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#1 Ganjabeliever

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Posted August 28 2011 - 06:13 AM

I'm just curious, I've heard people talk about SEA #4 but I've never heard anyone say anything about afghanistans #4. Since 95% of H comes from afghan I was wondering why people don't talk about it. I couldn't even find anybody on the web thats mentioned it. So what is their H like? Is it brown like south american or is it better than SEA's?

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Posted August 29 2011 - 06:19 PM

Most Afghani heroin is produced into #3 heroin base a brown powdery form, not water soluble without the use of citric acid or the like..SEA#4 is heroin hcl. the fine white powder, soluble in water at cold temps, better for snorting and best for IV use..most Afgan heroin is #3 heroin base aka smoking heroin...Colombian heroin I have seen also ranges from off white powder, to light brown or tannish powder. Colombian heroin is in the high purity the best type of heroin available in the US and the world other than SEA #4 white powder heroin..Some Colombian heroin is brownish,some lighter brown, some tan, some off white, some is more white than not...very similar in potentcy between Colombian white and light brown, browish/tan powder, it's both #4 and the difference is only in the final extra step used in SEA which uses a solution of chloroform and activated charcoal to wash any coloring from the manufacturing process out of the heroin..

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Posted August 29 2011 - 09:18 PM

Interesting thanks for all that. I heard brown dope was good but never knew it was some of the best out there, comparable to afghan. Thanks. Have you tried columbian? whats the purity range?

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Posted August 31 2011 - 06:13 AM

Interesting thanks for all that. I heard brown dope was good but never knew it was some of the best out there, comparable to afghan. Thanks. Have you tried columbian? whats the purity range?


Well the Brown powder and the off white powder from Colombia are higher purity and quality than Afghani heroin,which almost all of is only made into brown powdery #3 heroin base for smoking and IV users must add cirtric acid to the water and #3 heroin to get the #3 heroin to dissolve in water, since #3 heroin base, is like it's name a base and is best for smoking..Heroin from anyplace that is processed correctly can be 90-95% pure or higher..much of the Colombian heroin in NYC,NJ,Philly,Boston is especially in NJ, avg. purity I hear for a $10 bag is 70-80% and sometimes the "raw" or not cut very much at all, is as high as 95-99% in NJ, the cops have found street bags with heroin from Colombia that is anywhere from 60-99% retail..Chicago,Atlanta,Baltimore,New Orleans ,etc.. tend to get the light brown powder #4 heroin from Colombia, and not as much of the off white #4 from Colombia, but the only difference in purity at kilogram levels and even 50 gram amounts for bigger dealers is often the same as or sometimes more pure than the off white Colombian heroin, although from the kilogram level leaving the heroin labs in Colombia the light brown heroin powder has just not had another process done to it, to lighten the color and is within a few % purity otherwise as White heroin powder from Colombia...SEA#4 aka China white, which is rare,very rare in the US, is usually cut to 90% in South East Asia with caffeine and sold in kilograms ,but I think and the science of pharmacology says that 90% pure #4 heroin hcl powder is equal to other #4 heroin hcl powder, it's about the purity of #4 heroin, not the source really that makes it good or not...Afghani heroin is usually at best, the #3 brown base heroin that 90%+ of all the heroin from Afghanistan is made into and smuggled to Russia and Western Europe,etc..well it averages at the kilogram leaving the heroin lab, at 80-85% tops maybe close to 90% rarely..but it does not compare in purity and quality of any #4 powder heroin hcl..not at kilogram levels, or street bags either..The avg bag of Colombian #4 powder in NJ,NYC area is higher than many kilogram amounts of Afghani #3 Brown heroin base...

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Posted August 31 2011 - 07:26 AM

Interesting. I've never done dope but I enjoy the occasional opiates. But when I tried to look up experiences about afghan dope I couldn't find any. I was under the impression they were making the best. I figured South American dope was a step above tar. thanks for clearing that up for me.

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Posted August 31 2011 - 08:25 AM

Hey, guys, I just want to say that this is the HipForums, which is to say that it's for people who want to be "hip". Doing heroin is not hip. It's not something that hip people would do because everyone knows it's nothing but bad news.

Jerry Garcia, "Captain Trips", thought he could handle it, but he couldn't.

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Posted August 31 2011 - 09:28 AM

Is it heroin thats not hip or opiates in general because YOU cam into the opiate subforum. Forums are designed to share knowledge. The opiate SUBforum is designed to share knowledge about opiates. We are not talking about dose, prepping for IV, or even anything remotely illegal. It was simply an opiate topic. Sorry you don't like it

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Posted August 31 2011 - 11:46 AM

Hey, guys, I just want to say that this is the HipForums, which is to say that it's for people who want to be "hip". Doing heroin is not hip. It's not something that hip people would do because everyone knows it's nothing but bad news.

