One poth Meth

foooooollll..... I mean, sure, 1pot meth works, I've seen recepies that looked totally legit, in that the end product should contain small amounts of inefficently made methamphetamine. And maybe you could even smoke it a few times before dieing of all sorts of acute toxicity.

Also, you DO need to be a PHD to have a legit lab and access to the precursers for the drugs in question.... or to go inventing new ones or to make a host of other fun ones...

 

Getting my phd meant writing a paper, not learning how to make illegal drugs, the only thing I was able to do afterwards was hand build peptides for 150 times the cost as buying them from china, big deal. You don't get magic access to precursors, they are purchased or manufactures. Your lab is in use, you don't get access to an unobserved lab - where did you study for yours?

Everything comes out impure - the wash cleans it. Yeild is always high with meth if you know what yr doing as alteration so simple.

If you want to learn how to make drugs and willing to listen, one pot has huge advantage over RW+B, you remove the need for the AA, remove the fumes, contain the solvent, and prevents air from causing any issues if you do it right, sounds to me like you once looked at the very wrong youtube clip circulating which shoes a string of dangerous practices that can be entirely avoided. Or watching news reports that you don't understand.

What did you last synth? Talking about "recipes"? You're not baking a cake, you don't sound like anyone who has done anything but googled meth and pretending to be an expert, just checked some of yr posts, you don't seem to any chemistry whatsoever.

One pot has been used for 50+ years perfectly safely all over the world, one news network gets hold of it, a few police call it dangerous, and a few thousand internet warriors think they're experts and propagate the police lie.

If I'm wrong and you do know your stuff, not just copy and pasting bullshit, how exactly do you thnk the product is being contaminated by one-pot - please explain to me the stage and impurity it introduces, we can discuss it and I'll show you how to improve your synth. No matter how you make any drug you should be washing the final product to remove the impurities and catalysts - didn't you learn this in lab?

 

oh, just seen your age. Forget it, enjoy reading about shit on google. Don't attempt any drug synthesis until you've been shown how to use chemicals safely, the ones used in any meth synth are dangerous.

 

the standard recipe is a one pot recipe. you put sudo+hi+rp or sudo+i2+P into one flask or pot and wallah! you're cooking

 

I don't get why people hate meth so much when MDMA and MDA are very closely related to meth... It is a phenethylamine just like MDA and MDMA. The effects are even very similar. Lovey, talkative, love to listen to people talk, feel happy, etc..

It has to be because there are people that go over the top with meth and that you can use meth for 3 days way easier than MDMA. Look at someone who doesn't eat or sleep much in their lives without meth, and you will see the same type of bodies and psycho thinking.

 

so,, what your saying is, sleep deprived people are psychotic..


Awesome..

 

i think it's because it doesn't make you stupid like the downers do, infact it has the opposite effect and it's been so readily available in the US for a long time and the only way to combat it is through mass propaganda and people believe what they're told to believe... the powers that be use to say that pot is addictive and will turn you into a sex pervert.

 

Strong amphetamines basically burn out your brain, in excess.

You don't go on a 2 week MDMA binge, it's classifiable as a psychedelic, there are just a few people in recorded drug history with MDMA addictions, you don't crave it in the same manner. Meth has no psychedelic properties (Imagine methamphetamine psychotherapy.... yeahhhh...) but DOES cause multi-week sleepless binges full of violence and insanity. And the difficulties in making MDMA and getting precursers GENERALLY will mean that labs are run by more responsible people, instead of the generic meth cooks who turn their labs and the surrounding woods/playgrounds/anywhere else they can dump their shit into fucking superfund cleanup sites.

Mr. PHD, no the PHD doesn't mean you know all that shit, it means you've had a chance to study it, and if psychedelic chemistry is the direction you choose to go, you can do that, and then it gives you a chance to get a job in the field, in proximity to those chemicals, for example with one of the universities doing studies on psychedelics... like mine.... There are legitimate jobs that put you in a position to do that, if it's what you love doing.

As for me and synths, I've never done SHIT, because of the fact that I can't get precursers or equipment, and that the fact that I do plan to study chemistry a LOT more before that kind of thing. I'm quite confident that I could make methamphetamine, but I have no interest in this.

 

Lol, it does make hallucinations, destroys neurons, stunts growth and the healing process, and weakens memory!

