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#1 Graham1105

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Posted May 09 2011 - 03:55 PM

Think about it, some scientists believe that animals, such as dogs and cats, see color differently than humans do. Now think about this, is there any reason to believe that the "colors" we perceive are the actual colors of the Earth? Could it be that all we see are basically tricks and illusions that our brains play on us? Also, what if everyone sees colors differently than others. Ever since we're born we have things labeled by other people around us. Let's take a tree for instance, we are told it is brown. There is a possibility, however, that it's actually "blue", "red", or any other "color". That is also possibly why some people enjoy different kinds of art. Even though it is somewhat out there I just thought that I'd post it to see what you all think of it.

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Posted May 09 2011 - 04:00 PM

interesting thoughts.

But really, life is all one big illusion. all matter is the result of consciousness so it doesn't really matter
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#3 Graham1105

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Posted May 09 2011 - 04:09 PM

Exactly! There's even a possibility that our brain sub-consciously manipulates what we hear into something we would like to hear.

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Posted June 05 2011 - 09:51 AM

My friends and I have discussed this idea that we only see certain colors in the spectrum and there must be millions more we can't see, that means there is colors out there that aren't even close to any colors we can see.

If you could see these colors how could you even explain them?

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Posted June 05 2011 - 01:03 PM

Yep it's your brain just converting certain wavelengths to 'brain language'. It does it with everything, actually. Every sense is just a translation of external factors to 'brain language'. This is the reason why reality is relative. It is the basis of the discussion if the DMT world is 'real'. DMT is interfering with your brain chemistry and replaces the neurotransmitter hormones, distorting your (normal view of) reality.
It also brings up the perception that everything that we cannot sense, does not mean it does not exist. It just mean that whatever it is we cannot sense, it is not interfering with our life cycle and therefore evolution. For example extra dimensions, alternate life forms, multiple universes and in this case, colours.
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Posted June 05 2011 - 01:22 PM

colour is like music

we all experience it differently

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Posted June 05 2011 - 01:33 PM

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Posted June 05 2011 - 01:35 PM

what does yellow smell like?
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Posted June 05 2011 - 01:44 PM

It's an interesting question I have often pondered, and one that can never be answered. There is no way to tell if someone else perceives the colour red in the same way that you do. All we can tell about our perception of light of wavelength around 650nm is that we all agree, excluding people who may suffer from certain forms of colour blindness, that it is called "red"

There may also be other colours that perhaps some animals can perceive due to the physical make-up of their perceptory systems that we cannot. There may be colour perception that some people can perceive that most others cannot, but they are unaware of this. No-one has yet found a way to tell, and no-one probably ever will.

As to the question of whether colours are "absolute" properties of the universe or reality, I think that it is suffice to say that they only exist within the context of our perception and that the perception of colours, like all perceptions, is the result of a cognitive PROCESS- that is to say they are not static entities, but the result of a processing of information from external stimuli within our internal minds. Same as taste is not so much a property of the food that we eat, but rather a sensation that we experience when the food interacts chemically with our bodies.

They can be said to be absolute properties of the universe, or reality, I think... if you consider perception to a part of the universe, which of course it is.
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Posted June 12 2011 - 12:43 PM

I think of this all of the time. When I see blue that same color may look green to you. Also Me and a buddy tripped acid one day and I swear we wernt hallucinating, we were actually seeing things that we could not see before. We were able to read each others minds without talking. It was crazy but will not ever do again.

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Posted August 08 2011 - 09:08 AM

Interesting article in the BBC today about colour perception.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...onment-14421303

For the UK members- Horizon is doing a special on colour perception tonight at 9pm.
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#12 ZiggyZuZu

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Posted August 08 2011 - 09:24 AM

What if our brain and eyes don't allow us to only see a limited amount of things. There could colours that we've never discovered.

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Posted August 08 2011 - 12:10 PM

This doesn't only apply to colors. There is just a complete disconnect between communication and what is experienced for certain.

Like, what I think of as a tree could be something completely abstract for you. We could all be living in completely separate fantasies and just share a common language. Maybe what you guys even think of as a human being isn't what I think of.

Maybe you see furry creatures with horns or something, except, of course, you'll have different concepts of what "furry" and "horns" are too.

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Posted August 09 2011 - 06:13 PM

Colors only exist in our minds. Our eyes have evolved over millions of years to pick up only 3 distinct frequencies of light energy. It's no coincidence it's these three colors; red, green and blue. They are the three most important colors of survival; blood, plants and water. From mixing those three primary colors our minds can interpolate over a million variations. Color distinctions are programmed into an infants mind as neural connections are formed from the senses. It is possible that actual perceptions of color could vary from one mind to the next but would be impossible to know for sure as each mind has learned to accept their own perceptions as normal. As far as experiencing another color, our minds simply aren't wired for it. The new light signal would have to be introduced in the developing mind of an infant for starters, on top of that human DNA wouldn't likely know what to do with the signal.

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Posted August 09 2011 - 06:42 PM

What if our brain and eyes don't allow us to only see a limited amount of things. There could colours that we've never discovered.


As far as humans go there is a limited spectrum of colors humans can perceive due to processing colors similarly through cones and rods in the eye connecting to the visual cortex, although within that spectrum we each perceive colors differently.. There are animals that can perceive higher and lower frequencies of colors than humans such as some reptiles detecting ultra violet light.
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