LSD vs. Mescaline vs. Psilocybin

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by dandandan01, Jan 26, 2010.

  1. dandandan01

    dandandan01 Banned: Underage

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    This is a callout to all the veteran trippers out there. What is the difference between the trip experienced by these 3 different alkaloids? I'm not talking in terms of psyiological effects such as duration or side effects. Out of the 3 i've only had experience with psilocybin and i know it makes you really confused but you feel confused at how your thoughts are SO clear. And that it makes things appear to be breathing or slowly moving, and colours softly but quickly change throughout the rainbow. These are effects that i've felt and i know it's hard to accurately describe such a subjective experience but any sort of table of effects type thing would be pretty cool and would help out A LOT.:drool5:
     
  2. L.ifes S.ubliminal D.ream

    L.ifes S.ubliminal D.ream Member

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    i love mescaline

    cleanest, most organized visual trip ever
     
  3. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    LSD:

    POSITIVE

    • increase in energy (stimulation)
    • increase in associative & creative thinking
    • mood lift
    • increased awareness & appreciation of music
    • increased awareness of senses (eating, drinking, smell)
    • closed and open eye visuals
    • life-changing spiritual experiences
    • therapeutic psychological reflection
    • feeling of oceanic connectedness to the universe; blurring of boundaries between self and other

    NEUTRAL

    • general change in consciousness
    • pupil dilation
    • difficulty focusing
    • increased salivation and mucus production (causes coughing in some people)
    • unusual body sensations (facial flushing, chills, goosebumps, body energy)
    • unusual thoughts and speech
    • change in perception of time
    • quickly changing emotions (happiness, fear, gidiness, anxiety, anger, joy, irritation)
    • slight increase in body temperature
    • slight increase in heart rate
    • increase in yawning (without being tired)

    NEGATIVE

    • anxiety
    • tension, jaw tension
    • increased perspiration
    • difficulty regulating body temperature
    • nausea
    • dizziness, confusion
    • insomnia
    • megalomania
    • over-awareness & over-sensitization to music and noise
    • paranoia, fear, and panic
    • unwanted and overwhelming feelings
    • unwanted life-changing spiritual experiences
    • flashbacks




    Mushrooms:

    POSITIVE

    • mood lift, euphoria
    • giggling, laughter, giddiness
    • creative, philosophical or deep thinking : ideas flow more easily
    • boring tasks or entertainment can become more interesting or funny
    • sensation of insight
    • life-changing spiritual experience
    • intense feelings of wonder
    • paradoxical feeling of a normalcy and deep alteration of psyche
    • may interrupt cluster sequences in those suffering from cluster headaches [ Cluster Headache Treatment ]

    NEUTRAL

    • feeling more emotionally sensitive
    • general change in consciousness (as with many psychoactives)
    • time perception alteration [ Wittmann 2006 ]
    • time seems to pass more slowly (minutes seem to take hours)
    • sensitivity to light; lights seem brighter
    • starring and rainbow patterns around pinpoint lights
    • increased detection of motion in peripheral vision
    • closed-eye visuals (common at medium or stronger dose)
    • sleepiness, lethargy
    • pupil dilation
    • sensation of energy or buzzing in the nevous system/peripheral limbs
    • memories come to life

    NEGATIVE

    • intense feelings of fear
    • headache, usually as effects wear off, sometimes beginning the next day, lasting for up to 24 hours
    • nausea, gas, gastrointestinal discomfort, especially when mushrooms are eaten raw and/or dry
    • mild to severe anxiety
    • dizziness, confusion
    • lightheadedness or fainting (in cases of lowered blood pressure)
    • can precipitate or exacerbate latent or existing mental disorders
    • working memory disruption (reduced ability to do tasks requiring current remembering and attention) [ Wittmann 2006 ]



    Cactus:

    POSITIVE

    • feelings of insight
    • brightening of colors
    • closed and open eye visuals
    • euphoria1
    • laughter
    • increase in energy (stimulation)
    • enhanced tactile sensation
    • happy, dreamy feelings1
    • feelings of hope or rejuvination1
    • increased access to spiritual ideation; deep esoteric experiences1

    NEUTRAL

    • general change in consciousness (as with most psychoactives)
    • loss of appetite
    • change in body temperature regulation
    • unusual thoughts and speech
    • unusual focus on either small details or large concepts; changes in meaning or significance of experiences1
    • mild to extreme distractability1
    • changes in perception of time1
    • changes in perception of "reality"
    • changes in self control1
    • unusual body sensations (facial flushing, chills, goosebumps, body energy)
    • ego softening
    • pupil dilation1
    • body tremors1
    • urge to urinate1 (in early stages of experience)
    • restlessness

