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#1 navajas

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Posted July 27 2008 - 02:57 AM

im in canada right now n im planning on staying there for 10 days, so i wanna buy all my stash today. an ounce of weed, an 8ball of coke, and a bundle of heroin? how much exactly is a bundle? is the amount of drugs i plan on buyin enough to last 10 days? i havent done anything for a year now so my appetite n tolerance is very low. when i go back home its gonna be another whole year drug free until next year when summer comes. i only get high in vacations.
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#2 MrBDNice

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Posted July 27 2008 - 04:53 AM

10 .1 bags. if they are stamps.

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Posted July 27 2008 - 06:48 AM

how much is in a stamped bag?
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1 Fat ass rail of ketamine
+ a couple Magic Hat #9's
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Posted July 27 2008 - 10:09 AM

.1 , a bundle is 1 gram i believe
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Posted July 27 2008 - 10:27 AM

about how many mgs of oxycodone would be equivalent to to a stamped bag(0.1g) of h? I know it depends on purity and all of that, but on average? How much H do you need to do to get high, for someone with average opiate tolerance?
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Posted July 27 2008 - 10:33 AM

depends on way of ingestion... however i always start with a tiny bit, 0.1g is good, less is even better... thats the problem with heroin, purity differes alot, always stay on the safe side n do tiny bits n up the dosage if u need to. if u wanna play it safe theres no other way...
Ultimate high as defined by -beatnick:
1 bag of heroin sniffed
2 decent rails of raw cocaine
2 hits of highest purity liquid LSD
1 hit of a g lady
1 Fat ass rail of ketamine
+ a couple Magic Hat #9's
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Posted July 27 2008 - 10:36 AM

really a bundle is only 1g? how much does a bundle of relatively good white heroin last someone with no tolerance?
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2 decent rails of raw cocaine
2 hits of highest purity liquid LSD
1 hit of a g lady
1 Fat ass rail of ketamine
+ a couple Magic Hat #9's
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Posted July 27 2008 - 11:09 AM

depends on way of ingestion... however i always start with a tiny bit, 0.1g is good, less is even better... thats the problem with heroin, purity differes alot, always stay on the safe side n do tiny bits n up the dosage if u need to. if u wanna play it safe theres no other way...


method of ingesting is snorting. I need a whole 80 of OC at once to get high, and maybe even a little more. So a .1 of heron would get me high?

how much is a .1 bag of h? ten, twenty bucks?
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Posted July 27 2008 - 01:39 PM

i dnt do oxys so i dnt knw how hey differ from heroin dosage wise. however what id do if i was u is get a stamped bag, snort some of it n see what happens. not dying is worth getting high gradually instead of at once.
Ultimate high as defined by -beatnick:
1 bag of heroin sniffed
2 decent rails of raw cocaine
2 hits of highest purity liquid LSD
1 hit of a g lady
1 Fat ass rail of ketamine
+ a couple Magic Hat #9's
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Posted July 27 2008 - 03:42 PM

It lasts according to how you take it. You could make it last 5 days pretty easily though.

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Posted July 27 2008 - 06:01 PM

It lasts according to how you take it. You could make it last 5 days pretty easily though.


seriously?

Nick, I think you've tried both heroin and oxycodone. How much H would an 80 of OC be comparable to?
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Posted July 27 2008 - 07:26 PM

Heh, I've never actually done 80mgs of oxy, but from what my friends have said the bags we were getting were like an equivalent to an 80. For 10-20$!!! Its madness really, its like the cheapest drug right behind acid I think. But yea, thats also basically why I said "fuck oxy" when I can get this for less than 1/2 the price and get more fucked up. And I think thats also something that gets a lot of people.

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Posted July 27 2008 - 11:24 PM

seriously?

Nick, I think you've tried both heroin and oxycodone. How much H would an 80 of OC be comparable to?



an adverage bag of dope is equivlant to a name brand oc 80...thts just my opinon though...

