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#1 patHAOomg

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Posted September 16 2008 - 04:19 PM

I need some intelligent and honest feedback from anyone who is quite knowledgeable in the field of pharmaceauticals, like myself. If you don't know what you're talking about, then please don't reply to this and waste my time and yours. I would prefer feedback from an intellectual who has alot of experience in combining opiates and benzo's.

I have been prescribed lorazepam (ATIVAN), which is a benzodiazepine much like alprazolam, but not quite as strong. I am now prescribed Lortab 10's (10mg of Hydrocodone/500mg of Acetaminophen). I have mixed them at low doses (10mg of hydro and 1-2mg of lorazepam) with no problems when I was in pain and everything was gravy. I wasn't fucked up and I didn't really even feel anything at all, but I didn't feel bad and I wasn't in any pain. Now, I want to actually feel it and get good and fucked up. I'm in no pain and I just want to see what these two substances can do together...

I have a decent tolerance to opiates, especially oxycodone and hydrocodone. Not an insane tolerance, but a decent one. I need to take at least 20-25mg of Hydro to feel a small buzz and at least 15-20mg of oxy to feel anything at all.

I was thinking about taking 20-30mg of hydro and 2mg of lorazepam together, for starters.

will that be safe?

Let me know what you think or what you would do.

Thanks for the help....

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Posted September 16 2008 - 04:57 PM

yeah thats fine.

Basically, just take a lower dosage for both opiates and benzos. For example, if your oxy tolerance is 80mg, take about 40-60mg of oxy when combining with benzos. Also, dont take more than 2mg of xanax. Im not sure about ativan, I never tried it.

My tolerance to oxy is about 80mg to get high, and I've mixed 2mg of xanax with 80mg of oxy.
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Posted September 16 2008 - 05:00 PM

you look like an intelligent person, so I'll spare you the lecture about how dangerous mixing opiates and benzos is. Just becareful man.
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Posted September 16 2008 - 05:06 PM

Yes, this will be safe. Considering you have a little tolerance to opiates, and you are perscribed to Ativan, so you are familiar with that, mixing them will be just fine. Just don't overdo it if you are worried. Maybe start out with a little less then what you plan on doing, and working yourself up each day, just to make sure you are comfortable with the combination of the two.

Be safe, and let us know how it goes.

Also, kil0, I would compare Ativan to like a low-dose xanax replacement. I agree with kil0, take HALF of your normal doses of both, because the high is MUCH different when combining them, and work yourself up from there. I think you are completely fine though, as you are experienced with both. Most people who get their selves into dangerous predicaments have no tolerance to either of the drugs they are combining, or maybe just a tolerance to one, and get knocked on their ass from combining both. Since you are fairly experienced with both, you will be fine.

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Posted September 16 2008 - 05:10 PM

oh, i'm definitely careful, man. that's my whole purpose behind posting this thread is to get info from other people about how much they generally use when combining benzos and opiates. thanks for your help, seriously. i just want to find a good mixer dosage for my ativan because i know my tolerance for hydro will grow even higher the more i use it, especially now that i'm prescribed the shit. I'll be taking it every day along with my ativan.

i figure that eventually, i'll just have to settle with a dosage and keep it there, because i believe that's how people OD. They just keeping pushing the boundaries of getting fucked up until it's over. when you're dealing with a tolerance, you will eventually reach a point where the dosage it takes for you to get fucked up will just plain kill you. lol.

but thanks again for your help and your concern. it means alot. :)

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Posted September 16 2008 - 05:17 PM

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#7 patHAOomg

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Posted September 16 2008 - 05:18 PM

thanks U4IA!!!

And I actually went ahead with it and I feel great so far. i just took 2 10's and 2mgs of ativan. i figured i'd start off small and work my way up. then you posted this reply, which is weird because you told me to take it slow lol.

but thanks for the feedback. i'll keep you posted.

i enjoy this forum. especially when i don't get replies from absolute retards hahaha :)

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Posted September 16 2008 - 05:21 PM

no problem god.

eventhough I have the biggest problem finding opiates, Im grateful Im not prescribed anything. Thats what's kept my tolerance down, if not I'd be at u4ia's level, taking like 300mg of oxy a day. thats insane. atleast he's prescribed his shit too. Im confused by people who got like 120mg+ daily habbit, and are NOT prescribed anything. How the hell can they afford to pay for that shit??
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Posted September 16 2008 - 05:26 PM

Why are you trying to stop your heart?