MDMA isn't considered a psychedelic by anyone that I know. Its about as psychedelic as alcohol. It is classified as an entactogen stimulant as far as I know. And I would agree with what I have read about it. Plus, none of this matter because it is chemically very much like meth

MDMA

Meth


There literally is only a few drugs closer to meth than MDMA.

Meth making violence is just what the person choses to do. Meth is easy to get on the street where dumb people with no life or brain can get strung out on it. MDMA is too expensive for the violent stupid people to get ahold of usually (hyperbolic, I know ). I think that most people feel much worse the day after 2 rolls than do people after 10 hours of speeding. That includes me. Oh, and I never got violent.

I do agree that MDMA will usually be more pure though, because you need more experience and precursors. But if you find meth in crystal form, its no less pure than molly.

P.S. MDMA = MethyleneDioxyMethAmphetamine

 

teach you that in high school watching a video in class? You have a promising career ahead it seems with such insight.

It's 'Doctor' thanks, you have no idea what you are talking about, precursors are watched and audited by employers who are licensed to use them, that's not how it works, seems google failed you again. Try reading my post again, you'll see that I say having the qualification made no difference to my ability to manufacture. Manufacture is easy, it doesn't take specialist knowledge, just basic but sound chem.

So basically, you admit you're just a keyboard warrior with no knowledge or experience, but still claim that you could make meth, yet are unable to identify a single point of impurity introduction to back out your bullshit claims - you're just quoting from public news stories. High post count means you talk too much, not that you know more. Why do you comment on something you admit to having no experience in?

One pot still contains similar reactions to other methods, they're simply done dynamically, not statically, and under containment that can be controlled through encapsulated venting. if you get the numbers right on the way in, the reactions happen exactly the same. It's a superior clandestine method as it avoids all of the aspects which would get people caught. If people choose to do it unethically, that's not a chem issue, it's an environmental one. If people choose to abuse it, it's a social or personal issue.

Stop scarmongering you arrogant little scrote, people want to learn and the people who actually know can help them improve their knowledge and stay safe. You've got nothing to add in terms of knowledge or experience, so why bother taking the time to put your stamp on the thread? The simple truth is that one pot methods have been used for decades, the reason you are only hearing about them recently is that the guys using them were never caught until the recent surge of guys sing it after someone released it on a public notice board rather than the private discussion groups being used before, and people who don't know the facts are having a go, and getting partial results. As it's out, the best thing to be done is to be honest about how to make it safer for people.

 

I know there's others who consider MDMA psychedelic... It is certainally a lot moreso than methamphetamine, at least, IMO...

Also, because it's similar doesn't mean a whole lot about it's effects or their classification, mescaline, 2c's and dox's are all phenethylamines too.... And they're all as psychedelic as they come.

You don't have to be fighting imaginary dragons for it to be psychedelic

*edit* to you one pot meth advocates, yeah, I totally get it now, just throw it all in your cauldron and wallahm, purest of the pure, highest quality of the high quality, grade A methamphetamine.... Can you go over how to make polyjuice potion next?

 

The primary reactions are contained by the "pot" in the onepot - the actual meth isn't produced there if the cook is good. It isn't washed there either.

RooRShack - I'm aiming this directly at you - I question your chemistry and knowledge of the synth - I think you are pretending to understand something that in fact escapes you. I don't understand why you would lie about this unless you were some way unwell. If I'm wrong, please answer this simple question - chemically, why is a dynamic approach different to a multi stage static approach? Please explain in terms of both yield and purity, using the actual ingredients you think are used by shake and bake cooking? Google won't help you, the answer isn't there, the net is mostly full of people just like you. But the chemistry and maths is extremely simple, a talented school child could analyse it correctly.

 

Brother if this is really ONE POTH method?
And what is this sudo + hi + rp or sudo + i2 + P
What is HI and RP, and i2 and P.
Do you think this is really a method?

Fucking give people stop to quarrel I think on this forum should be a topic where everyone will be fighting, not by your posts.
I just wondered if anyone has ONE POTH METH RECIPE.

 

No, one pot doesn't exist.

 

I could give you a synthesis, recipes are for cakes, one pot absolutely does exist and works fine. One was put up here not long ago that would have been close to working. Asking for a recipe means you'll be ignored by anyone in the know straight away.

You're not going to find a straight set of instructions on a an open forum like this, as it would be accessory to manufacture, conspiracy to manufacture and possibly joint venture depending on where you're unlucky enough to live.