(THIS WHOLE THEROEY IS PROBABLY WRONG)
i dont know if heroin being diacetylmorphine means its twice the strength of heroin, BUT IF IT IS and it was pure, .1grams(100mgs) of heroin would be equivlant to 133.3mg of oxycodone......cuz 100mg of heroin=200mg of morphine(in my fictional guesstimate) and 20mg of oxycodone= 30mg of morphine, which would mean 200 mg of morphine = 133.3mg's of oxy (THIS WHOLE THEOREY IS PROBABLY WRONG)

and now this whole theoey goes against my feelings that a bag=80mg of oc...

prices in the city 10 a bag, 80ish a bundle...suburbs 20 a bag 150 a bundle...but swim's gettig bundles for 120...



i thought bags were "scooped" in 30mg or 50mg spoons, meaning a bundle would weigh betweem .3 and .5 grams.

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Posted July 28 2008 - 11:25 AM

goddamn I never knew that one bag is that potent, I thought itd equal a 40 at most. How does the high compare when sniffing, and how long does it last?
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Posted July 28 2008 - 12:13 PM

the high is the same whether u snort, smoke or shoot. however what makes shooting much more euphoric is the rush. the rush of smoking follows the rush of shooting however its a waste of heroin. shooting gives u strongest rush n is so economical cuz u only use tiny bits. however its the most dangerous n addictive way of ingestion. snortin is fuckin amazing but theres no rush, but who cares? the high is still like no other, n its the safest way. actually snorting heroin doesnt differ much from snorting oxys, except that it puts u in a more dreamy state.
Ultimate high as defined by -beatnick:
1 bag of heroin sniffed
2 decent rails of raw cocaine
2 hits of highest purity liquid LSD
1 hit of a g lady
1 Fat ass rail of ketamine
+ a couple Magic Hat #9's
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Posted July 28 2008 - 01:49 PM

well, swim has an opiate tolerance that is probably less than the average one. he would snort 40mg's of oxy and get high. from his experience, 0.1g of heroin would be enough to last a few hours of redosing. with one whole bag being equivalent to about 80-120 mg's of oxy

#17 navajas

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Posted July 28 2008 - 02:08 PM

id get the pot, coke n smack in a minute, if only i could get my hands on quaaludes and lsd too. its sad that 2 of my list of favourite 5 drugs r sooo hard to find. i can get ecstasy, ketamine n meth anytime but im not into them.
Ultimate high as defined by -beatnick:
1 bag of heroin sniffed
2 decent rails of raw cocaine
2 hits of highest purity liquid LSD
1 hit of a g lady
1 Fat ass rail of ketamine
+ a couple Magic Hat #9's
:cheers2:

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Posted July 28 2008 - 07:08 PM

God, to only try Quaalude's, I would... Well lets not go there.

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Posted July 29 2008 - 04:59 AM

hehe same here, ive never tried it but im pretty sure im gonna love it. cuz im a downer kinda guy n benzos r kinda boring. i heard that quaaludes r still sold in south africa under the name mandrax. plus quaaludes belong to the to the list of rock n roll drugs heroin and cocaine. basically when acid n pot where out, n the summer of love ended n the manson murders came everyone was strung out on cocaine, heroin and quaaludes. these 3 along with pot r kieth richards favs too lol...
Ultimate high as defined by -beatnick:
1 bag of heroin sniffed
2 decent rails of raw cocaine
2 hits of highest purity liquid LSD
1 hit of a g lady
1 Fat ass rail of ketamine
+ a couple Magic Hat #9's
:cheers2:

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Posted July 29 2008 - 06:26 AM

Mandrax links:

http://www.urbandict...hp?term=mandrax

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Methaqualone
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Posted July 29 2008 - 10:04 AM

