the closest RC's to MDMA

just wondering what the best alternative to m.d.m.a is.

what are your thoughts on 4-f.m.c (flephedrone)

 

Nothing comes as close as BK-MDMA, Methylone.

 

I second that thought....

 

Did you ever notice a change in methylone over time? I was many years ago receiving yellow-toned and characteristic-odoured plant fewd. Then it became more white-coloured, and noticably ... lower potency or of a different substance and grade.

Anyone compare 6-APB or other current market items as to what 'comes as close as' or is the best 'alternative'?

 

6-apb is even closer, it's slightly lacking on the lovey aspect (could have been set/setting) but it's got more of the light psychedelia and more full on than methylone.

 

^^did you mention before that you found the combo of 6-apb + 5-apb more like ecstasy than either alone?

 

Yah, the combo is more like ecstasy.

 

I only ever bought it once and it was white. I had a ridiculously good time. I liked it more than MDMA even in some ways

 

I'm curious as to what aspects you prefer from methylone over mdma and what your doses for methylone were like? I'm pretty sure ive read you dose mdma in that 100-130 mgs range...

 

Methylone felt much cleaner and had more of a stim aspect to it, which I enjoy like you, and MDMA can lack that at times. But really it was just very clean and dirt cheap

I don't remember for sure what my dose was but I think around 200-250mg oral.

 

what RC vender do you recommend

 

this forum has a policy that states no discussion of sources.. just to let you know mate

FYI;
search google for full chemical name of desired substance and look for stuff on the later pages of the search (not first few):sunny:

 

The only one I can compare is also methylone; and while it is quality, it is no MDMA, nothing ever will be Methylone (ugh dastardly ban; I did love it!) has nearly the same initial onset and "rush" as mdma but it lacks the over-the-top, lovey dovey quality of mdma (though admittedly my dosage of each has been on the lower side). Also, it has an irritatingly short duration, roughly 3 hours total for an initial dose, which for myself and from what I've read, plenty of others, brings a STRONG urge to redose over and over. Never got yellowish M1, do remember however the first time (ahhhhh the 1st time on any quality substance is the BEST)...it was sparkly crystals and damn near mdma, then it gradually shifted to a more powdery, flour looking substance that was still good.

I've heard great things about 6apd (GB, taking a lot of what you have said into account), actually have had some for a couple weeks now and am still trying to find time to give it a go; though now I wish I had some 5abp to compliment it

 

Be sure to let us know how this goes for you man!

 

Ive had bad experiences with finding an alternative to mdma. Like mephedrone,took 500mgs and felt nothing (and it was tested 100% pure, i saw the results. natural tolerance i guess). Nothing seems to really top it, but ive learned thats because these other chems just really are NOT Mdma and shouldnt be judged as such. Just like people comparing every other psychedelic to LSD. They should be respected as their own not as mdma. Dont get me wrong though, I want a perfect mdma replacement too. I'm very curious about 5 and 6apd though,

 

After being spoiled on good n' plenty M1 and 4mmc, mdma never really felt all that 'magical' ... kind of as if mdma was a poor substitute for original recipe M1. I greatly realize your statement that all things should stand on their own, though the uninitiated, but curious and scared will often ask 'whats it like?'

Now I just tell people "It tastes like chicken!" :mickey:

But, 6-apb is like a watered down M1, if I must make such base comparisons. :2thumbsup:

 

^ Interesting to hear you say that rcable, although I've heard a few people enjoy M1.

I defintely can see MDMA's magic seeming 'tame' compared to mephedrone but it's far superior to methylone ime. I'm not sure the enviornment you use it but it excels far more in social enviornments with a good amount of stimulation. 6-apb has that same kind of heavy emphasis on setting, I also think it's vastly superior, potent and deeper than M1.

I don't even consider methylone an empathogen actually but it seems whichever entactogen one tries first is usually the one people fancy.

 

I never liked mdma, because hardly anyone ever had completely pure stuff. Any mdma that isnt pure just has this odd feeling attached to it, like its stripping stuff out of me (not just on a chemical level, but emotional/spiritual as well)

6 + 5-apb is pretty magical

m1 + 4-mmc at a 60%/40% ratio is very nice

 

there's more designer drugs out right now than ever before, i can get methylone for around $10/g without buying huge quantities it took a little work to get the sources i have for the things i can get my hands on...i do wish i had a source to get Rx benzos and opiates, stuff like that..and viagra might be nice to go with the methylone lol

 

i tried pentedrone and its kinda similar