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#1 Mr.Writer

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Posted December 27 2008 - 09:15 AM

Those who have done it, which is better: Whole Leaf Korth Kratom (Red Vein) or Private Reserve Kratom Leaf?

Or do you recommend extracts to whole leaf?

edit: ok "popular lore" suggests the red vein is a stronger variety of kratom. i think i'll grab this.

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Posted December 27 2008 - 04:48 PM

definitely reed vein. soak in water and drink & eat. or eat it, or hold it in your mouth and swallow
im lookin forward on getting a live plant and growing it :p
i heard it gives u totally better and different highs ;)
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Posted January 07 2009 - 07:57 AM

It arrived yesterday :)

It looks BEAUTIFUL. The leaves are simply gorgeous! They are regular green "leafy" leaves like off any old tree, yet they are just a pleasure to look at. Perhaps on some level the plant calls out to be consumed and I am feeling that tug.

Googling preparations produced many different and sometimes conflicting reports, all methods of which had their share of glowing experience reports and failure reports. Therefore I will arbitrarily prepare it this way:

5g crushed dry leaves boiled in water for 15 minutes then drank. I wonder if I should filter out the leaves from the final solution or keep them in and ingest them? I will probably ingest them.

I'm starting with 5g because I've read reports of people having terrible reactions even at this low dose. If I take it well I will bump up to 10g next time.

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Posted January 07 2009 - 08:00 AM

I recommend a better vendor.
PM me Writer, I gurantee you will be much happier.

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Posted January 07 2009 - 08:01 AM

kratom secretzzzz!1!!1



#6 Mr.Writer

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Posted January 07 2009 - 08:13 AM

LOL :D <3 will post later on results

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#7 Mr.Writer

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Posted January 07 2009 - 09:54 AM

Crushed leaves (5g) were added to boiling water, which almost instantly darkened. Low boil for 15 minutes. Filtered out leaves, added 1tsp honey. Consumed in 15 minutes. Not even close to being as bad as people say; it tastes like tea made from grass, only the slight bitter tang of clorophyl to mask.

10 minutes later could feel the most amazing thing; it felt like i had just drank a codeine extraction or something. Definite opiate buzz. I shoveled snow for 20 minutes, which was fun (normally isn't) and easy (normally isn't). Then I ran over to the video store and rented some movies. Lots of energy! Body high feels like 60mg codeine (sorry I can't put it in other opiate terms I haven't done anything but codeine for years).

There was slight stomach activity, some burping, and a general sense of "take it easy" from my body . . . I can definetely see nausea being a huge problem at high doses.

Very pleased overall. This is probably the best legal entheogen I've tried. Next on the menu (for tomorrow) is this + marijuana, and then I'll try 8g the day after.

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Posted January 07 2009 - 09:56 AM

You can already see, Im sure, that it is much more stimulating than most opiates, which is a plus in my opinion.
Wait until you try the F.S. liquid, man your in for a suprise :tongue:

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Posted January 07 2009 - 10:14 AM

Yes! Instead of wanting to just melt into my bed I want to go out and walk, even though it's the same opiate high. Quite novel.

I also forgot to mention that it made me sweat nicely, which is always welcome and healthy. It is now T+ 60mins and I am also noticing difficulty concentrating and giddiness.

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Posted January 07 2009 - 10:46 AM

can you post a better vendor? cause iamshaman is the only place I've gotten kratom from. I'd like to try someplace new.

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Posted January 07 2009 - 10:51 AM

can you post a better vendor? cause iamshaman is the only place I've gotten kratom from. I'd like to try someplace new.


No, because even though this is a legal substance, it wont be for long.
Use the sites that advertise openly, the ones who dont, do so for a reason.

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Posted January 07 2009 - 11:36 AM

I will try regular ol' Kratom leaf next time I buy it. I have 2gs of the 20x left, that I'm saving to combine with some bud. I'm surprised you got such good effect with only 5g! I'm not sure what 60mg codeine is like, I've never tried it, but my experience with the extract wasn't as strong as 30mg oxycodone.

