you get kind of crap...


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Posted October 29 2012 - 10:08 AM

Well, what I've found particularly interesting so far from reading this topic and this forum, is that there's much more to astrology than I realized. I guess all I really knew about was the newspaper astrology sections... I didn't know there were astrologists who can make an entire chart. I still am not sure how accurate that is, but it is interesting that there's more to astrology than I thought.

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Posted November 01 2012 - 05:10 PM

Astrology is your (mine) past, present and future so if only humans would understand astrology and multiverses,maybe we'd be in better shape.......only a few, know the true knowlegde and it is somehow kept from us all.It's for us(humanity as a whole) to evolve and get to better living.It's for the population to wake up and see what's out there.Open your mind and you'll see this world differently...... CHEERS

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Posted November 01 2012 - 05:15 PM

No, I do not.
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Posted November 03 2012 - 02:50 PM

Sure I believe in astrology ... it definitely exists.
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this really requires a more in-depth answer than i'm willing to type right now.


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Posted November 03 2012 - 05:07 PM

Sometimes my horoscope is very close to reality but sometimes it's just luck that something has happened in a similar predicted way.

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Posted November 03 2012 - 05:08 PM

Sometimes my horoscope is very close to reality but sometimes it's just luck that something has happened in a similar predicted way.


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Posted November 04 2012 - 01:48 AM

I don't believe in things that have been tested repeatedly under controlled conditions and found not to have any basis in evidence

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Posted November 04 2012 - 02:13 AM

In my opinion, astrology is accurate when you really get super serious, looking up all about your chart...not just your sun sign. You need to be aware of your rising sign and then you need to look at ALL the houses, all your aspects, and sometimes the degrees that the houses are on and the degrees of the planets make a difference. Just for one example...my sun is unaspected, which in itself "means something". There are literally numerous things to be looked at and considered when evaluating a chart.


Because there are so many factors, you can find confirmation for pretty much any interpretation of an astrological chart, many of them contradictory. If you think about it, this makes astrology extremely inaccurate. All you can do is verify your inferences, never refute them.
http://en.wikipedia..../Falsifiability

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Posted November 04 2012 - 02:31 AM

Astrology is your (mine) past, present and future so if only humans would understand astrology and multiverses,maybe we'd be in better shape.......only a few, know the true knowlegde and it is somehow kept from us all.It's for us(humanity as a whole) to evolve and get to better living.It's for the population to wake up and see what's out there.Open your mind and you'll see this world differently...... CHEERS


And that is your opinion, you can't really state it as a fact.

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Posted November 04 2012 - 01:14 PM

i read the newspaper horoscope, its just barnham statements that let you do the work, but fun in their own way.

don't believe in it at all, really.

terribly depressing thought, really, living in a deterministic universe where your date of birth affects both your personality and destiny? shackled to a futile, linear narrative by forces beyond your control or understanding with all the other august-clones like an esoteric version of Brave New World? no fucking thanks.

but then, i would say that; typical cancer :D

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Posted November 04 2012 - 01:29 PM

I'm asking this question because I'm actually curious. I'm not trying to start a debate. Personally I believe astrology is just pseudoscience, but I'm interested to hear what some true believers say. Sorry if this has been asked before. Honestly I only looked at the first page............

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In the past, I thought it was tripe OR just so far removed from what it originally was, that it had lost all pretty much validity.

However, I never had any evidence to assess it.

To sum up, I think there's quack astrology and an astrology that people don't readily understand. ie most of us don't know what REAL astrology is.

Part of my work, I assess financial markets. And the idea of using planets for this sounded moronic.

But in finance, the big mystery is the length of cycles ie booms, busts etc, and all the moves in between.

Now one form of astrology is ALL about cycle lengths - day, week, month, morning, year, crop season etc. Then we have cycles like lifespan, career etc. And cycles in weather and other influences. This is science I'm talking about not "natal Venus in Conjunct with Saturn".

Planetary alignments can be considered "clocks", timing patterns that history can judge and confirm(or not). Then we have the physical influences these planets have-ntypically sun, moon, earth etc.

I've checked out reports by central banks, and conventional economists/banks etc. Even birth patterns eg month of birth give huge statistical correlations. The reality is that our minds operate according to cycles, patterns and constantly recurring "magic numbers".

I'm only interested in the science, not the "claimed tradition". It was a big eye-opener.

I'd love to find out about the Vatican's astrology books, and also some more Kabbalist stuff. Its weird when something u think is shite, turns into a revelation.

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Posted November 08 2012 - 10:37 AM

I agree, I think whether or not one believes in astrology often has to do with how much understanding one has on the subject. If all you know about is your Sun sign and newspaper horoscopes, you're probably going to consider it silly superstition. I think a person with more in-depth knowledge on the subject will find it difficult to dismiss completely. Most people know their Sun sign, but that's just one piece of the puzzle. I find natal astrology to be uncanny in its accuracy. However, I consider horoscopes to be generalized BS. My two cents.
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