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#1 mortysmate

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Posted April 26 2009 - 05:34 PM

for those of you trying to get off an opiate dependency, i want to share my story. I spent about eight years addicted to Vicodin, then Oxycontin, suboxone etc. I would chart out a tapering schedule and go through misery until it became unbearable, then use again. I had hidden this from my wife, who thought i just kept getting bad flu every few months. one day she found my pills. The next day we were in a meeting with the Waismann method, a rapid detox institute in LA. A few days later i left their hospital facility clean!! i had spent years trying to rid myself of this horrible dependency, and they did it like magic. I do not work for them but am a former patient and, if youre ready to reclaim your life, i suggest you give them a call..

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Posted April 26 2009 - 06:05 PM

can they help me with chronic masturbation?








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#3 SpENS93

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Posted April 26 2009 - 06:36 PM

Lol^

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Posted April 27 2009 - 07:17 AM

what about my addiction to spam?

man i love that meat (if it even is meat)
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Posted April 27 2009 - 03:28 PM

i) love spam!! (posting)

like this one

#6 mortysmate

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Posted May 02 2009 - 10:37 PM

wow- for supposedly hip people there sure seems to be a few cynics amomgst us:) The fact is i am an ex-patient and my experiences are valid. Hopefully some people who may actually benefit from the additional infomation my experiences described read my post..Knowledge is power, after all. Its somewhat dissapointing that when one mentions a really positive outcome, some witty denegraders seem inspired to cheapen it with their own projections of suspicion as to it's inherant sincerity. However, my only agenda is in sharing and hopefully helping someone make informed choices. i guess that even in a forum that supposedly espouses non-jugemental openness there is still room for cynical negativity..However, opinions do not alter the validity of my original statement. The fact is i am extremely grateful to the Waismann Method for what i feel was a life-saving procedure, but if you want to denegrade my salvation into spam, then so be it. Perhaps thats more enlightening as to your outlook than to the reality of my situation:toetap05:

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Posted May 02 2009 - 10:57 PM

What the hell are you even talking about...... In further posts you might just want to say what the F your talking about without trying to sound so freaking smart.

Were all just normal people here, you would have better success talking like a normal human being..... Not act like a superior person just cause you got clean...

Your motives are good, I understand you just want to help.... but just speak like a normal person please.
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Posted May 02 2009 - 10:58 PM

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Posted May 02 2009 - 11:00 PM

wow- for supposedly hip people there sure seems to be a few cynics amomgst us:) The fact is i am an ex-patient and my experiences are valid. Hopefully some people who may actually benefit from the additional infomation my experiences described read my post..Knowledge is power, after all. Its somewhat dissapointing that when one mentions a really positive outcome, some witty denegraders seem inspired to cheapen it with their own projections of suspicion as to it's inherant sincerity. However, my only agenda is in sharing and hopefully helping someone make informed choices. i guess that even in a forum that supposedly espouses non-jugemental openness there is still room for cynical negativity..However, opinions do not alter the validity of my original statement. The fact is i am extremely grateful to the Waismann Method for what i feel was a life-saving procedure, but if you want to denegrade my salvation into spam, then so be it. Perhaps thats more enlightening as to your outlook than to the reality of my situation:toetap05:


This whole paragraph reminds me exactly how people at AA meetings talk. :puke:
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Posted May 02 2009 - 11:02 PM

some people can be fucking stupid. there is nothing wrong with wanting to be clean. im not in a rush to be clean but have an open mind. jesus christ.
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Posted May 02 2009 - 11:07 PM

some people can be fucking stupid. there is nothing wrong with wanting to be clean. im not in a rush to be clean but have an open mind. jesus christ.


ya there is no problem with people trying to get clean, Im all for it.... not dissing that at all....
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Posted May 03 2009 - 07:55 AM

I've been to treatment, and I live with a counselor (THAT can be fun some days), and so I'm fully well aware of the treatment options available to those of use who want to get clean. HOWEVER (you like that word, I noticed, so see what I did there? I used it for you. I have a degree too) this forum is really not the place for it, and using the name of the facility in which you found your enlightenment is considered spam, not your espousing or embracing the new lifestyle you woke up to after your rapid detox.

I've had conversations with lots of people who've had ultra rapid (I live in New York, anybody with $5 gs can get it done, but none of those places takes insurance); not to be a naysayer nor a cynic, but those who went for ultra rapid and did not follow up with meetings and counseling had a very high relapse rate. When addicts get clean, I truly believe (this is personal experience now) that they need a support network of fellow recovered addicts to help them stay that way.

Just my .02. I found NA and AA worked, if I ignored the snide people, worked the Book and kept my focus. Unfortunately for me, I got hurt and wound up back on the opiates.
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#13 mortysmate

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Posted May 03 2009 - 03:46 PM

thank you illcanabillyvanilly
and yes, i also totally think follow up meetings are imperitive to remain sober, absolutely agree dillygirl.
Im not gonna try and justify the way i speak either, other than to say it doesnt reflect me feeling superior to anyone..Bloody hell, someones threatened by my diction? come on..:rolleyes:

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Posted May 03 2009 - 03:47 PM

oh, i dont have a degree either

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Posted May 03 2009 - 04:00 PM

wow- for supposedly hip people there sure seems to be a few cynics amomgst us:) The fact is i am an ex-patient and my experiences are valid. Hopefully some people who may actually benefit from the additional infomation my experiences described read my post..Knowledge is power, after all. Its somewhat dissapointing that when one mentions a really positive outcome, some witty denegraders seem inspired to cheapen it with their own projections of suspicion as to it's inherant sincerity. However, my only agenda is in sharing and hopefully helping someone make informed choices. i guess that even in a forum that supposedly espouses non-jugemental openness there is still room for cynical negativity..However, opinions do not alter the validity of my original statement. The fact is i am extremely grateful to the Waismann Method for what i feel was a life-saving procedure, but if you want to denegrade my salvation into spam, then so be it. Perhaps thats more enlightening as to your outlook than to the reality of my situation:toetap05:



not threatened at all, But this paragraph makes not friggen sense at all.
Im just saying if you want people to relate with you talking like a religious leader or a politician does not work.

