Sativa vs. Indica still relevant?

I am now, finally, able to obtain hash "of different varieties" or strains. I'm just wondering if what makes a strain Sativa or Indica is still relevant when dealing with hash. If so, a 100% Sativa would sound insane and be very trippy at a hash level.

Also, I heard a gram of hash is about eight times potent as a gram of marijuana. Does this mean that a smoked dose is about .12 of a gram? And what is the range for oral hash dosages?

Peace and love,
Carlos

 

What makes you think sativas are so good? Indicas are overall MUCH better.And about your question, you could make sativa hash, but traditionally an indica domanent is used, because thats what is native to the hash making regions. As for potency, I'm sure it is 8 times as potent as some marijuana, but its also probably 16 times as potent as others. And generally hash made by the same methods doesn't vary much in potency like pot. Your first time smoking hash you want to treat it like REALLY good pot, and just test the waters first. Try breaking off a piece a little smaller than one of those lego heads, than work my way up from there.

 

first off, a DANK largely sativa strain will make you think sativas are so good. :sifone:

true, indica varities are typically used to produce hash in areas like Afghanistan, Pakistan, india etc

however, indicas are really only traditionally used because they tend to be loaded with essential oils and more of the resin glands that produce trichome rich buds. since they have more trichomes, and tend to be burly and oozing out resin, you can then use LESS bud to make the hash. therefore, it is really just because using indicas is cost-effective (remember, hash-making in these regions is a huge for-profit venture), and those indica varieties tend to just have a little more of what you want for making hash.


but, keep in mind that when your smoking a really heavy indica-dominant variety of hash- you are going to get a really intensely heavy body high, and a really thick and intoxicating high. now, if your smoking hash made from sativa dominant cannabis- your high is going to be a little lighter, head high and more uplifting.... so its really still just a matter of preference.

myself, im all about sativa. sativa, sativa, sativa. i enjoy smoking strains that leave me feeling clear, allow me to keep my focus/concentration, and dont put me in a deep, sedative couch-lock. but hey, to each his own :sifone:

i can definitely appreciate some dank ass burly indicas, but i cant smoke them throughout the day and expect to get any reasonable amount of shit done

 

I agree completely:cheers2:

 

+1 for sativa

God damn it, I miss Oaxacan Gold....

And Colombian gold, and Michoacan, and ....sigh.

Fucking drug war...


ZW

 

Yeah I agree.
Wasn't it nice when there was true variety in the different types of weed?
Now they have all these contrived labels and shit, yeah there are differences, but not like there were when shit actually came from different geographic locations. Like real Thai stick.
From my perspective weed varieties have really lost there uniqueness.
Now it tends to be just green or brown.
The kids nowadays don't have a clue and think we are the ones who are clueless.

 

What are you talking about? I feel sorry for you if you think weed varieties have lost their uniqueness, you must not have good sources.

 

He's talking about unique strains of Sativa.
They were cultivated for hundreds if not thousands of years by "pot doctors". Indigenous shaman type dudes...
The consistency of these strains was such that a connoisseur could identify the country, province or state territory where it was grown.
No one made up silly fucking names for pot like they do today.

There was a time when I considered myself a connoisseur of the Sativas of southern Mexico.

These strains are extinct now. After Nixons drug war took hold as well as other actions by the Mexican govt. against native people, the pot doctors ancient growing practices were not passed on. The pot fields that were not destroyed ( Remember "Paraquat"?)were left to go fallow...

Without the pot doctors, the remaining fields cross-pollinated themselves back into bunk shwag. The magical strains are lost forever...


Not too many growers today are willing to put in the time necessary to get a good pure strain of Sativa going. Sativa genetics tend to require a very long grow cycle. Up to 9 months to bud. Besides who's gonna give up the yields of Indica?
No one.
Best your gonna get is some cross-bred indica/sativa.

ZW

 

Oh yes the Thai stick...The holy grail of sativa!
I loooved that taste. And the buzz was the superb!
I remember Thai weed going to hell about 1980 or so though.
Nothing but low potency bush. And it got very expensive. No more stick.

