How to make acid (im not asking.... i have the answer)

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by Zen_Master3568, Mar 14, 2008.

  1. Zen_Master3568

    Zen_Master3568 Member

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    MANUFACTURE OF LSD

    Materials:

    1. Ergotamine tartrate

    2. Hydrazine hydrate

    3. Hydrazide

    4. Hydrochloric Acid

    5. Sodium Nitrite

    6. Sodium Bicarbonate

    7. Diethylamine

    8. Ether

    9. Flasks

    10. Filter paper

    11. Heating mantle

    12. 2 liter three-necked round bottom flask

    Time: Approximately 36 hours.

    Process:

    STEP 1: In a 2 liter three-necked round bottom flask
    add to 2 grams of ergotamine tartrate about 1/2 gram
    of hydrazine hydrate. Exercise caution when adding
    the hydrazine hydrate because it is very poisonous,
    particularly to the eyes.

    STEP 2: Place a condensing column on one neck of the
    flask. Place a stirring device in the center neck and
    place a separatory funnel in the thick neck. (Note:
    hydrazide hydrate may be added through a separatory
    funnel although it is not necessary.)

    STEP 3: Place the flask on a heating mantle and simmer
    the solution for 2-3 hours while stirring occasionally.

    STEP 4: Remove condensing column from flask and continue
    to cook for 10-15 minutes or until the original solution
    is reduced by half.

    STEP 5: After solution has cooled, pour the solution
    through filter paper and collect the crystals that
    formed. Wash the crystals in a small amount of
    absolute alcohol.



    STEP 6: Dissolve the crystals in about 30cc of diluted
    hydrochloric acid. (Note: diluted hydrochloric acid is
    mixed at a rate of 1 part acid to 10 or 15 parts water.)

    STEP 7: To the hydrochloric acid solution add about
    15cc of a solution of sodium nitrite diluted in water.
    (Note: one part sodium nitrite to 10 or 15 parts
    water.) Let this solution stand for about 30 minutes.

    STEP 8: To this solution add about one teaspoonful of
    sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) to make the solution
    basic.

    STEP 9: Place this solution in a separatory funnel and
    add to it an equal quantity of ether. Shake this
    solution gently for about 5 minutes.

    STEP 10: Separate the ether solution from the
    separatory funnel and keep the ether solution. The
    remainder may be discarded.

    STEP 11: Cool the ether solution to 0 degrees Celsius
    and to the solution add a solution of about .5 gram
    of diethylamine mixed with ether.

    STEP 12: Maintain the solution at 0 degrees Celsius for
    24 hours, stirring it occasionally (perhaps 4 hour
    intervals.)

    STEP 13: Remove the solution from the ice bath and
    allow it to stand at room temperature for about 2
    hours, or until it evaporates. The remaining crystals
    will be crude LSD.

    Obviously you should not attempt this method without at least
    some first-year state level Chemistry.

    Please BE CAREFULL and post anyway you know how to get these chemicals or any success storys.....
    :rainbow: Peace

    PS - Breathing in the fumes of these chemicals can send you tripping.... where a mask and gogles and do all chemestry in an air tight area!
     
  2. StonerBill

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    Come on people, we are all waiting for results, now!
     
  3. PharmaPhunk

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    Hmmm I guess it seems legit, still alot of materials/equipment needed. I'll try it when it gets down to the simplicity of a red-neck meth synth.
     
  4. kilo/camilus

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    man, if i had these chemicals, I'd be making LSD right NOW...
     
  5. HauntedGraffiti

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    Alright I tried to search some of this and this is what i found:

    1. Ergotamine tartrate-i found this with caffiene? you could buy some of this and extract it: http://www.valuepharmaceuticals.com/Cafergot.html
    2. Hydrazine hydrate-
    http://buy.ecplaza.net/search/1s1nf20sell/hydrazine_hydrate.html
    3. Hydrazide- this looks like a pill...
    http://www.allcaremeds.com/without/prescription/HYDRAZIDE.shtml.htm
    4. Hydrochloric Acid- http://secure.sciencecompany.com/Hydrochloric-Acid-Concentrated-32oz-P6548C670.aspx
    5. Sodium Nitrite- http://www.sciencestuff.com/prod/Chem-Rgnts/C2664
    6. Sodium Bicarbonate- http://www.sciencestuff.com/prod/Chem-Rgnts/C2538
    7. Diethylamine- http://www.neis.com/chemnames/d/Diethylamine.html
    8. Ether- http://www.tradekey.com/kb-ether/

    And have you ever tried this, or just asking where to buy it?? This doesn't look hard at all, just a bit pricey..

    and can this be put on blotter??
     
  6. Zen_Master3568

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    i havnt tried it, i want to set it up in my closet becasue it makes big amounts so if i did it once, id be set for like 10 years i think its achol souluble so mix it with a bit of high proff drinking alchol and then you can drop it on blotter paper. thx for the info on the chemicals.... cant wait to try it!
     
  7. De stoned fryball

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    I believe itd be harder to find the materials than just searching a few internet pages. It seems alot of the suppliers are out of the country and probably wont ship to usa. Even if they did it might get stopped by customs for being a large box. As you said probably would be very expensive. I just think the materials must be hard to come by.

    whats with all the threads to make lsd anyway, isnt it cheap enough? haha
     
  8. Michael Savage

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    It's impossible to get most of that shit...only a few people in the world have the necessary credentials. And even if you somehow did manage to get it, the DEA would literally be at your door the next day.