The reality of one pot cooking it you put it all in the bottle and wait with a gentle swirl, nothing more. It absolutely exists. Most of your meth is made this way whether you believe in it or not.

 

I told you, I make no claim to understanding the chemistry of this specifically, but I do make a claim to common sense. Putting all the reagents in a pot doesn't make meth, doing each reaction as cleanly as possible in it's own container has no downside, and every upside.

You're right, Google won't help me, who the FUCK looks for drug info on google? I'm quite confident I know exactly where to find this information, several places in real life and on the internet. And just like you're saying "I know all 'bout 1pot, bro, just can't tell ya... but I know, cause I R teh smart" Well I'm saying I don't know, and I won't look it up for you.

 

But I don't need it looked up, check my other posts, I'm familiar and practiced in both routes to meth, synthed up in quite a few different ways depending on what's available at the time.

I've looked through a few of your posts now, you're exactly the sort of person who gives this thing a bad name, gobby and full of shit. Why are you posting in a drug's chemistry forum if you know absolutely nothing, and have no wish to learn? You try so hard to look knowledgeable, you're pathetic. I just saw you suggested petroleum distillate from a dmt AB extraction might explode a building if a fan is left on. Just one example of you trying to look clever while scaring people away from the most basic, standard techniques is a sad attempt to make up for a total absence of experience and knowledge. You've been caught out.

People like you are the reason that all the good chemists had to leave the net, only now are they poking their heads up a bit. You sit behind you computer acting a part like you're in a school play.

If you want to learn, your "common sense" has failed you entirely in this case. Adding all the reagents is what we call dynamic reacting, rather than static reacting. There are pros and cons to each, the major downside being that you can't measure or test the partial products for quality or yield to perfect a reaction - important for a pharma company up until they have it fully understood, but then it's cheaper in terms of time to move to dyno. In this particular case, you're looking to make a tiny alteration, and so the yield is going to be huge. No need for spreading it out, you are working illegally, so the metics to observe and measure go beyond yield (where that doesn't matter as is huge anyway and precursors cheap) and look and time, space, mobility and access to chemicals which may get you caught. So shake and bake one-pot is the clear choice forward. The chemicals required for the method are less dangerous to handle, easier to find, attract less attention and the reaction happens faster and over fewer stages, in a much smaller area, in something mobile. There are no fumes to attract attention and you can vent manually and safely into a container.

You don't take all the inputs to RW+B, it is a different reaction, it wouldn't work without a reaction suited to dyno work.

Intelligent people use the internet for drug production information because the books describe methods the police already know about, clandestine chemistry involves not getting caught. Books are vital, but you're simply not smart enough to come up with a synth by yourself. Years spent doing this gives you a feel for who is full of shit and who is learning and probably will make it. You're not the latter. You need to get accepted by the people in the know, acting like some expert aged 19 with nothing to back you up just makes people laugh.

Oh, another one of your idiot posts cropped up the other day when you suggested somehow the police were monitoring the super secret technique of deprotonising DMT to make it non polar, a practice that's in common usage in every area of plant alkaloid manipulation and has been for around 3000 years. Absolutely pathetic, was polite that time, not realising how stupid you were.

You've admitted you have nothing to add in any way except your own entirely fabricated notions of safety. I honestly have no idea what is wrong in your head that you want to waste your time trying to look important? Is your home life that bad that you have to lie on the internet to gain acceptance?

People on here want to learn about chemistry, others on here know and are happy to explain. Where exactly do you think you fit in to that simple structure? You're a child with nothing. Grow up.

 

Not quite...

You have no proof of anything you say, but we all know than that you're a super meth chemist.

There's many obvious drawbacks to onepot meth if you think it through, what you just said is that it's the best choice because it's easy to do fast with very little equipment... and safe. Not safe in the least, just easy for tweaking fuckers to do in their sleazy motel before ditching the waste and moving on.

You also seem under the impression that naptha does not explode. In the extraction I was replying to, spicy said to "seal" the room, put a fan for exhaust, and naptha by the fan. I don't care who accepts it, in a room without enough influx of fresh air, not enough will exhaust, the room will fill with vapor, and it doesn't take a genius to see that electrical sparks, as in fans and the like, are dangerous, just slightly above there it said to kill pilot lights, etc.

Your whole argument is that people manage it without dieing, so it's tried, true, and safe.