When kids start in with these goofy names they got for weed now, I need fish hooks on my eyeballs to keep em from rollin' !:cheers2:

 

You see the problem is that you were not even on the planet yet when the different types which I am referring to were around.
So there is no way for you to understand what I am talking about. I don't mean that in a derogatory way, it's just the reality of it.
I know they have developed a lot of very potent strains, and there are differences. But honestly the differences are really very minimal compared to the differences of weed strains from yesteryear. I can confidently say that because I have had the privilege of having smoked it then and now. That my friend is a vantage point you do not nor will you ever have.As ZW said most of the real uniqueness has been bred out. Yeah they are stronger as far as THC content goes, but that ain't everything my friend. Stronger isn't always better.

 

Yes, back in our youth the names actually had significance. They told what part of the globe weed came from.

What these kids don't get is that they are falling victim to the commercialization and marketing of weed.
Seed stores need some type of hook too sell thier wares just like any other commercial vendor who is up against competition.

For me it's either really good, good, or shit. Either green or brown.
I notice some difference in different strains, but it really is more based on if it is an Indica or Sativa.
I been doing it so long I can tell whether it is Sativa or Indica just by looking and smelling.

 

I still feel you are letting nostalgia affect your judgments but I am not old enough to verify your claims. Why don't you develop a similar, unique strain then? Then you could send me some beans .

I have seen grow journals from some older, experienced growers who say they have kept strains such as Thai stick or Oaxacan Gold alive, so I'd like to know if you have any proof these strains are extinct as you say, and also some sources covering these "pot doctors" and their history, and what exactly made them extinct. It'll give me something to read when bored.

Anyways, I'm going to grow a couple of sativas next round. Thinking about Mekong Haze, it's a nice looking pure sativa.

 

If someone has kept these strains active great!
You obviously have taken some offense to what ZW and I have said.
Why?
I doubt that the original strains of sativas from south america and mexico are exstinct and that Thai stick, which is actually a very resinous Indica by the way, from which the strains used primarily for hash production in Asia and India were derived, are still around.
I guess a good analogy would be wine. There are wines that have a signature taste, bouquet, and color primarily due to where the grapes were grown and the wine was produced.
Weed used to be like that, now if it is good green potent bud, regardless if it's an Indica or Sativa or some varient thereof, it was most likely grown indoors and fed precise nutrients and all that.
If it is just commercial type weed grown in fields in south america or mexico anymore it has become just an amalgamation of strains that will produce the most for the least the fastest.

Honestly all the different strains that are out there now are abit over hyped. Like I said if I'm a seed vendor I have to come up with some gimmick to get you to buy from me and not someone else.
My hats off to the growers that have taken the time and effort to develop the stronger strains. The fact that they are stronger now than in the past I won't argue with.
But unfortunatly something special has been lost in the world of marijuana and I wish I had some Thai stick from '75 or some gold columbian from '78 to share with you and you would understand what we mean.
:cheers2:

 

I would continue to respond, but I can no longer stand to look at fuckeduptican's
extremely
offensive sig vid.

out.

ZW

 

Yeah I kinda wonder about that one as well.
Was a good movie, but as a sig pic in these forums

 

Moderators, isn't there anything about posting violence in these forums?

 

This is from the forum rules:
5.Obscene/Pornographic/Violent postings: Unless these contribute something useful to the discussions, they will be deleted.

Neuroptican I know this is a free speech site and you have the right to post what you want here within the guidelines, but that video clip is a bit much, don't you think?
And why would you want that depiction of someone getting viciously beaten associated with you? Is that the type of person you are, someone that glorifies violence?
It does kind of fly in the face of the overiding mood of this site don't you think?

 

No I didn't take offense, but I was admittedly upset that you are telling me there was some amazing weed once that I won't get to smoke :sifone:.


Anyways thanks for the info, I didn't mean to come off like an ass or anything. I want some Thai Stick, everything I've read makes it sound amazing.

 

I switch my sigs from time to time, so I will look to change it since it offends both of you. You are the first people to say something however, but I have no problem accommodating your requests. ZW, fuckeduptican? Come on, that was a lame little jab.

And to answer your question, I just thought it was a totally bad ass scene. Call it shallow, or glorification of violence, but my heart was pumping when Ray Liotta walked across that street towards those guys to lay down the law. It's really that simple.

 

Im calling this one bud Im harvesting "Lucifer's Lamb", Im gonna pull it on Halloween while slaughtering a rooster..