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#1 Mynameisluke

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Posted July 04 2008 - 12:03 AM

do you think the united states will ever be taken over by another country or somehow whiped out?

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Posted July 04 2008 - 12:03 AM

i mean if rome can fall, couldnt the us
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Posted July 04 2008 - 12:03 PM

just don't shoot in your school, don't buy, sell, like a guns and e v e r y t h i n g will go more smoothly

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Posted July 06 2008 - 08:18 AM

no we wont fall, we will just all join into one economy

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Posted July 06 2008 - 08:38 AM

no we wont fall, we will just all join into one economy




this is correct,although it still would mean we lose our sovereignty thus we will cease to exist as a free and independent nation..


do you think the united states will ever be taken over by another country or somehow whiped out?


within 4 years we will cease to be a sovereign nation..this will be brought on by a combination of "terrorism" and a economic collapse..
the imminent collapse of the economy will become evident before next spring and the false flag terrorist attack will happen sometime next year.both events will lead up to the loss of our sovereignty some time between 2010 and 2012.

hows that for a time line?

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Posted July 06 2008 - 11:26 PM

I'm trying to clear my debt before things change. Hopefully that will increase my chances to not be enslaved by the MAN. Is anyone else trying to prepare themselves for the possible change?

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Posted July 06 2008 - 11:47 PM

don't know, don't care. wish they'd chainge the stupid name though. i pledge my alligience to the limitless diversity of an infinite universe with freedom from stress and mundaneness for all.

no i don't think it will be taken over and whiped out. whiped out what?

i think it will at some point, whether i live to see it or not, collapse of its own corruption though, as virtually all nations eventually do.

of what bennifit, of what greater good then harm, is even the very existence of super power governments in any form? no; i'd like to see the planet recaliamed by real people, places and things. reclaimed from self serving of nothing but the affinity of little green pieces of paper for more little green pieces of paper that has usurped the sacred earth itself.

but not by anyone killing or beating anyone else over the head either. that would be a waste of lives that would only solve anything for a generation or two, and unless the culture and its underlying perceptions became less self deceptive, would end up, as that sort of thing always does, right back where it started.

which essentially is what HAS happened to america anyway. it has become everything it was created to get away from. and why? because of the cultural values it lives by, that the majority of us live by without thinking about.

nature recycles everything though, and even today's social and economic corruption will perhapse in some way fertilize a better tommarow. AFTER its been composted!

as long as one person is punished for refusing to deceive themselves, no matter how "well off" they might otherwise be, nor how "worse off" anyone else might be, there is no other name for that then tyranny.

as long as the price of wealth is that kind of tyranny, and the cost of freedom is poverty, i'll take being poor and living without most of what other people take for granted as "having" to have, any damd day of the week.

and every idiology and economic theory there ever was can crawl up its own backside and the horse it rode in on too.

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#8 Harpo

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Posted July 08 2008 - 12:02 PM

Sorry to be pedantic, but if you're going to call somebody names because of their spelling prowess, try to start with "I'm" rather than "im"

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Posted July 08 2008 - 01:45 PM

just don't shoot in your school, don't buy, sell, like a guns and e v e r y t h i n g will go more smoothly


I find that logic to be warped. I completly agree with don't shoot up your school. But guns have been a part of peoples' lives for a few hundred years, and to get rid of them completely is ignorent. We need EDUCATION on them, not reduction, or more control. For example: 1 out of every 5 people in Texas own and/or carry guns. Texas also has one of the lowest crime rates in the nation.

I also second the fact that "Gun-Free Schools" are opening themselves up to tragady by NOT being able to DEFEND themselves. I know there are alot of arguments out there on that, and I have heard everything anyone could have to say on this subject, and have made my mind up.

And just to say, I am NOT a member of the NRA, nor do I, or have I ever, owned a gun. I have used guns before however, when hunting. I am just an advocate for people to be able to defend themselves if they need to! :)

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Posted July 08 2008 - 08:33 PM

America has already ceased to exist as a sovereign nation.


ever heard of thhe North American Union?


The NAFTA super-highway?
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#11 dark suger

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Posted July 08 2008 - 08:36 PM

we are now and forever america will always be and people need to understand that

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Posted July 09 2008 - 01:33 PM

we are now and forever america will always be and people need to understand that



How do you know?

The only constant thing in the Universe is change.


The United States of America, is, as of today, a broken and unsuccessful system, that shows no progress and is attempting to initiate World War III.


In my humble opinion, of course.

Dont you know what is happening in Congress?

go google the "Virtual Iran War Resolution"

They're talking about "tactical nuclear strikes"

What makes our country so great?

edit: The Virtual Iran War Resolution is known in Congress as House Congressional Resolution 362
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-Timothy Leary

Now when you meet these poor souls who are seeking to destroy—and there are many many of them on the World Wide Web, for they are able to get away with much (they think; they are not aware of how so many can feel their unlovingness), they feel they can get away with more because in person their unloving essence expresses itself more obviously, they think—do not make the mistake of polarizing toward them in a way that says "I will destroy you." Do not approach them with attack. Do not feed back to them unloving essence, for that is what they wish.

Beasst will bear your MARK of synthetic protection as their ELF GWEN plays Gaia's HAARP of sorrow.

#13 mykittyhasaboner

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Posted July 09 2008 - 08:09 PM

the working class will destroy America.

that is if Iran or NK dont beat them to it (sasrcasm):p
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Posted July 10 2008 - 01:14 PM

Working class destroy america?C'mon now--the only thing the working class has done here is build this place up from the very beginning and try to protect themselves from rich pricks that under pay ,cheat,beat organisers ,sometimes to death ,just to keep their heads "above water"when the rules are constantly changed on them.Research how and why unions were formed for self protectionand the responses gotten from their efforts.