But you're right, I just want attention on the internet, and I'm just not old enough to know you do that by spamming goatse and tubgirl. You obviously don't do it by trying to stop tweakers from blowing their heads off. It shouldn't take a rocket scientist that the closer to your finial product all the precursers are, especially in something ALWAYS as poorly made and washed as meth, the more the tweaking retard is going to end up with in the finial product... If there's one mix... well fuck. And you say that it's safe because all the meth I buy all the time was made this way? If I was consuming meth, I'd be making it, because otherwise, it's people like you making it.

 

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for the hobbyist , ter-rr-ist and meth cook in you.. :love:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n9Oq-_G5Kc"]YouTube - Thunder in a test tube
this looks like more fun though..

 

wrong, I've been consulting to forums including the biggies before you even hit puberty, try using google. You'll notice that my posts simply give advice to help people with the next stage in their synth, the correct book to buy or give full synths back in the days of rhodium. I still consult to people in private forums now with full advice. There's no such thing as a super meth chemist - it's too simple a procedure, you've been watching too much tv, perhaps get out more and make some friends, Breaking Bad was fiction, quality meth can be produced by children. Your posts are fiction too and you've been caught out.

Not a single accuratly recorded case of harm in one pot cooking on industrial scale, I've seen 30+ labs go up in flames through rw&b manufacture and read about 100s. You're full of misinformed puerile bullshit and speculation again and it's just getting sadder as you clutch as the basic grasp on your school science class in a desperate attempt to save face. There are dangers in some of the one-pot recipes on the web, those in the know who care about harm reduction, not talking shit, are demonstrating publicly how to avoid the risks in a simple manner. Making one pot safe is almost as easy as performing it, with no added cost. Ambient air ingress and disposal of byproducts are the main risks, both mitigated at pretty much no cost. Others on here got to that before I did actually, as is normal, the quiet knowledgable guys, not the little pricks with the stupidly high post count with zero information in their posts. You've been caught out, time to admit you're an average, unremarkable kid living with their parents wishing they were something more and trying hard for recognition, while in fact simply confusing people who are trying to achieve something.

there little point getting in the the physics of things like naptha evaporation and how slow the process happens as you're clearly not bright enough to grasp it, so I'll just leave you with this question - how the fuck do you think my laminar flow hood works with blowing up my lab? What motors to you think they come with? You're past idiotic and into the realms of retarded now, it's honestly sad that you haven't the education or expereince to see it.

wrong again, I almost feel sorry for you, we measure the risk of any procedure based on statistics and likelihood of accident vs cost of it in terms of finance and human effect, look up micromort analysis of industrial chemistry, failing that simply public emergency figures, again, things you'd understand if working and had been trained in chemistry or worked in harm reduction, which you clearly haven't been and don't. It's quantifiable (use a dictionary). We understand the results already - the danger comes in watching it roll out now it's public, reducing harm is something some of us are working hard at, giving something back. Any dangerous chemical can be unsafe, so is crossing the road. Safety comes from quality experienced info being moved around at an equal or increased rate then the synthesis descriptions - something you are actively preventing by decreasing the signal to noise ratio. No-one takes pleasure and showing guys like you up really, but when too stupid to take the hint there's no choice.

How many tweakers have you saved so far from the dangers you've made up? It's not my fault you're not well connected enough to buy high quality drugs. Or do you just not get enough pocket money from your parents? You haven't got the skills to make one pot let alone a multi stage synth. You haven't got the equipment or knowledge to test each stage anyway, you're simply useless with a big mouth, or more accurately, hiding behind your computer acting like you've got nuts the size of tennis balls, no doubt in real life scared shitless of confrontation, in the years making drugs fucktards like you have always been the same, nothing changes. We see guys like you every day on the internet, failed at real life so clinging to the web trying to sound important, pretending you mean something to an online community with nothing to offer. I've been skimming through some of your posts, all identical in nothing useful except blind and misguided speculation, normally corrected by someone who does know the answer. Normally it's best ignored, you pricks normally go back to excessive masturbation or get thrown out from your parent's house for being worthless, but guys like you are dangerous and slow advances at actual clandestine chemistry but clogging up boards with drivel. There's only so much any one real chemist can do to correct the bullshit you spit out because we've got real things to get on with, but at least it's nice to see that decent guys are quietly making things right for the guys actually trying to learn. You stem the flow of information and do the police's work for them, nothing but a blight on the scene. Another self important important little shit with nothing to offer.