Good post I came back to first time signing on in over week anyways from my knowledge and from my test I have done over the years form Bags of dope in New York city and upstate New York A Bundle is sapose to be equal to a gram like a few have said on hear the average stamp bag is sapose to be .1 ? But as we all know thats bull shit.Just look at your average bundle some bags are packed big some are small. Same thing with different stamped bags or from dealer to dealer. one block will have some bags that are huge but th shit is garbage others will have small bags but the shit rocks. Shit that bags of the Dope I got a few weeks ago The Hulk was crazy how different some of the bags were packed. Some looked double in size to the others. So in my best guess I would say the average bundle of dope of the street usally weighs anywhere from .7 up all the way up to 1.4 the average being about a gram though ????? And as for the whole how much dope is equal to a a 80mg OC-man does that question come up alot between people I have heard do many peole ask that question over the years. I would say whp knows you can only to a average becasue like I said Herion purity varies so much What I do know is this 2 things that might relate and help, Back in the day when I had a habbit and could not get a ride into the Bronx or the nearest local Ghetto town to buy a bag I had to buy OC's instead in my town, I was doing about 4 to 5 bags on the average of dope a day. one 80mg OC would only keep me straight for the morning up until mid afternoon and then I would start feeling a little like shit again. As for methadone they say you average bag of dope on the streets is 50% pure 15mg to 20mg's of Methaodne is equal to one bag of your average dope thats what most experts and clinics go buy ? And hear comes to whole purity thing into play again so in my opinion how can you go buy that like I said above purity from one stamp to another is hardly ever the same. Shit in New York and Philly the DEA did some test they would buy bags from dope dealers and spots all over and have them tested some bags purity was in the mid teens like 15% pure others were as high as 93% pure, So when it comes to OC's and comparing them to dope you really can't do it at all in my opinion you just have to go buy how much OC makes you feel good when using it. If you can't get sope and can only get OC's or ant other hard opiate pills I would say there is no exact amount to take that will equal your normal dope dose you will have to experiment to see yourself what makes you feel good ?????

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Posted July 29 2008 - 12:00 PM

exactly start with tiny bits increase gradually until u knw ur dose. i do it with every bag to prevent OD. btw shocbomb im stayin in a hotel for 10 days with a girl n all i wanna do is smoke weed n speedball. what shall i get to last me for 10 days? an ounce of weed, an 8ball of coke n a bundle of dope? do u recommend adding other stuff to enhance my drugs vacation? lol ecstasy? ketamine? dunno i only miss the classics hash, coke n dope... if only i could get some acid...
Ultimate high as defined by -beatnick:
1 bag of heroin sniffed
2 decent rails of raw cocaine
2 hits of highest purity liquid LSD
1 hit of a g lady
1 Fat ass rail of ketamine
+ a couple Magic Hat #9's
:cheers2:

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Posted July 29 2008 - 06:50 PM

Just my experience. I've been doing OC for about a year and raw (powder heroin) for about 6 months.

If you have a decent OC tol, raw wont hit you that hard at all. Compared to an 80, raw has maybe 1/3 the initial rush then it just goes away. I always feel like I need more and more. One .1 bag is like 15-20 dollars, but if you have a decent tol, especially if it takes 1 whole 80 to fuck you up, your gonna need proboly around 3-5 bags to feel it even compare to an 80. The only comparable effect I get is raw chills me out and if I do enough I get pretty fuckin noddy. But theres no crazy rush like you get snorting an 80.

The numbers arent all exact because purity varies but this is what I know personally.

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Posted July 29 2008 - 07:11 PM

i copped a shit load of blue wax bags in boston. their bomb. 2 bags had me noding off sunday. weighed less than .1 each too. 10 bags unbagged weighed .8. i can sniff a 80 in 1 sitting. and a shit load over a night.

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Posted July 29 2008 - 07:15 PM

and 15$ and 20$ a bag is rediculous. i pay like 450$ for 1000 bags of the best shit ive ever seen. and local garbage is 2/3 that price for a pack.

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Posted July 29 2008 - 09:26 PM

Just my experience. I've been doing OC for about a year and raw (powder heroin) for about 6 months.

If you have a decent OC tol, raw wont hit you that hard at all. Compared to an 80, raw has maybe 1/3 the initial rush then it just goes away. I always feel like I need more and more. One .1 bag is like 15-20 dollars, but if you have a decent tol, especially if it takes 1 whole 80 to fuck you up, your gonna need proboly around 3-5 bags to feel it even compare to an 80. The only comparable effect I get is raw chills me out and if I do enough I get pretty fuckin noddy. But theres no crazy rush like you get snorting an 80.