    NEGATIVE

    • (likelihood of negative side effects increases with higher doses)
    • nausea and/or vomiting
    • chest and neck pain1 (in early stages of experience)
    • shortness of breath1
    • uncomfortable changes in body temperature (sweating/chills)
    • confusion, difficulty concentrating, problems with activities requiring linear focus
    • difficulty communicating1
    • inhibition of sex drive
    • insomnia
    • unpleasant or frightening visions
    • unwanted and overwhelming feelings, depression, anxiety
    • paranoia, fear, and panic


    from erowid. they are all very different, yet like all psychs, quite similar. though ive never done cacti/mescaline. But these are the three ambassadors from the three biggest families of drugs; the tryptamines, phenethylamines, and ergolines.
     
  4. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    I can't speak for mescaline though I hear it's the most intense in terms of the psychedelic effects.

    As for acid, acid feels much cleaner then shrooms. Your body feels light, the open eye visuals are much more vivid and numerous, yet at the same time clear cut. Your thought processes are also much more linear and functional, everything from reading/typing to conversating in real life to other people is easier.
     
  5. pr0ne420

    pr0ne420 Senior Member

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    That mescaline description sounds like DOx... sweet!
     
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    ACID is the best...
     
  7. pr0ne420

    pr0ne420 Senior Member

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    :deadxmas:
     
  8. Grinners

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    Ive never really understood what people mean when they say one psychedelic is more intense than another? Isn't it all about dosage? And each psych can be as intense or as tame as one wants?
     
  9. Mr.Writer

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    It's true that it's all related to dosage, it's just taken as a comparison of ("standard dose of Drug A" with "standard dose of Drug B". So like, 1-2 hits of acid = 2-4g mushrooms? i believe the vast majority of acid users have never taken more than 2 or 3 hits.
     
  10. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    LSD - cerebral
    mushrooms - emotional
    peyote - sensational
     
  11. L.ifes S.ubliminal D.ream

    L.ifes S.ubliminal D.ream Member

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    lsd - you trip
    mushrooms - you trip
    mescaline - you trip

    there
     
  12. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    What happened to "mescaline, cleanest most visually organized trip ever?"
     
  13. L.ifes S.ubliminal D.ream

    L.ifes S.ubliminal D.ream Member

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    well its is

    im just not trying to categorize the 3 drugs into different categories, they are all hallucinogens

    i see the same visuals and patterns on all three

    your brain trips the same way each time
     
  14. moosemoose

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    I haven't tried mescaline, but,


    True, LSD is a "cleaner" trip, in that what you feel is mostly in your head and you don't get physically sick and gassy like you do on shrooms.

    But to me an LSD trip is almost like a very accurate "trip simulator". It's a synthetically produced molecule that reacts to certain brain receptors and opens those chemical-doors of your mind. To me the trip feels intellectual, like applying a super-charger, or the much-referenced magnifying glass to my brain.

    Shrooms feel like a very natural experience. They ARE a very natural experience. The fungus brings me in contact to this very, very ancient part of myself. A part much, much older than my physical body. They bring me into harmony with all life, with the oneness of the universe.

    In a nutshell:

    LSD understands by Seeing.

    Shrooms understand by Being.
     
  15. inthydreams911

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    Im really curious is to how a large dose of mescaline is. I ordered some san pedro to give it a try.

    Last I remember of mecaline, it was sort of inbetween mushrooms and acid, really really clear visuals. It was easy to stay on track, there seemed to be a guide to your thoughts. Everything just looked so amazing though, when you focused on an object, it would be like extremely sharp super clear ultra vision.
     
  16. L.ifes S.ubliminal D.ream

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    yea the mescaline felt a lot easier to trip on, i had the worst experience possible on it but it was still amazing. no bad vibes at all. i miss it, i wanna go out west and find some
     
  18. kokujin

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    I think/know it's your imagination and not true but... can someone explain to me

    Does your eyesight get better, or more detailed or something under the influence of LSD, or is your brain simply adding things and magnifying details that weren't necessarily there?
     
  19. dandandan01

    dandandan01 Banned: Underage

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    Awesome explanation.
     
  20. inthydreams911

    inthydreams911 Senior Member

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    Your eyes take whats coming in, but your brain interprets the message. When you trip your brain starts interpreting it differently, being interrupted by the shrooms, your brain starts mixing functions together. What your seeing and what your thinking get mixed together, so you are literally seeing whats on your mind.

    I don't know why, but when tripping, things look extremely clear, like you just put a set of new glasses on. Possibly from how the clarity of the brain results in the clarity of the visuals, or just higher perceptions are woken up. Sometimes I feel as I am not staring through my normal eyes, but through some invisible esp eyes. It is hard to say.
     

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