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#1 The Mad Hatter

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Posted March 26 2008 - 11:56 AM

"Fictional" Synthesis of LSH by The Mad Hatter
(d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide)

Chemicals + Product

Butane (Very Clean, not lighter grade)
Ethanol 190+ Proof
Acetylhyde (Peppermint oil or Acetylated Wine)
Morning Glories
Everclear, or any HIGH proof alcohol.

-Theory-
Mix morning glory seed powder with butane, soak in ethanol. Extract down to powder, add Acetylhyde and Alcohol.
Dose, around 1ml.


-Procedure-
1. Powder 1000-5000 Seeds
2. Add butane to seed powder, enough to cover.
3. Filter off liquid, repeat steps 2 and 3.
4. Discard liquid, keep seed "mush".
5. Allow "mush to dry".
6. Soak "mush" in ethanol, enough to cover.
7. Leave alone for atleast 1 hour.
8. Filter off liquid, discard "mush".
9. Evaporate ethanol, yielding LSA powder.
10.Add 2 drops per 1000 seeds used of Peppermint oil
11.Mix to form paste.
12.Add 3 mL of everclear per 1000 seeds used.
13.Drop on sugar cubes.

-Dosage-
1mL of completed liquid is a VERY strong dose. Similar to LSD, without body load of LSA.

Happy Trails from The Mad Hatter! :)

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Posted March 26 2008 - 12:16 PM

Would 151 proof be high enough?

And where does one purchase ethanol?

Or even butane for that matter so long as I'm asking, though I'd assume it would probably be at a hardware store.
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Posted March 26 2008 - 12:25 PM

I dunno about pure butane. Have you actually tried this? Does it work? Is it actually LSH?

The body high of LSA is awesome. Why would you want to get rid of it? Are there more visuals?

And why did you list Ethanol twice? You could just use Everclear for both.

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Posted March 26 2008 - 12:41 PM

151 would be sufficient, ethanol is better. Hardware stores are great. To get a cleaner butane, try filtering lighter grade a few times.

This process gives you a more visual experience then just LSA. Its comparable to LSD, but not quite the same. All this process does is make LSA more visual by converting it to LSH, and some people really can't tell this difference from this and LSD. But more experienced users can. If you're looking for an LSD-like experience, then my advice would be simply to find LSD.

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Posted March 26 2008 - 12:47 PM

Another note, though I can not say with 100% certainty this will give you LSH, I can tell you from my research that adding Acetylhyde to LSA converts it to LSH. And another thing is that doing this step makes the experience totally different than just omitting it and taking the extracted LSA.

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Posted March 26 2008 - 01:32 PM

I read in an article pasted on the link below of the same theory. I know from personal experience that a simple lemon juice extract will pull the magic out of the powdered seeds. I also know that LSA is water soluble. Meaning you could soak it in water and strain off the seed mush having gained triptamine LSA H2O. You could in theory evaporate the water and scrape the mush left behind for LSA extract. I would use vodka personally. It evaporates faster and the alcohol might help in the extraction process. you could keep as a tincture. Now about the Acetylhyde conversion. I have read about this before. It goes with the elusian theory of the kykeon beverage made by demeter the goddess of bountiful harvest. grains of barley (which ergot can grow on) and some peppermint steeped in water and strained. So the theory leads itself to the orginal elusian mysteries kykeon was in fact acetylhydated LSA (LSH). I have been waiting to experiment hearing that it is indeed more visual. Not that the lemon juice extract isn't pure and good. so if i add peppermint oil to my seed powder then add lemon juice to soak seed powder in for 30 min. add juice and strain. I should have an LSH potion.

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Posted March 26 2008 - 02:34 PM

Can I use ethyl rubbing alcohol? Getting Everclear isn't going to happen.

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Posted March 26 2008 - 02:42 PM

Can I use ethyl rubbing alcohol? Getting Everclear isn't going to happen.

Yes. Just be damn sure you evaporate it all off. Also, you want to use a high proof drinkable alcohol for the last step before dripping it on the cubes, if you choose to go the sugar cube route. SWIM finds that way to be the best means of consumption. Also, my method is very basic to give a basic understanding. You can take these steps even farther to get a more pure form of LSA before adding the peppermint oil. I recomend doing this, although it is not completely necessary.

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Posted March 26 2008 - 02:50 PM

Yeah. I just wish I could find ethanol somehow. Damn drinking age. There's gotta be some way to get around this.

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Posted March 26 2008 - 04:42 PM

You could go to advance auto parts and just ask for starter fluid. It contains the ether along with heptane which has a higher evaporation rate than the ether itself, meaning that the product is safe for use in this particular experiment.

And even if it didn't evaporate there would only be a minute amount remaining, which is basically harmless.

PS)I always get nervous using chemicals in extractions so I took some time to look into this.