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#13 Mr.Writer

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Posted January 07 2009 - 01:38 PM

60mg codeine is very weak. For legitimate pain relief people take 30-90mg at a time, so I'm talking very threshhold opiate high (even threshhold is lovely though :D)

This first kratom dose was small because it was my first time ever, always good to do one control dose to rule out hypersensitivity, especially with bulk plant matter.

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Posted January 07 2009 - 09:51 PM

For those of you who have tried the red-vine and premium leaf from IAS, which one would you recommend? The only experience I have with kratom from there is the premium. It is pretty good although it seems some batches are better than others. I'm curious about the red vine now.....
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Posted January 10 2009 - 02:42 PM

8g today, same method.

Much more bitter drink, even with 1tsp honey and 1tsp sugar was a bit nasty to drink but doable.

Strong relaxation, pupil constriction, photosensitivity, sedation, and euphoria. Think opiates minus the itch; it's quite good. This may also be due to dosage, but I found the effects were more mental than physical.

That is, with opiates, I get a powerful orgasm-like feeling in my whole body, in every nook and cranny and my toes feel like they are coming. With this it was more like that high went to my mind and I was just in bliss for 4 hours.

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Posted January 12 2009 - 12:05 PM

10g, same method, plus 1 bowl of marijuana.

feels exactly like opiates + weed does to me, which is the weed has less of an effect on thoughts, it almost keeps you sober in a way, while making you veeeeeeeeeery relaxed at the same time. Super chill, but less head high. I was also very clumsy, walking into things, stumbling, dropping shit, I lost one of my gloves on a walk (how do you lose a glove?)

just like opiates, i prefer kratom sans marijuana

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Posted January 23 2009 - 01:33 PM

I prefer everything sans weed :)
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Posted January 23 2009 - 01:50 PM

the tincture is definitely the shit. I still don't get the total body high and mind bliss of pharmaceutical opiates, but if I'm going to go out 14 - 18 drops gets me in a state of mind where I'm just content and socializing is a lot easier. the strongest impact i ever got from kratom was my first dose, 4 gs of the 20x. but i'm sure i've developed a tolerance since then since i've been a tad bit irresponsible with the tincture :D

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Posted January 30 2009 - 10:18 AM

I gotta say I'm kinda disappointed with the red vine. Just got some and made a tea with a little over 10 grams. Lightly boiled for 15 min and then drank. Effects were very minimal for me and tapered off quickly.

Over the summer I bought the premium leaf from IAS a couple of times and was very pleased. Since then, I bought some more in the middle of fall and it was shitty. The effects were weak compared to the summer. The batch didn't even really look the same. Now I decided to give red vein a try and once again was disappointed.

Does potency vary by season? I cannot achieve the same effects that I was getting early summer. I don't get how some of you are raving about it when I'm getting it from the same vendor as you...
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#20 Mr.Writer

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Posted January 30 2009 - 02:30 PM

don't just boil it like tea, the best way to do it is stand over it and stir it in the pot as its boiling, pressing gently on the leaves to ease the alkaloids out.

it requires a little more attention

and doing that for 30 minutes is ideal

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Posted January 30 2009 - 08:10 PM

I did press down on the leaves and stir. I also used the same leaves twice and squeezed them through the strainer to get all the liquid out of the leaves. I'm thinking about trying toss n' wash in a few days...
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Posted June 20 2009 - 07:46 AM

A few things about method:

- From what I understand, you have to be very careful with boiling because you can destroy some of the necessary alks in the plant. I tried making tea for a while and the effects seemed to be milder than future experiments in OJ.

- If the leaf is crushed you just need to get it down. That can be done by putting in gel caps. Or, mix in OJ or Grapefruit juice, down it and follow with water (to get the taste out). The citric acid actually helps potentiate the kratom.

- Always take kratom on an empty stomach (at least 4 hrs since last eating anything). Otherwise, you won't feel a thing.

- Be very careful with extracts. A lot of people don't get as positive results as with plain leaf. And, they make your tolerance skyrocket very fast, which you obviously don't want. I've tried them a couple of times, but personally won't bother with them again.

- Don't do kratom too often. It is addictive. Best to limit it to once a week (or 2x per week at MOST)