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#1 LeapingTiddlywinks!

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Posted January 30 2008 - 02:03 PM

Hey guys, I know the rules say that you can't directly ask for hookups and such, and that's fair enough. I hope this isn't against the rules, but I have a question...

I was surfing the net trying to find ways to get a script. for painkillers written out legitimately from a doctor, by faking it. I know of one thing my friend faked, which was an infection in his testicals, which shows no external symptoms, you just have to be a good actor and be willing to have your balls palpated and x-rayed. The standard perscription for that is twenty 5/500 vicodins and I was going to try this, but I was wondering if you guys knew any other way? I don't want to come off sounding like some pain-med junkie douche, but between having a pilonidal cyst in my back, near my spine and breaking off a piece and dislocating my knee-cap from b-ball when I was 16 a few times (I'm now 23), i have become reasonably addicted to the feeling of opiates being in my blood-stream. It seems as though every year that passes by, i get my hands on them for some reason or another, a couple times. I'm looking for some way to acquire some legitimately through a physician and believe I have come to the right place to ask this...

Any help or advice besides quitting all together (haha), would be VERY greatly appreciated :)

edit: I'm thinking I may be able to somehow fake more pain with the pilonidal cyst, but seeing as the hole is mostly sealed up now, from the surgeries I had, i'm not sure I could. hmm

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Posted January 30 2008 - 02:59 PM

5/500s lol why would you even want those...

welllll if you live in the south west, Arizona, California ect the doctors basically give out painkillers like lollipops, you could buy some pods(ask in pm plz if people keep on talking about getting them from certain places we soon won't be able to), or you could go to a few parties and try to find a hookup?

just try to get into some opiate forums and once they trust/know you enough they may tell you which doctors are good.

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Posted January 30 2008 - 03:02 PM

5/500's are like a last resort, yep. That's why I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to get a better dosage, but i'll settle with 5/500 if I have to. Twenty of them just isn't worth the time to fake it though, I don't think. It takes 4-5 of them to make me feel satisfactory for now. As you can tell, I don't do them very much. It frustrates me that the pharmacies get these things for a matter of a few cents a pill, and we end up having to pay out the ass on the street for them, or have a legit script. in which they are strictly regulated. Sorry, but a dollar per milligram just causes a titanic hole in the wallet.
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Posted January 30 2008 - 04:37 PM

I think doctors are reluctant to give someone in their early 20's strong narcotics because of the potential for addiction. That's not to say they're willing to hand them out to someone who's older but I think you have a better chance then. When I was in grad school and went to the doctor for pain related to a fracture, the only thing they offered to give me was an anti-inflammatory. I think you're better off going to an orthopaedist or pain management specialist and being honest about your knee injury. At least then you can present some documentation of your surgery and it doesn't look like you're trying to score pain killers. 5/500's are really weak, pretty much the weakest thing they'll give you aside from Tylenol with Codeine. I doubt they'll give you Percocet or anything stronger on a regular basis--unless you suffered additional damage to your knee or something--especially if your injury occurred 7 years ago. Even then you will probably only get 30 tablets of 5/325.

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Posted January 30 2008 - 04:45 PM

^Yeah, I figure. I'm looking for something that is just a one-time thing. I'm thinking that irritating the spot where I had 3 surgeries for the pilonidal cyst (it kept re-opening), to make it appear distressed and just complaining about severe internal pain, is my best bet, as i've visited this doctor over 40 times in checkups on it, and never tried scoring pain meds from him before. The knee thing wouldn't get me any unless I actually hurt it again and I'm definitely not willing to do that. Worst pain in the entire world, aside from having a limb amputated, I'm thinking. lol
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Posted January 31 2008 - 01:22 AM

Found this on Craigs list:

Advice from an ER doctor to drug seekers

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Date: 2007-03-27, 9:56AM PDT


OK, I am not going to lecture you about the dangers of narcotic pain medicines. We both know how addictive they are: you because you know how it feels when you don't have your vicodin, me because I've seen many many many people just like you. However, there are a few things I can tell you that would make us both much happier. By following a few simple rules our little clinical transaction can go more smoothly and we'll both be happier because you get out of the ER quicker.