we thought your first post was spam, then you come back with this garbage..... Im just saying your not very good at communicating with people on normal terms.
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Posted May 03 2009 - 04:03 PM

Just talk like a normal person with normal life experiences and you will have much more success around here... Just a little advice.
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Posted May 03 2009 - 09:23 PM

that paragraph makes sense to me, i think thats pretty interesting way of getting sober. this is an opiate forum, if someone wants to share something opiate-related, why do you got to shit on them?
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Posted May 03 2009 - 09:38 PM

why would you spend a few grand to get knocked out on some gas to kick drugs..
When you can do the same thing with Dust-Off yourself, for about 20 bucks..:leaving:


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Posted May 03 2009 - 09:52 PM

that paragraph makes sense to me, i think thats pretty interesting way of getting sober. this is an opiate forum, if someone wants to share something opiate-related, why do you got to shit on them?


Im not shitting on nobody... I just dont like it when people are trying to sound smart and end up making no sence at all.
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Posted May 04 2009 - 03:15 AM

why would you spend a few grand to get knocked out on some gas to kick drugs..
When you can do the same thing with Dust-Off yourself, for about 20 bucks..:leaving:


WTH is Dust Off. Off to Google I go.

Edit: CANNED AIR? You're effing kidding right?
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Posted May 04 2009 - 03:22 AM

thank you illcanabillyvanilly
and yes, i also totally think follow up meetings are imperitive to remain sober, absolutely agree dillygirl.
Im not gonna try and justify the way i speak either, other than to say it doesnt reflect me feeling superior to anyone..Bloody hell, someones threatened by my diction? come on..:rolleyes:


I'm not gonna try and justify the way I speak, either, other than to say it doesn't reflect my feeling superior to anyone. Bloody hell, someone's threatened by my diction? Come on.:rolleyes:

You had grammar, spelling and usage errors. I fixed 'em for ya. No need to thank me. :seeya:

Please note: this post is not meant to be malicious. This post is merely a reflection of Dillygirl's silly sense of humor and her pathological need to keep things friendly in the forums due to her personality profile "caretaker," not found in the DSM-IV but discussed at length in self-help groups.

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Posted May 04 2009 - 05:25 AM

I'm not gonna try and justify the way I speak, either, other than to say it doesn't reflect my feeling superior to anyone. Bloody hell, someone's threatened by my diction? Come on.:rolleyes:

You had grammar, spelling and usage errors. I fixed 'em for ya. No need to thank me. :seeya:

Please note: this post is not meant to be malicious. This post is merely a reflection of Dillygirl's silly sense of humor and her pathological need to keep things friendly in the forums due to her personality profile "caretaker," not found in the DSM-IV but discussed at length in self-help groups.

That'll be all.


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Posted May 04 2009 - 07:18 AM

I like to help people. It's what I do.
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Posted May 04 2009 - 08:49 AM

WTH is Dust Off. Off to Google I go.

Edit: CANNED AIR? You're effing kidding right?

No Im not kidding, In a controlled setting,, Dust Off Is 99% similar to Anesthetic gas..

FORANE (isoflurane, USP), a nonflammable liquid administered by vaporizing, is a general inhalation anesthetic drug. It is 1-chloro-2, 2,2-trifluoroethyl difluoromethyl ether, and its structural formula is:

Chlorodifluoromethane or difluoromonochloromethane is a hydrochlorofluorocarbon Its in this family of Gasses.. Same properties as Chloroform and actions, Often overlooked by the unacknowledged due to other advances in medicine, its OLD WORLD MEDICINE.. Prolly something they would use in the early 1900's for mental health and addictions. IMO lost science technology, missused and concidered unsafe.. :(


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Posted May 05 2009 - 08:04 PM

Duster is fucking disgusting.

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Posted May 06 2009 - 09:55 AM

Im not shitting on nobody... I just dont like it when people are trying to sound smart and end up making no sence at all.



I think the paragraph made perfect sense and I, too, do not see why it is necessary to bust someone's balls over something insignificant. And also, I have never heard people in AA talk like that and I have been to probably more than 150 meetings in the last six years. But to the OP, I have gone through treatment centers and detox programs and unless I really WANT to stay clean then the chances of me using again within a few weeks is pretty high. If you went through detox to please your wife then you are going to be miserable. Like Dillygirl mentioned, the success rate from detox alone is probably 1% so you definitely need to learn how to live sober and you can do that by going to AA or NA meetings, hell, any kind of support group would work. I strongly suggest giving that a try if you plan on staying clean and sober for the rest of your life. The first time I went to treatment was for Oxycontin and I did not think the shit they were saying was true so I did 80mg the weekend after I got out and told myself I would only do it twice a month...I was jonesin' like a junkie the next day and what do you know, I was back in treatment within six months.



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Posted May 06 2009 - 03:08 PM

For F sakes all I was trying to say is that if op said "hey guys I tried out this treatment that worked out for me, you guys should look into it"..... and spoke like a normal person he would have more success. Instead he choses to make a spam post and counter with paragraph were he was more focuesd on sounding smart then actually making a point.
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Posted May 06 2009 - 03:11 PM

but I will apologize to the op cause I did not want to make this a big deal, I was just trying to make a point and this already has gone to far. Im done on this thread..... unless someone pisses me off of course.
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