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Posted July 11 2008 - 07:23 AM

i dont think the united states will be taken over.
i think it will just collapse from within

noone will take over... coz the rest of the world already hates you.
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Posted July 11 2008 - 07:40 AM

It appears to be collapsing now.

#17 Astrolog

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Posted July 11 2008 - 08:31 AM

Just read this:
http://www.welcomeho...hecy/hopi1.html

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Posted July 11 2008 - 08:39 AM

and more:
http://www.hopiland....phecy/dan-1.htm

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Posted July 11 2008 - 08:47 AM

come on astro,, ive been haunting rainbow gatherings since the early 80's,,, you do know that "prophecy" was made up around a campfire by a buncha fuckin hippies dont you??

EDIT:i see thats a long version with the made up parts mixed in with the actual prophecy,so its a half a prophecy..

lol

geeze dont be so naive,,. there are plenty of prophecies,,even one somewhat similar that actually is a hopi prophecy,,but it involves aliens not humans.. lol

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Posted August 09 2008 - 08:34 AM

taken over? no. self destruct? yes. when? who knows? but most probably when least expected to. in real life, it IS when least expected to that MOST things happen. at least most least expected to in and by popular perceptions.

(plus i neither know nor care how long america, or any other currently existing government is going to last. i just know that none of them are god's gift to the kind of world we all have to live in.)

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#21 LanSLIde

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Posted August 09 2008 - 09:31 AM

A hostile occupation of the U.S. would definitely fail horribly. The U.S. may expire it's funds, though, and collapse

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Posted August 24 2008 - 08:01 PM

i dont know about you, but most people i know, here in america, are self destructive.
So why not think that the country will self-destruct, if the people are already doing so on their own leisure time?

and the whole is only as good as it's parts.

#23 Peaceful River

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Posted September 01 2008 - 12:18 PM

Doubt it... But then again the government and the dang NRA is going to blow this Nation up with all the nukes and atom bombs... =\

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Posted September 03 2008 - 09:41 AM

alright, my guess would be self-destruction and anarchy, but ultimatly i really don't care. if it comes to the actual question "will america fall?" well duh eventually it willl just like everything else.
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Posted May 22 2012 - 05:14 AM

Are we there yet?
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Posted May 22 2012 - 05:21 AM

Almost...

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Posted July 06 2012 - 12:18 AM

america will be, and is, playing the key roll in its own future demise. no external invasion is likely to be a significant factor. environmental reality and deliberate ignorance there of, are far more likely to do so. (the timetable though, is a complete roll of the dice) a time may relatively soon come, when anyone still alive, will have more immediate and personal concerns, then to give a dam, whether ANY, nation stands or falls.

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Posted July 14 2012 - 05:28 AM

i can tell you how long it won't last, and that is for ever.

i can also tell you that the hand the will fell it is not external, nor is it liberal.

that which pretends to call itself conservative is the rot at the root, and the process of distruction, well there have been processes of distruction and construction going on side by side from the very beginning, but in the last 3 decades, the process of deconstruction has surged ahead. citizens united is perhaps all but the final nail in the coffin, though the corps still shows deadly signs of life.

really today's america IS a zombie of the america i grew up in. which was neither consrvative nor christion, but a 50/50 mix in each case. mccarthyism forshadowed todays doom. hitler blamed the jews, mccarthy blamed the marxists, and today its the muslims who are being scapegoated. in evey instance it was those who were doing the scapegoating and pointing the fingers who were really to blame for everything they pointed their fingers of acusation at anyone who clung to honesty and logic.

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and thank god i'm not quite human

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Posted August 23 2012 - 07:52 PM

I do feel that America as a country, as a government as well as its economical status will fall and is falling. I dont know that another country will take over however I do think that there are a select few of countries that could possibly take that position.
I think that America has gotten lazy and depend too much on foreign products, foreign manufacturing, always wanting someone else to do it for cheaper.
We have lost the motivation and that drive to provide for ourselves. If the jobs are not going over seas then they are being substituted with computers. Do people not realize that the population is growing not shrinking? More people means more people needing to do their part instead we give them ways to make excuses not to work and not to contribute. But thats a whole new soap box. Ultimately we will be our own downfall. We can stop it...but will we?

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Posted September 22 2012 - 03:17 AM

I do feel that America as a country, as a government as well as its economical status will fall and is falling. I dont know that another country will take over however I do think that there are a select few of countries that could possibly take that position.
I think that America has gotten lazy and depend too much on foreign products, foreign manufacturing, always wanting someone else to do it for cheaper.
We have lost the motivation and that drive to provide for ourselves. If the jobs are not going over seas then they are being substituted with computers. Do people not realize that the population is growing not shrinking? More people means more people needing to do their part instead we give them ways to make excuses not to work and not to contribute. But thats a whole new soap box. Ultimately we will be our own downfall. We can stop it...but will we?


you've got it 2/3rds right, but makework isn't the answer. we're not only throwing away our own self sufficiency, but robbing the rest of the world of being able to keep and develop theirs.

clearly this IS an unstable situation, and one that isn't going to be solved the way hitler attempted to either. by making a vassle of the rest of the planet.

but the hard way isn't, as you seem to imply, the only way.
there's nothing wrong with keeping people from starving, that's one of the few good things governments are for, as long as they can.

but of course they can't for ever. you're right that there's no output without input, but there's nothing wrong with mechanically easing the burden. only with easing it by robbing someone somewhere else.

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and thank god i'm not quite human

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