All About Tramadol (Ultram)

Discussion in 'Pharmaceuticals' started by Danny Havok, Apr 29, 2008.

  1. Danny Havok

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    I am brand new to this forums board but have discovered that very little seems to be known about Tramadol on here. Here is a general outline of this medication and its recreational usage. I am not a doctor but have years of experience under my belt with this pharmaceutical.
    I am 19 years old and, believe it or not, was first put on Ultram when I was 12 for kyphosis, an often painless back disorder. However, one type of Kyphosis is painful, this being the type that I have. Here are some things you need to know. Enjoy.



    TRAMADOL/ULTRAM GUIDE

    Meet Tramadol

    Tramadol is truly in a category of its own. It is true that Tramadol is a synthetic analog of codeine, therefore one could say that it is an opiate. However it doesn't act on the opiate receptors as strongly as normal opiates do. While opiates usually act on multiple Opiate Receptors, Tramadol works on one or very few. It is approximentaly 1/10 as powerful as morphine, effecting the receptor(s) less.

    Effects

    - Tramadol can produce effects on some people that are much more prefered than even opiates like hydrocodone, oxycodone, and morphine. Tramadol is weaker but it is known to give what I call an "Afterglow". This continues to happen to me to this day: 6-10 hours after dosing at least 250mg or more, this profound sense of happiness overcomes you. Your not physically impaired, just mentally happy. You slowly come off this feeling, I said come-off NOT "come-down". Come downs are shitty.. come off's are chill. It's funny really.. when I was at the peak of my Ultram use, where the effects seemed to greatest, it was almost like a low dose of MDMA.. you know where the X begins to kick in.. like first sinking in to bath of hot water. It's nice, I'm telling you. It will, however, effect everyone differently. I compare it to MDMA because of the mental sense of well being it brings. Not nearly that of MDMA but you get the picture. It usually kicks in about 30 min. to an hour after dosing. Tramadol also seems to impair one much less than regular opiates. Driving can still be dangerous, and I urge you to choose your decisions wisely.

    Tolerance

    - Tramadol can lose its magic after a few years but generally takes longer for the body to build a tolerance because its not slamming so many opiates receptors (like Hydro and Morphine). If you dose very high on a daily basis, it will lose its effect.

    Positive Euphoria

    - Tramadol is amazing in many ways. It brings an opiate buzz during first usage that at times can feel very well. It brings this mental concentration at times, and seems to raise one's mood. This buzz doesn't only just last during first usage but during the first year or two you will get the most out of it. Even after 9 yeras, it helps me stay emotionally balanced and refrains myself from experiencing sadness or despair on a general basis.

    Dosage

    - I currently take 6-9 Ultrams a day. This is considered high but believe it or not, I need this. I am prescribed 180 (50mg) pills a month. I suggest no one take this dosage unless absolutely neccesary. If your first months, don't pass up 250mg (or five 50mg pills in one day). Afterwards, its your call. I use to be on Heroin so my doc can't prescribe me opiates or I'll relapse. Ultram is considered weaker than opiates so it's all I got to manage my pain. And yes, it does a little bit more.

    Combinations with other Drugs

    - Tramadol can be a blast with other drugs. Do not take it with DXM though. This can really fuck up your serotonin. Taking it with other opiates seems to allow you to keep the mental effects of Tramadol and feel the physical euphoria of the combined opiate. I also take Adderall daily with the Ultram. They do effect each other, and personally, I love it. I get the focus and concentration of Adderall and this slight, very background-like opiate buzz with mental positivity and emotion. So its like this feel good, energetic concentration with euphoric emotion. Benzo's seem to have a stronger effect with Ultram but can also overpower you if your not careful. Keep it slow. The effects of Hullucinogens will be decreased if taking Ultram. As I said before, Tramadol (Ultram) acts like an SSRI (prozac) and blocks serotonin re-uptake. Fry and Boomers will not work as well if taken on the same day. I've done Ultram with about every drug out there, if you have any more questions, just ask.