The numbers arent all exact because purity varies but this is what I know personally.

holy shit man. This is good to know thanks. I mean, I know I'll never know exactly until I try it because of purity and everyone has different tolerance, but atleast this gives me some sort of picture as to how they may compare.
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Posted July 30 2008 - 07:44 AM

an adverage bag of dope is equivlant to a name brand oc 80...thts just my opinon though...

(THIS WHOLE THEROEY IS PROBABLY WRONG)
i dont know if heroin being diacetylmorphine means its twice the strength of heroin, BUT IF IT IS and it was pure, .1grams(100mgs) of heroin would be equivlant to 133.3mg of oxycodone......cuz 100mg of heroin=200mg of morphine(in my fictional guesstimate) and 20mg of oxycodone= 30mg of morphine, which would mean 200 mg of morphine = 133.3mg's of oxy (THIS WHOLE THEOREY IS PROBABLY WRONG)

and now this whole theoey goes against my feelings that a bag=80mg of oc...

prices in the city 10 a bag, 80ish a bundle...suburbs 20 a bag 150 a bundle...but swim's gettig bundles for 120...



i thought bags were "scooped" in 30mg or 50mg spoons, meaning a bundle would weigh betweem .3 and .5 grams.


Nah oxy's like 2x as potent as morphine, I beleive.

it all depends on tolerance and purity.

You get good shit, and a bag is probably equal to 80MG oxy.

but, the thing is, someone with zero opiate tolerance would most likely die if they railed or shot 80MG oxy, and its not likely a bag of H would kill someone with no tolerance.

But hey, you never know, it all depends on purity, how much you weigh, you're tolerance. Theres no exact formula to how much Oxy=Morphine=Diamorphine.

There is, however, a conversion chart on how much pharmaceutical opiates equal to each other. lemme find it.

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Heres that site for more info on Opi conversions

http://www.globalrph.com/fentconv.htm

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Posted July 30 2008 - 09:39 AM

chrome Hound Dude I don't know what type of shitty cut to the gut Herion you are getting man but it does not take no 3 to 5 bags of your normal average dope atleast hear in the New York/New Jeresy area to equal 1 80mg OC, If any thing one bag of dope is usally stronger or almost equal to a 80mg OC. I mean if someone who was using 80MGs of OC's went out and took your advise and sniffed not shoot like you said 3 to 5 bags of dope thinking it was equal to a 80 OC they would probably OD or be real fucked up for a day or so. God Frbif they shoot up that much it would be almost certain they would die, even most hard core users doing over a bundle a day won't shoot over 2 bags at time. And the rush from shooting a OC has nothing what so ever on Dilaudid, I am not fucking with you I am just rying to let you know man if this is the kind of dope you are buying its time to get a new dealer or something becasue its more then likely more cut you are shooting up like Lactose, mannitol,baby laxative then Dope ?

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Posted July 30 2008 - 09:44 AM

yeah, that part I didnt believe. half a bundle equal to an 80? thats som crappy H.

damn man, I cant wait to go to north jersey in december, hopefully i'll be able to score dope easily. I cant find that shit no where in my hood down souf.
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Posted July 30 2008 - 12:18 PM

chrome Hound Dude I don't know what type of shitty cut to the gut Herion you are getting man but it does not take no 3 to 5 bags of your normal average dope atleast hear in the New York/New Jeresy area to equal 1 80mg OC, If any thing one bag of dope is usally stronger or almost equal to a 80mg OC. I mean if someone who was using 80MGs of OC's went out and took your advise and sniffed not shoot like you said 3 to 5 bags of dope thinking it was equal to a 80 OC they would probably OD or be real fucked up for a day or so. God Frbif they shoot up that much it would be almost certain they would die, even most hard core users doing over a bundle a day won't shoot over 2 bags at time. And the rush from shooting a OC has nothing what so ever on Dilaudid, I am not fucking with you I am just rying to let you know man if this is the kind of dope you are buying its time to get a new dealer or something becasue its more then likely more cut you are shooting up like Lactose, mannitol,baby laxative then Dope ?


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