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Why do you not read the complete thread and leave some worthless comment? There are plenty of people who are perscribed to Benzo's AND opiates at the same time, myself being one of them. It can be dangerous, but not at lower levels and if you are experienced with both substances, so please stay away from this thread.

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Posted September 16 2008 - 05:27 PM

thanks U4IA!!!

And I actually went ahead with it and I feel great so far. i just took 2 10's and 2mgs of ativan. i figured i'd start off small and work my way up. then you posted this reply, which is weird because you told me to take it slow lol.

but thanks for the feedback. i'll keep you posted.

i enjoy this forum. especially when i don't get replies from absolute retards hahaha :)


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Posted September 16 2008 - 05:34 PM

no clue, man. i'm the type that if i feel like my tolerance is getting too up there, i'll just stop everything but my lorazepam for a couple weeks. it sucks royal balls, but it's worth it by keeping my tolerance down. plus, i end up with a good bit of extra tabs that i can flip or just save. i would never let my oxy tolerance get past 50mg. there's no fucking way in hell. i can't even begin to imagine what the withdrawals from a 300mg habit must be like. insane indeed. i think i would die. and then wake up. and the fucking die again. haha. i mean, the most oxy i ever took was 90mg over like 10 hrs and i was next to death i believe.

i never have a constant connection for oxys anyway. i get roxy 30's once a month from a friend for free, but they only give me 10 of them, so i use them wisely. all in all, i realize that if i don't respect my tolerance, it won't respect me.

and XEXON, do me a favor... go fill your mouth with 3,000 cocks and shut the fuck up. if i wanted a reply like that, i would have just asked my fucking mom.

fucking cumchugging prick.

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Posted September 16 2008 - 05:36 PM

U4IA, thank you for being kick ass!!!!!! :):):):)

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Posted September 16 2008 - 09:56 PM

i would never let my oxy tolerance get past 50mg. there's no fucking way in hell.


Man, I said the same thing. I used a roxi and a half (45 mg) once a week for like 2 months, and eventually it started going up to where its at now, like 60-80mg. Trust me man, theres nothing you can really do about tolerance, especially if your taking painkillers everyday. my tolerance eventually went up and I only used once a week, usually on fridays or saturdays.

fucking cumchugging prick.


LMAO, Im gonna start using that. cumchugger, LMFAOOOO :smilielol5:
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Posted September 17 2008 - 01:09 AM

Whoa, kilo. Your tolerance can go up even if you only use once a week? Fuck me. My tolerance isnt too high, but im at the 40mg mark to feel good and I need about 60-70 to have a decent night. I was doing this 2-3 times a week and my tolerance went up fast so I decided to use only once or twice a week to drop it, but shit, if the tolerance keeps going up is the only way to drop it by stopping all together?
Sorry for being off-topic but im just curious.

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Posted September 17 2008 - 08:24 AM

Man, I said the same thing. I used a roxi and a half (45 mg) once a week for like 2 months, and eventually it started going up to where its at now, like 60-80mg. Trust me man, theres nothing you can really do about tolerance, especially if your taking painkillers everyday. my tolerance eventually went up and I only used once a week, usually on fridays or saturdays.



LMAO, Im gonna start using that. cumchugger, LMFAOOOO :smilielol5:


I think your build up of "tolerance" from doing something once a week is also attributed to the fact that you probably over time started pushing your limits to get ever so higher.. i think sometimes "tolerance" is mistaken for what you're now use to..

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Posted September 17 2008 - 08:40 AM

It's safe to mix them benzos and opiates, as long as you keep the dosage right. It can be dangerous if you take too much of one or the other.