    Seizures

    - Tramadol can cause seizures. I know this because I have had one. It acts somewhat as an SSRI (like prozac and zoloft) so if you are taking an SSRI, Do not take Tramadol. I was put on prozac when I was 17 and the first day I started, I woke up in my living room with 9 EMT's holding me down. You think your in a nightmare. Your body remains stiff for days.. you know when you work out or stretch your legs or arms? You feel the burn? That is a certain type of acid that is released into your muscles. During this seizure, all your muscles get flooded with this acid. The next day you feel like your body was hit by a train. All happiness is drained and stupidity of the mind is overwhelming. It took me 4-5 months just to get my short-term-memory 3/4 of what it was before. So remember this combo.. It can cause Serotonin Syndrome and trust me, I wouldn't wish SS on my worse enemies. It is hell on Earth.

    Withdrawals

    For me, Tramadol (Ultram) greatly reduces Opiate Withdrawals effects. If your coming of Heroin or OC, or any other opiate, try 3 Ultrams in the morning, and 3 in the afternoon. However, Tramadol is a double-edge sword in the category of withdrawal. WHile Tramadol helps reduce withdrawals, withdrawaling from Tramadol itself is a hell of its own. For those of you who know Heroin withdrawls - the sweating, the body agitation, the body pain, puking, diareeah, all that.. Tramadol withdrawal is more like this overwhelming sense of hopelessness mentally, physical pain like heroin 'drawals, and insomnia up the ass. It is almost like it hits you on a spiritual level. Make sure you taper off of Ultram if you KNOW you wont be able to get more or a refill. This do I absolutely urge you to do.

    Sleeping
    Ultram can either help your sleep, or keep you up. It varies from person to person. For me, I get insomnia due to the mental sense of well being which tells me "you don't need to fucking sleep". So I dont. Thats why I don't take it past 8 or 9 pm. However, if I take Ultram with Diphenhydramine (Tylenol PM), it brings the same opiate effect of Hydrocodone. Most opiate users known that Diphenhydramine (Tylenol PM, Benadryl) and Promethazine (Phenergen) usually multiply the effects of opiates. It has this effect on Ultram as well but not in the same context. If you do it to much, it won't work anymore.

    Overall
    Overall, this drug is very light, not even considered a medium drug, and a weak opiate compared to others. However, Tramadol brings something to the table that even potent opiates cannot achieve. The unique and diverse mental & emotional effects are pretty kickass. The body high lasts a good while, and did I forget to mention that this drug will help your pain very well. It's sort of like my retreat drug, cannabis being most of the world's; this is the one thing I can always fall back on and know "hey I can feel good but not get too fucked up or addicted. I can find this peace and balance and know life will be ok." In the end though, anything can cause addiction, even this. Remember who you are, what your values are, and to practice PEACE, LOVE, UNITY, AND RESPECT.

    Happy Tripping Everyone. Hit me up if you all got questions. Tramadol is just one of many pharms/chemical I can tell you about. Thanks again for your time in reading this.

    PLUR

    ~ Danny Havok
     
  2. get_up_stand_up

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    Yeah, tramadol is pretty great for me too. I know most people don't like it.
     
  3. rollontheground

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    yea, i did a c.w.e on 10 ultracets being 375mg of tramadol, my dose was probably more like 300mg becuase im sure some was lost in the extraction, but it did feel like an opiate, it was fun and i did like it, most people take 100mg and never try it again cuz it didnt do anything...
     
  4. st. stephen

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    tramadol not my favorite, but its alright i guess. when ever i did it it was a little to weak for my money and i payed more than i should have
     
  5. I and many friends and people even on this board really really dislike Tramadol.

    Just get yourself an Oxy, Tramadols are wack..
     
  6. get_up_stand_up

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    No, I'm on tram right now, and it really is great. Just 150 mg too, with some grapefruit juice and caffeine. Oxy is pretty sweet though, and, 1 tramadol is a good potentiator.
     
  7. pedaltopedal

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    I know this has been mentioned before, but I feel the need to bring it up again: Tramadol withdrawls are absolute hell.

    It takes a lot longer to become physically addicted to tramadol than traditional opiates. You can use tramadol daily for awhile, then quit cold turkey and not experience much withdrawls... but keep it up long enough and you will experience withdrawls.

    The withdrawls seem to share characteristics from both opiate and benzodiazepine withdrawl (for me). The withdrawls are somewhat similiar to withdrawling from ssri as well.

    Enjoy your tramadol if you can... those of us that enjoy it know how special it is ;) ... just dont abuse it, or it'll bite back HARD.
     