Jerry Garcia, "Captain Trips", thought he could handle it, but he couldn't.


this is the opiate section, and heroin is an opiate, so fuck off....


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Posted August 31 2011 - 11:49 AM

ScottDK, you know your H, that is for damn sure.....lol, its almost scary, lol
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Posted August 31 2011 - 12:04 PM

Its a shame opiateforum.com isn't still around :(

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Posted September 02 2011 - 11:47 PM

Their is still opiophile. But the most the people on phile are either really wack angry doods or completely misinformed. I much rather kick it here on hip forums.
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#12 Ganjabeliever

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Posted September 03 2011 - 05:32 AM

I'm talking about opiateforum
not opiophile

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Posted September 03 2011 - 06:29 PM

Yea Opiateforum was the best!!!
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Posted September 04 2011 - 03:37 AM

Yep you were the oxy. opiateforums was better that opiophile and hipforums

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Posted September 05 2011 - 08:40 AM

ScottDK, you know your H, that is for damn sure.....lol, its almost scary, lol


lol,,yes it is almost scary..lol..I have a lot of family members that taught me and personaly have seen a lot of stuff,,lol

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Posted September 05 2011 - 08:45 AM

Hey, guys, I just want to say that this is the HipForums, which is to say that it's for people who want to be "hip". Doing heroin is not hip. It's not something that hip people would do because everyone knows it's nothing but bad news.

Jerry Garcia, "Captain Trips", thought he could handle it, but he couldn't.


Please, hip to one person is a square ass to another..all the 50's hipsters were into speed,and heroin..so, well call the people that led to the 60's and so on being able to happen not hip if you want...I talk about heroin as to inform not advocate..Hip is hip, not decided by you , or me, it is what it is, and this is the opaite section, so whether you like it or not, heroin has always been a part of the underground music,arts,litetary works,etc.. for the past 100 years or so...if thats not hip ,then I don't wanna be what you consider "hip" ...shit, if you have to define what is or is not "hip" then you are not!!!

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Posted September 05 2011 - 08:51 AM

Yep you were the oxy. opiateforums was better that opiophile and hipforums


opiophile is full of misinformed people, I was on it for a month or so, while still going to other sites like this one, and they think tar is from Mexico and colombia..lol..they are spreading a lot of misinformation on opiophile , which suprised me, I thought they would know their drugs, but not so much,,lol..they are about 30 years off on the types of heroin in the US..lol..try and tell them otherwise and they get mad, but I give those mad people links with properly documented facts on heroin,etc.. and they then apoligize and say they never knew!!? Why would they not look up stuff they are talkign about like experts? Do research and so on before they claim to be experts I say..I quit going on there,,too much worng stuff, and not enough time for me to change their minds with truth backed up by true references and facts!!oh well..let them think what they will,I will not be there to read the bullshit they post!

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Posted September 12 2011 - 06:12 PM

Yea Opiateforum was the best!!!


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Posted January 03 2012 - 02:31 PM

I'm bout to purchase 1/2 gram of afghan #4 heroin. supposed to be in the 70-90% pure range. i will be plugging, sniffing, and smoking it. on top of a wee bit of mxe ;)

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Posted January 08 2012 - 06:22 PM

I actually think Opiophile is good for Pharmaceutical opiate information - and to be honest better than this forum for it - just my opinion and like assholes we all have one :) - just wanted to add that before anyone bashes me for that comment. My opinion is based on the type of Threads that are on there vs here - they seem more experienced in the type of questions asked and responses received. Than again I'm new to this forum in comparison (lurker for over a year), so it's based on the threads I've seen. Also I do think there are a handful of posters on this forum that are very knowledgeable (Porkchop for one), but it's the types of questions that are asked that lead to the responses, for which on Opiophile they seem to be at a deeper level.

And in terms of general reading pleasure in general I think grasscity is by far hands down the best.

Just my opinion and thought I'd add my $0.02!!!

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Posted January 08 2012 - 06:47 PM

you seem to knw ur shit but actually i beg to differ. there is afghani white heroin. the best powdered form heroin comes from colombia and afghanistan too. the brownish shitty kind could be from anywhere but is usually from mexico. black tar is mexican too.

im not saying u r wrong. however im middle eastern and i tell u there is #4 afghani heroin.

also IMO heroin form only differ when your snorting. snorting brown heroin never works and requires herculian amounts! snorting pure white heroin works like magic. however when u shoot that shit it doesnt matter, just dissolve it in citric instead of water and it hits u exactly like white heroin does, ofcourse u have to use a bit more. also, eventhough black tar is usually frowned upon, alot of users swear by it and would prefer using it over any powdered form, due to the fact that its a mixture of heroin related chemicals and has some what of a unique high.
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Posted January 12 2012 - 09:41 AM

just snorted chemically analized Diamorph that originated in afghan and was refined into #4 in turkey. 50mg has me feeling like an oc 80. and i got .45 grams left!