One of the best buzzes I've ever had was 80mg of oxy, 200mg of tramadol, and 2mg of xanax. There's no telling what would've happened to me if I had eaten as much xanax if I wanted to that night. lol

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Posted September 17 2008 - 09:19 AM

I think your build up of "tolerance" from doing something once a week is also attributed to the fact that you probably over time started pushing your limits to get ever so higher.. i think sometimes "tolerance" is mistaken for what you're now use to..


LOL nah man, trust me. You can ask u4ia how fuckin hard it is for me to find opiates. So for the millisecond that I had the connect for roxi30s, I would buy like 10 for 100 and I'd have to make those 10 last as LONG as POSSIBLE. Which meant doing once a week. I first started with 1 roxi, like 2 weeks later, 1 roxi didnt do it so I'd do 1 and a half roxis. And that worked out great for a while, like two months, all I needed was minimum 45mg and I felt great. But eventually my tolerance went up, and I'd do 45mg and it was a half-ass high, like I'd have a buzz but I knew if I did another 15mg it would be complete. and so on, until one night I reached like 105mg because I had used the day before and I got in a big ass fight with my family. I almost killed my little brother for stealing from me.

and from that night forward, that roxi and a half turned to 3 roxis a week (90mg). and Thats pretty much where it stayed until I wasnt able to find anything for a while. Then I came up on some OC80s, and I'd do 1 80 and be in heaven. I havent done opiates in like a month and a half, so Im hoping maybe 60mg will get me high, but my tolerance is probably still around 80.

Whoa, kilo. Your tolerance can go up even if you only use once a week? Fuck me. My tolerance isnt too high, but im at the 40mg mark to feel good and I need about 60-70 to have a decent night. I was doing this 2-3 times a week and my tolerance went up fast so I decided to use only once or twice a week to drop it, but shit, if the tolerance keeps going up is the only way to drop it by stopping all together?
Sorry for being off-topic but im just curious.


dont worry about it bro, its a great question. and the answer isnt too good. Yeah man, the only way to get your tolerance to drop is stopping completely for a while, ateast 2-3 weeks, a month if you can. and then still, atleast for me, my tolerance would only go down by like 20mg.
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Posted September 17 2008 - 10:07 AM

i tell you what i did a half of vicoden ten (5mgs) and half a xanax (.5mgs) and had a beer or two with some bong packs and i was fucked up nicely. Granted i dont do as many pharms as i used to so my tolerence isnt very big.

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Posted September 17 2008 - 10:23 AM

so tell me somethin quick.. Is Suboxone shit? or is it worth doing? its used for opiate addiction so is it like methadone or what?

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Posted September 17 2008 - 11:03 AM

so tell me somethin quick.. Is Suboxone shit? or is it worth doing? its used for opiate addiction so is it like methadone or what?


You won't be getting high from Suboxone like you do Methadone. Save it for people who really need to get off opiates, as that is what it's best for.

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Posted September 17 2008 - 12:59 PM

I didnt even know you could get high off suboxone...
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Posted September 17 2008 - 07:32 PM

Man, you guys have given me some nice feedback and it is very much appreciated! :)

I have another question.... Does anyone ever feel bad for using opiates and/or benzos to get fucked up?

I mean, I enjoy the euphoria and warmth that I get from them as well as the peacefulness that helps me fall asleep. As a matter of fact, I think the word "enjoy" is a total understatement. I am in LOVE with opiates. I think another member said it best in another post from a while back. I don't know who it was, but they said it was like laying in your mother's lap as a child. Everything is completely perfect. No Stress, no worries, just absolute peace & comfort in every way.

But for some reason, I feel bad for using them. Like I'm a junkie or something, or like it's against God or morally wrong in some bizarre way. I mean, I don't even take much at all compared to a lot of users who damn near kill themselves with every dose, yet I still feel terrible about my addiction and I have these overwhelming urges to quit every time I dose.

Does anyone else feel like this?

I mean, maybe it's just me.