  8. Meemo

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    i take tramadol daily 10 to 15 50mg pills and i tried to stop cold turkey 4 days ago and it was hell..i dropped acid to help overcome the painful withdrawals.. i really really used to LOVE tram. but at the same time i dont advice any1 to take it.

    Peace!
     
  9. The Mushroom Man

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    Tramadol was not what I expected it to be, actually a lot less, but I did find that it has amazing and profound effects on nitrous oxide. When used in combination with 150 mgs of Tramadol, one whippit can produce much more interesting and entertainingm visions than when used alone.
     
  10. Bob

    Bob Visitor

    Man I can't tell you how bad tramadol withdrawals are and the worst thing is hardly anyone you know has any idea what your going through, nausea, body aches sure thAts bad but what it does to your outlook on life is insane especially if you didn't even expect a withdrawal
     
  11. happydude_60

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    I take it as a supplement to Hydrocodone. I've never caught a buzz from it, and it seems to cause me to sleep much less. When my Hydro script runs out early it eliminates wd's completely though. I don't recommend taking it with Xanax though. It can cause extreme dizziness that comes on suddenly when you stand up. I came close to passing out once. I was fine sitting down, but once I stood up it hit me hard. If I wouldn't have sat back down right away I would have fallen, I'm sure of it.
     
  12. happydude_60

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    It happened again last night. I take Xannies before bedtime to help me sleep. I don't normally mix Xannies and Tramadol and just sit around, because of that side effect. I just take it and go to bed. But in the middle of the night I had to go to the bathroom and almost passed out on the way there. I didn't so much sit on the toilet as fall on it. If this can happen to me it can happen to others, so be careful when you mix those two. Falls can hurt you. In fact, that's how my mother died. She was taking 2 types of blood pressure meds that can dehydrate you. One night she was apparently dehydrated and weak, and fell backwards, hitting the lower part of her head on the corner of an end table. It damaged her brain stem and killed her.
     
  13. Deranged

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    Tramadol even in low doses makes me sick
     
  14. Mew43

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    its quite a shame that most doctors would rather prescribe THIS useless bullshit drug than anything that actually works. Tramadol does nothing for pain and isnt even as good as ibuprofen in my opinion. Plus the long list of side effects, sooner or later theyll just remove all the good opiates and the doctors will only be prescribing shitty useless drugs like tramadol that arent addictive and also arent worth fuck all when it comes to helping people
     
  15. G0dm4ch1n3

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    Tramadol gives me a bad case of hives on the tops of my hands and wrist when I take a high dose, so look out for that. It seems like a fairly common occurrence but it's really nothing more than just a nuisance . Also, don't take more than 300mg. The more you take the more you risk a seizure. (I didn't see anyone mention a specific dose.) The higher the dose, the more your natural seizure threshold is lowered.

    IMO, it is not worth abusing. The high is mediocre at best and just not worth the chance of a seizure or annoying itchy welts that last for hours. As for it;s intended use, it's only really helpful in combination with Gabapentin or Lyrica and even then, most times (in my case aswell) it only takes the edge off; Better than OTC pain meds for sure but NOWHERE near the pain relief of Roxicodone/Oxycontin, Opana, or Dilaudid.

    Stick to Percs and Hydros, if you must.
     
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    Yep. I'm getting my Hydro's tomorrow. The Tramadol has helped the last few days though, and I have been taking Gabapentin as well. It doesn't really make much of a dent in the kind of pain I have though.
     
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    Tramadol won't eat your stomach up like over-the-counter ibuprofen, Advil, etc. or even aspirin and that includes Excedrin.Tramadol won't leave you with a bleeding ulcer is in your stomach, like over-the-counter painkillers did to me.
     
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    I was on tramadol for 17 years. Up to 800 mg a day when I stopped. Taperad for 3 weeks down to 25 mg a day. Ran out and was OK for 3 days and then it hit me! Was absolute hell for 3 monthes before it slowly improved. Took 9 monthes to get past all the withdrawels! I loved it and hated it at same time. Be careful! Do not get addicted! Its now a scheduled drug as of 9 monthes ago. If I had been the least bit weak I couldn't have quit on my own and would have committed suicide! It was absolute hell for a long long time! I'm so glad to be over it and will never touch it again.
     

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