    File the whole thing under "impossible" or "horrible idea", and forget it.
     
  9. .trippin..

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    this should be stickied
     
  10. HauntedGraffiti

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    Naw man, the only one which seems impossible to get is the Ergotamine tartrate, but you can get this pill called cafergot and just extract it somehow.
     
  11. Zen_Master3568

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    Ergotamine tartrate actually occers in the ergot fungus.... so it you can find an ergot plant... you can find Ergotamine tartrate

    also if you decide to use the Ergotamine tartrate from a cagerfoot pill, make sure the pill actually has Ergotamine tartrate becuase some of them have ergoline instead
     
  12. Zen_Master3568

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    as for the extraction of caffine --

    http://www.chem.ucalgary.ca/courses/351/laboratory/351expt03.html
    http://departments.oxy.edu/tops/Caffeine/CAFFEINE-T.pdf

    you can also soak the pills in water and then pass them through activated charcoal (this is what is done to decaffinate coffie) i dont know if this will work though because the Ergotamine tartrate may also be water souluble and then you would lose it aswell as the caffine

    see-
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decaffeination#Swiss_water_process

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decaffeination#Direct_method

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decaffeination#Indirect_method


    I know all this is a hell of alot to do but the yeilds are so high that only 2 or 3 LSD labs were running to supply for the whole 60's! in the end you will have enough LSD to sell and make like 7 times what you spent. :)
     
  13. Zen_Master3568

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    Ergotamine tartrate also has a much higher molecular weight then caffine. you could attempt to do some sort of weight extraction if the pill you get has only Ergotamine tartrate and caffine
    ex:
    you could grind pill in to a VERY pine powder then gently pour it onto the top of some water in a container with an easy to operate valve at the bottom wait for the powder to separate, some sould sink slowly others faster. once there is quite the space bettween the two you would start to let the water out untill the top starts to come down to the valve... then you shut it. now evaporate the water that was released and voulia..... Ergotamine tartrate
     
  14. StonerBill

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    unfortunately, the ergotamine is probably going to be soluable in anything that the caffeine is, and thus perhaps a centrifuge may help, thanks to the molecular weight difference, but with 100 times the caffeine than ergotamine, youre gonna end up with imurities. perhaps not, if you have what it takes to make acid with that set of instructions anyway.

    and as for the post at the top of this page regarding harvesting the ergot fungus - this is a huge scale operation, very low efficiency process, and the fungus grow on plant matter. not only this, but if you read into erowid a bit youll see someone had this idea only to find that when breeding ergot fungus in an open population, a lot of mutation occurs and most of the fungus does not produce the ergotamine molecule sufficiently. you need a heap load to end up with enough product to get pure ergotamine tartrate crystals from.
     
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    on earths natural gravitational setup, molecular weight means squat if the molecule happens to be dissolved in H2O, a chemical of most amazing properties. when you have all the filler of a pill and 100mg of caffeine in a solution, the 1mg of ergotamine will more or less be spread evenly, or at least, unpredictably, throughout the solution.
     
  16. Zen_Master3568

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    Ive done my research and this is what ive come up with---- (all recipies require a Cagerfoot pill with ONLY Ergotamine tartrate and Caffine

    Recipie one:
    Ingrediants- Finely crushed up Cagerfoot pills
    Candy thermometer
    Double broiler set-up

    1)Hook the candy thermometer to the top section of your doulbe broiler
    2)Place in Cagerfoot Pills
    3)Get the temature of the pills up to 400 degrees ferent hight (If to goes above 460, this is ruined, so be carefull)
    4)Ergotamine tartrate's melting piont is below caffine's so if all goes well it sould melt and the caffine shoundent
    5)Once the pills have become a sludge... add about 2 table spoons of water for every pill and mix well (remebering to keep temp at 400)
    6)There should be two liquids and they sould separate (i dont know the density of caffine or Ergotamine tartrate so the Ergotamine tartrate could be the top layer or bottom layer)
    7) take a turkey baster and suck of the top layer (eaither using that or using whats left)
    -Remember when using the turkey baster.... its better to lose a bit of Ergotamine tartrate then have what you do have contaminated so you may want to leave a bit of the Ergotamine tartrate in the broiler as to not bymistake pick up some caffinated water
     
  17. Zen_Master3568

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    caffine is water souluble, Ergotamine tartrate is not
     
  18. Zen_Master3568

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    Recipie Two:
    Ingredients--Cagerfoot pills
    Hot water (at boiling piont)
    Coffie strainer

    1) place crushed pill in water
    2) stir like theres no tomorow
    3) strain and rince with water and strain again (repeat as many times as possible)
    4) let water evaporate
    This method is easier but will leave quite a few impurites

    P.S. for both methods the pills need to be a VERY fine powder or the Ergotamine tartrate will carry caffine with it
     
  19. HauntedGraffiti

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    Wow, this seems a LOT EASIER than the first idea. Let us all know how the end product turns out [the acid i mean].
     
  20. Zen_Master3568

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    yes, but the second one will not separate the caffine compleatly and therefore may end up skrewing up the acid (i dont know if youll just get acid with caffine in it or it wont work)
     

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