Edit - Heptane is also insoluable in water. Would it be possible after evaporating off the ethanol to resoak in water to make sure that it was removed, and then just evaporate the water?
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Posted March 26 2008 - 04:47 PM

And madhatter.

How's Youngstown? A friend might be going to college next year and I've heard mixed reviews.
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Posted March 26 2008 - 05:13 PM

You could go to advance auto parts and just ask for starter fluid. It contains the ether along with heptane which has a higher evaporation rate than the ether itself, meaning that the product is safe for use in this particular experiment.

And even if it didn't evaporate there would only be a minute amount remaining, which is basically harmless.

PS)I always get nervous using chemicals in extractions so I took some time to look into this.

Edit - Heptane is also insoluable in water. Would it be possible after evaporating off the ethanol to resoak in water to make sure that it was removed, and then just evaporate the water?

I'm not sure if I completely understand what you're getting at... Substituting ethanol with ether?

And, Youngstown pretty much sucks because of the hard drug scene out here. Heroin and Crack totally make this city a shitty and dangerous place, but Youngstown State University is a really good school though. I'll be going back this summer, possibly for chemical engineering, but I'm not positive on that just yet.

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Posted March 26 2008 - 10:35 PM

aww, fuck. I asked the guy at home depot where to get ethanol and that's what he said to find. At the store they called it ether and I guess I just didn't notice the change of title. Well, it was dirt cheap so no real loss.

So I guess it's possible to substitute the 151 for the ethanol. Now I just have to find some high grade butane and peppermint oil.
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Posted March 27 2008 - 08:20 PM

Another note, though I can not say with 100% certainty this will give you LSH, I can tell you from my research that adding Acetylhyde to LSA converts it to LSH. And another thing is that doing this step makes the experience totally different than just omitting it and taking the extracted LSA.

So, if I did a simple water extraction, then added peppermint oil to that, youre saying that would be sufficient? is the whole ethanol + butane part neccessary, or is it just easier to deal with drops than ounces of sludge? Im too lazy/afraid of flammable chemicals to bother with ethanol.

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Posted March 27 2008 - 08:38 PM

Ethanol just makes it so you don't need to deal with drinking shit from what I can see. The butane is unnecessary completely. It's only there for a finer product, but you aren't making powder, so I see it as useless.

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Posted March 28 2008 - 08:49 AM

sweet, if 400 seeds is a good amount of LSA, would it be the same with LSH, or do you use less?

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Posted March 28 2008 - 10:17 AM

In all actuality, you can never use too many seeds, but you can always use too little. 400 seeds should be good. The whole butane part isn't necessary, but it gets A LOT of the oils out that you don't want, but i suppose it's only necessary if you're trying to get a cleaner product. I find there's less nausea and an all around better time when you try to get it as clean as possible.

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Posted March 31 2008 - 08:00 PM

geneity she said body load from lsa (fish vission, nausea) not body high

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Posted April 02 2008 - 02:56 AM

"Fictional" Synthesis of LSH by The Mad Hatter
(d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide)

Chemicals + Product

Butane (Very Clean, not lighter grade)
Ethanol 190+ Proof
Acetylhyde (Peppermint oil or Acetylated Wine)
Morning Glories
Everclear, or any HIGH proof alcohol.

-Theory-
Mix morning glory seed powder with butane, soak in ethanol. Extract down to powder, add Acetylhyde and Alcohol.
Dose, around 1ml.


-Procedure-
1. Powder 1000-5000 Seeds
2. Add butane to seed powder, enough to cover.
3. Filter off liquid, repeat steps 2 and 3.
4. Discard liquid, keep seed "mush".
5. Allow "mush to dry".
6. Soak "mush" in ethanol, enough to cover.
7. Leave alone for atleast 1 hour.
8. Filter off liquid, discard "mush".
9. Evaporate ethanol, yielding LSA powder.
10.Add 2 drops per 1000 seeds used of Peppermint oil
11.Mix to form paste.
12.Add 3 mL of everclear per 1000 seeds used.
13.Drop on sugar cubes.

-Dosage-
1mL of completed liquid is a VERY strong dose. Similar to LSD, without body load of LSA.

Happy Trails from The Mad Hatter! :)



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Posted April 02 2008 - 07:02 AM

SWIM will be trying this today or tomorrow. A thing SWIM would like to know before hand. Will all this evaporating turn hi house into a smoldering rubble if say the light in his refridgerator turns on Fight Club style? And how do you figure doses with BHWR seeds, 100 specifically. And how many 'servings' per 500 seeds of MG?
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Posted April 02 2008 - 12:41 PM

Please tell us which is better for this process: working in a hyperbaric chamber or a walk-in freezer? Or is there another way to keep butane a liquid despite its boiling point of 31F at 1 atm?