The first rule is be nice to the nurses. They are underpaid, overworked, and have a lot more influence over your stay in the ER than you think. When you are tempted to treat them like shit because they are not the ones who write the rx, remember: I might write for you to get a shot of 2mg of dilaudid, but your behavior toward the nurses determines what percent of that dilaudid is squirted onto the floor before you get your shot.

The second rule is pick a simple, non-dangerous, (non-verifiable) painful condition which doesn't require me to do a four thousand dollar work-up in order to get you out of the ER. If you tell me that you headache started suddenly and is the 'worst headache of your life' you will either end up with a spinal tap or signing out against medical advice without an rx for pain medicine. The parts of the story that you think make you sound pitiful and worthy of extra narcotics make me worry that you have a bleeding aneurysm. And while I am 99% sure its not, I'm not willing to lay my license and my families future on the line for your ass. I also don't want to miss the poor bastard who really has a bleed, so everyone with that history gets a needle in the back. Just stick to a history of your 'typical pain that is totally the same as I usually get' and we will both be much happier.

The third rule (related to #2) is never rate your pain a 10/10. 10/10 means the worst pain you could possibly imagine. I've seen people in a 10/10 pain and you sitting there playing tetris on your cell phone are not in 10/10 pain. 10/10 pain is an open fracture dangling in the wind, a 50% body surface deep partial thickness burn, or the pain of a real cerebral aneurysm. Even when I passed a kidney stone, the worst pain I had was probably a 7. And that was when I was projectile vomiting and crying for my mother. So stick with a nice 7 or even an 8. That means to me you are hurting by you might not be lying. (See below.)

The fourth rule is never ever ever lie to me about who you are or your history. If you come to the ER and give us a fake name so we can't get your old records I will assume you are a worse douchetard than you really are. More importantly though it will really really piss me the fuck off. Pissing off the guy who writes the rx you want does not work to your advantage.

The fifth rule is don't assume I am an idiot. I went to medical school. That is certainly no guarantee that I am a rocket scientist I know (hell, I went to school with a few people who were a couple of french fries short of a happy meal.) However, I also got an ER residency spot which means I was in the top quarter or so of my class. This means it is a fair guess I am a reasonably smart guy. So if I read your triage note and 1) you list allergies to every non-narcotic pain medicine ever made, 2) you have a history of migraines, fibromyalgia, and lumbar disk disease, and 3) your doctor is on vacation, only has clinic on alternate Tuesdays, or is dead, I am smart enough to read that as: you are scamming for some vicodin. That in and of itself won't necessarily mean you don't get any pain medicine. Hell, the fucktards who list and allergy to tylenol but who can take vicodin (which contains tylenol) are at least good for a few laughs at the nurses station. However, if you give that history everyone in the ER from me to the guy who mops the floor will know you are a lying douchetard who is scamming for vicodin. (See rule # 4 about lying.)

The sixth and final rule is wait your fucking turn. If the nurse triages you to the waiting room but brings patients who arrived after you back to be treated first, that is because this is an EMERGENCY room and they are sicker than you are. You getting a fix of vicodin is not more important than the 6 year old with a severe asthma attack. Telling the nurse at triage that now your migraine is giving you chest pain since you have been sitting a half hour in the waiting area to try to force her into taking you back sooner is a recipe for making all of us hate you. Even if you end up coming back immediately, I will make it my mission that night to torment you. You will not get the pain medicine you want under any circumstances. And I firmly believe that if you manipulate your way to the back and make a 19 year old young woman with an ectopic pregnancy that might kill her in a few hours wait even a moment longer to be seen, I should be able to piss in a glass and make you drink it before you leave the ER.

So if you keep these few simple rules in mind, our interaction will go much more smoothly. I don't really give a shit if I give 20 vicodins to a drug-seeker. Before I was burnt out in the ER I was a hippy and I would honestly rather give that to ten of you guys than make one person in real pain (unrelated to withdrawal) suffer. However, if you insist on waving a flourescent orange flag that says 'I am a drug seeker' and pissing me and the nurses off with your behavior, I am less likely to give you that rx. You don't want that. I don't want that. So lets keep this simple, easy, and we'll all be much happier.

