Posted December 27 2008 - 09:15 AM
Or do you recommend extracts to whole leaf?
edit: ok "popular lore" suggests the red vein is a stronger variety of kratom. i think i'll grab this.
Posted December 27 2008 - 04:48 PM
im lookin forward on getting a live plant and growing it :p
i heard it gives u totally better and different highs
Posted January 07 2009 - 07:57 AM
It looks BEAUTIFUL. The leaves are simply gorgeous! They are regular green "leafy" leaves like off any old tree, yet they are just a pleasure to look at. Perhaps on some level the plant calls out to be consumed and I am feeling that tug.
Googling preparations produced many different and sometimes conflicting reports, all methods of which had their share of glowing experience reports and failure reports. Therefore I will arbitrarily prepare it this way:
5g crushed dry leaves boiled in water for 15 minutes then drank. I wonder if I should filter out the leaves from the final solution or keep them in and ingest them? I will probably ingest them.
I'm starting with 5g because I've read reports of people having terrible reactions even at this low dose. If I take it well I will bump up to 10g next time.
Posted January 07 2009 - 08:00 AM
PM me Writer, I gurantee you will be much happier.
Posted January 07 2009 - 09:54 AM
10 minutes later could feel the most amazing thing; it felt like i had just drank a codeine extraction or something. Definite opiate buzz. I shoveled snow for 20 minutes, which was fun (normally isn't) and easy (normally isn't). Then I ran over to the video store and rented some movies. Lots of energy! Body high feels like 60mg codeine (sorry I can't put it in other opiate terms I haven't done anything but codeine for years).
There was slight stomach activity, some burping, and a general sense of "take it easy" from my body . . . I can definetely see nausea being a huge problem at high doses.
Very pleased overall. This is probably the best legal entheogen I've tried. Next on the menu (for tomorrow) is this + marijuana, and then I'll try 8g the day after.
Posted January 07 2009 - 09:56 AM
Wait until you try the F.S. liquid, man your in for a suprise :tongue:
Posted January 07 2009 - 10:14 AM
I also forgot to mention that it made me sweat nicely, which is always welcome and healthy. It is now T+ 60mins and I am also noticing difficulty concentrating and giddiness.
Posted January 07 2009 - 10:46 AM
Posted January 07 2009 - 10:51 AM
can you post a better vendor? cause iamshaman is the only place I've gotten kratom from. I'd like to try someplace new.
No, because even though this is a legal substance, it wont be for long.
Use the sites that advertise openly, the ones who dont, do so for a reason.
Posted January 07 2009 - 11:36 AM
it just is
Posted January 07 2009 - 01:38 PM
This first kratom dose was small because it was my first time ever, always good to do one control dose to rule out hypersensitivity, especially with bulk plant matter.
Posted January 07 2009 - 09:51 PM
Posted January 10 2009 - 02:42 PM
Much more bitter drink, even with 1tsp honey and 1tsp sugar was a bit nasty to drink but doable.
Strong relaxation, pupil constriction, photosensitivity, sedation, and euphoria. Think opiates minus the itch; it's quite good. This may also be due to dosage, but I found the effects were more mental than physical.
That is, with opiates, I get a powerful orgasm-like feeling in my whole body, in every nook and cranny and my toes feel like they are coming. With this it was more like that high went to my mind and I was just in bliss for 4 hours.
Posted January 12 2009 - 12:05 PM
feels exactly like opiates + weed does to me, which is the weed has less of an effect on thoughts, it almost keeps you sober in a way, while making you veeeeeeeeeery relaxed at the same time. Super chill, but less head high. I was also very clumsy, walking into things, stumbling, dropping shit, I lost one of my gloves on a walk (how do you lose a glove?)
just like opiates, i prefer kratom sans marijuana
Posted January 23 2009 - 01:50 PM
it just is
Posted January 30 2009 - 10:18 AM
Over the summer I bought the premium leaf from IAS a couple of times and was very pleased. Since then, I bought some more in the middle of fall and it was shitty. The effects were weak compared to the summer. The batch didn't even really look the same. Now I decided to give red vein a try and once again was disappointed.
Does potency vary by season? I cannot achieve the same effects that I was getting early summer. I don't get how some of you are raving about it when I'm getting it from the same vendor as you...
Posted January 30 2009 - 02:30 PM
it requires a little more attention
and doing that for 30 minutes is ideal
Posted January 30 2009 - 08:10 PM
Posted June 20 2009 - 07:46 AM
- From what I understand, you have to be very careful with boiling because you can destroy some of the necessary alks in the plant. I tried making tea for a while and the effects seemed to be milder than future experiments in OJ.
- If the leaf is crushed you just need to get it down. That can be done by putting in gel caps. Or, mix in OJ or Grapefruit juice, down it and follow with water (to get the taste out). The citric acid actually helps potentiate the kratom.
- Always take kratom on an empty stomach (at least 4 hrs since last eating anything). Otherwise, you won't feel a thing.
- Be very careful with extracts. A lot of people don't get as positive results as with plain leaf. And, they make your tolerance skyrocket very fast, which you obviously don't want. I've tried them a couple of times, but personally won't bother with them again.
- Don't do kratom too often. It is addictive. Best to limit it to once a week (or 2x per week at MOST)