But in all honesty, what I'm doing isn't that wrong if you look at it from a logical standpoint. I mean, there are people killing and raping other people, raping babies, stealing from each other, sodomizing each other in prisons, etc. etc. all over the world every day. I'm just trying to enjoy life and relax after a hard day's work every day by popping a couple pills and watching a movie or listening to some Above & Beyond (:)U4IA:)). I don't see how this could be considered bad amidst all the injustice and fucked up shit that happens throughout the entire world every single day.

Maybe I just need to chill out and not worry about it.

I don't know.

But I do know that I took 3 10's tonight along with 2mg of lorazepam and I feel wonderful right now :)

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Posted September 17 2008 - 07:34 PM

I'd feel bad if i was taking them from someone who truely needed them.. and well on that note.. i never do such a thing so no.. i don't feel bad..

i feel bad for the people who i have to purchase painkillers from me for personal use though.. but.. gotta make paper

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Posted September 18 2008 - 09:11 PM

Man, you guys have given me some nice feedback and it is very much appreciated! :)

I have another question.... Does anyone ever feel bad for using opiates and/or benzos to get fucked up?

I mean, I enjoy the euphoria and warmth that I get from them as well as the peacefulness that helps me fall asleep. As a matter of fact, I think the word "enjoy" is a total understatement. I am in LOVE with opiates. I think another member said it best in another post from a while back. I don't know who it was, but they said it was like laying in your mother's lap as a child. Everything is completely perfect. No Stress, no worries, just absolute peace & comfort in every way.

But for some reason, I feel bad for using them. Like I'm a junkie or something, or like it's against God or morally wrong in some bizarre way. I mean, I don't even take much at all compared to a lot of users who damn near kill themselves with every dose, yet I still feel terrible about my addiction and I have these overwhelming urges to quit every time I dose.

Does anyone else feel like this?

I mean, maybe it's just me.

But in all honesty, what I'm doing isn't that wrong if you look at it from a logical standpoint. I mean, there are people killing and raping other people, raping babies, stealing from each other, sodomizing each other in prisons, etc. etc. all over the world every day. I'm just trying to enjoy life and relax after a hard day's work every day by popping a couple pills and watching a movie or listening to some Above & Beyond (:)U4IA:)). I don't see how this could be considered bad amidst all the injustice and fucked up shit that happens throughout the entire world every single day.

Maybe I just need to chill out and not worry about it.

I don't know.

But I do know that I took 3 10's tonight along with 2mg of lorazepam and I feel wonderful right now :)


Hi People, I have a question for any takers..
I have been reading threads about people nodding from oxys.I think thats the word used.
I used to take 80-120 mgs a day.And I didnt nod,Hell I was superwoman..It was great.I loved them but they didnt like my wallet (120 bucks every 7days).The withdrawls sucked so bad.Had to be medicaly detoxed.But I loved them.So whats the nodding???
Thanks.

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Posted September 18 2008 - 09:29 PM

nodding is where you are sitting there and you keep basically drifting off into some sort of sleep state without even knowing it. minutes go by like seconds when this happens. it is wonderful. in every way.

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Posted September 18 2008 - 09:49 PM

Nodding is awesome. Especially if someone is there watching you, and when you come back, they are just sitting there laughing, haha.

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Posted September 20 2008 - 12:32 PM

hey there, i'm new..so hello :)

i take 20 to 30 mg of oxycodone a day plus 80-120 mg of percocet for nerve damage i have from surgery. i'm out right now, due to stupidity and i am taking some hydromorphones 6mgs and was wondering how codeine contin would mix 100mg of codeine contin? should i break up the codeine? any help is much appreciated. love. xo

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Posted September 20 2008 - 01:58 PM

I have no fucking clue in hell what you're talking about....

no offense, just being honest.

jesus christ.

maybe it's me...

but what the holy fuck is codeine contin?

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Posted September 20 2008 - 02:09 PM

I have no fucking clue in hell what you're talking about....

no offense, just being honest.

jesus christ.

maybe it's me...

but what the holy fuck is codeine contin?

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I am right there with you, I have no clue what she is talking about. Also, whatever doctor has you on 12 percocets a day (120mg of "percocet" as you put it) they are insane loading you up with that much Acetaminophen.

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Posted September 20 2008 - 02:16 PM

:iagree: 150%