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Posted April 03 2008 - 08:18 AM

In my town I managed to find 91% ispopropyl alcohol and naphtha. Can I move forward provided I make sure that everything is evaporated? Also how long does the end result keep for?
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Posted April 04 2008 - 07:36 PM

These are all GREAT ideas... But shouldn't there be a pH level of at least 4 and only then will the bonding occur under low tempurature settings?

Thus it should be: these process', PLUS the addition of an acidic solution (Vinegar or Lemon Juice [Citric Acid] will work) and then put that all in the fridge for a day and drink it down when you're ready.

It should stay liquid people, that's how I've read it from other sources.

So, summary:
-LSA (either clean, or right from HBWR or MG seeds)
-Acetaldehyde
-Alcohol (which will come with water in it, and sometimes even Acetaldehyde)
-Acidic Solution
Mix all of that, and put it in the fridge over night. Bam! LSH, easy.

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Posted April 04 2008 - 08:10 PM

These are all GREAT ideas... But shouldn't there be a pH level of at least 4 and only then will the bonding occur under low tempurature settings?

Thus it should be: these process', PLUS the addition of an acidic solution (Vinegar or Lemon Juice [Citric Acid] will work) and then put that all in the fridge for a day and drink it down when you're ready.

It should stay liquid people, that's how I've read it from other sources.

So, summary:
-LSA (either clean, or right from HBWR or MG seeds)
-Acetaldehyde
-Alcohol (which will come with water in it, and sometimes even Acetaldehyde)
-Acidic Solution
Mix all of that, and put it in the fridge over night. Bam! LSH, easy.


I'm pretty sure the acetaldehyde is in the peppermint oil which is why its listed as an ingredient in the first post.
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Posted April 04 2008 - 09:42 PM

??

peppermint oil is typically menthol and menthone, with some terpene compounds.
acetaldehyde is oxidized ethanol.

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Posted April 05 2008 - 06:06 PM

I'm not saying that the Acetaldehyde is missing... What I was getting at in my reply post was that you need a pH of 4, AND for it to be refridgerated at tempertaures below 21 degrees Celsius.

And Acetaldehyde can also be half fermented grain Alcohol (Ethanol).

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I just put a mix of 8 HBWR seeds, One drop of Peppermint Essential Oil, some (about an ounce of) 40% ethyl alcohol, and some (about an ounce of) vinegar making about two ounces or so of the mix - All in the freezer (just to make it drop the temp faster). I'll be taking it back out in about 15 minutes (making a total of 45 mins in the freezer).

I'm then going to drink it down right when it comes out. It's not frozen, and won't freeze because of the alcohol, and because it won't be in there long enough to freeze the water that's in the alcohol and vinegar.

I'll note back in about an hour seeing how it feels.

Wish me luck.

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Posted April 05 2008 - 07:41 PM

Well, I'm back again. I can see that my eyes are dialated. Really just signs of LSA, nothing more.

I figured it would be like this. I'm having a few distortions. Lmfao. And some giggles. Also, a little nausea, but... Like I figured, I didn't leave it long enough to do anything. Thus, really like LSA.

I'll do some more next weekend and actually do the process for the 24 hours, like it said.

It's almost like powerful LSA. That's about it.

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Posted April 07 2008 - 02:50 AM

I'm not saying that the Acetaldehyde is missing... What I was getting at in my reply post was that you need a pH of 4, AND for it to be refridgerated at tempertaures below 21 degrees Celsius.

And Acetaldehyde can also be half fermented grain Alcohol (Ethanol).

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I just put a mix of 8 HBWR seeds, One drop of Peppermint Essential Oil, some (about an ounce of) 40% ethyl alcohol, and some (about an ounce of) vinegar making about two ounces or so of the mix - All in the freezer (just to make it drop the temp faster). I'll be taking it back out in about 15 minutes (making a total of 45 mins in the freezer).

I'm then going to drink it down right when it comes out. It's not frozen, and won't freeze because of the alcohol, and because it won't be in there long enough to freeze the water that's in the alcohol and vinegar.

I'll note back in about an hour seeing how it feels.

Wish me luck.

Hi i'm an organic chemist "NOT" and LET ME TELL YOU THAT THIS (LSH IS "bull shit"

YOU CAN NOT MAKE LSH COS THERE IS NO SUCH THING

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Posted April 07 2008 - 02:59 AM

Hi i'm an organic chemist and LET ME TELL YOU THAT THIS (LSH IS "bull shit"

YOU CAN NOT MAKE LSH COS THERE IS NO SUCH THING

Would you like to elaborate as to why there is no such thing. Cause I accually think its funny that they are using chemicals that are unreactive, and the simple extraction process for mgs is all you have to do to make lsa. The mentioning of butane had my laughing for a hour. dupes!

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Posted April 07 2008 - 04:12 AM

Here is what you can make with your LSA - PRO-LAD, ETH-LAD, ALD-52 - But to make any of them you first need to make LSD sorry theres no easy way, if your going to take the lsa from the seed make sure you do it in the dark?

LSH is a myth