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Posted January 31 2008 - 01:53 AM

salmon4me- Great post you dug up from Craigs list, How fucking true man this ER doctor is 100% right. I enjoyd reading that, Thanks man. I would be the same exact way as this Doctor hey if your cool and respect every one and even though your dope sick wait your turn without complaining I would hook you up with a shot of Dilaudid and a script for 20 vicoden no problem it makes my job easier and makes you happy as hell. But if you are some Ass hole who is dope sick and can't wait there turn and who is rude your ass would be getting Tylenol and a cup of water thats about all. Er Doctors and Dentist are not stupid today maybe 20 years ago before addiction was in the spot light they handed out scripts like candy with any old bull shit pain story line you gave but not today.one of the First things new Doctors are taught is to look for Addicts who want narcotics and are faking a injury.

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Posted January 31 2008 - 06:17 AM

Yea, got to love those doctors who can 'read' us patients so well.
Like the time I went to the hospital with severe chest pain, told them it hurt as 8/10 and they gave me A, as in ONE, vicodin, took an xray, doctor looked at me like a junky and sent me home.
The next day they call me as Im barely breathing and feel like Im having a heart attack for 24 hours and say "Um...sir, we need you to come back as soon as possible, you have a 60% lung collapse that our doctor somehow missed."
Yea, he MISSED. The asshole thought I was there jonesing for a fucking vicodin? They shot me up with Diluadid the minute I walked in the door and offered me my choice of painkillers and the option of 2 different surgerys and treated me like a king.
To doctors like this, go fuck yourself, your just like the police who are out to stroke their own ego.
To doctors who actually do their job, thank you and God bless.
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Posted January 31 2008 - 12:24 PM

Thanks for that lol So, my back actually opened up a little, where I had my Pilonidal cyst and it actually does hurt, and tunnels up about 2 inches with irritated scar tissue in there. I think that'll be enough, but maybe not, as my primary physician is a big christian and his whole facility is, and they don't give out pain meds too easily.

wish me luck lol

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Posted January 31 2008 - 01:13 PM

I find getting pods to be much easier than dealing with docs.

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Posted January 31 2008 - 03:10 PM

So, i went and of course he only perscribed me anti-biotic cream. This is the same doctor who when someone ran into me and my car was totalled and i had severe whiplash, only handed me Skelaxin samples, so it was half expected. My dad gave me 2 left over Vicodins from his surgery, but 2 just doesnt cut it for me, so im wondering how I can get the maximum effect from these two pills? Keep in mind, four 5mgs usually have me feeling real good, so my tolerance isn't too high. These are Watson 349s.. which from my experience dont seem quite as potent as the M357s, anyhow.. what's the best thing to do here? Chew them up and wash them down with water?

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Posted January 31 2008 - 03:51 PM

pretty much. all it'll do is kick in faster and perhaps stronger. I'm not your moral judge, but the acetomenephin in those things is rough on your liver. We don't think of it as much since its effects are discernably mild, but the 20 mg of good stuff combined with the attached 2000 mg of tylenol in four pills is just not worth the expenditure to your liver. I say if you're going to do something "wrong," at least do it right. If you can't get purer pills, hold off until you can. Sometimes all it takes is patience; establishing a consistent and inexplicable history of chronic pain, being unassuming and not asking for pills, just maintaining that you're in pain every day, etc.

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Posted January 31 2008 - 04:00 PM

pretty much. all it'll do is kick in faster and perhaps stronger. I'm not your moral judge, but the acetomenephin in those things is rough on your liver. We don't think of it as much since its effects are discernably mild, but the 20 mg of good stuff combined with the attached 2000 mg of tylenol in four pills is just not worth the expenditure to your liver. I say if you're going to do something "wrong," at least do it right. If you can't get purer pills, hold off until you can. Sometimes all it takes is patience; establishing a consistent and inexplicable history of chronic pain, being unassuming and not asking for pills, just maintaining that you're in pain every day, etc.

Thanks for the advice. I went about 4 nights ago and ended up taking four 5mg pills then another pill and a half about an hour later and I felt kind of naseous / fight or flight for about 3 min. but then it went away. Problem is, I think the aceteminiphin took over a little too much and ended up giving me that sortve crazy light limb feeling, but very anxious and itchy. It didn't even get me that much more high and the come down was kind of a bitch. I won't do that again. So, you don't lose any of the pill by just chewing it up real good and swallowing? The residual stuff left over in my mouth makes me wonder if i'll absorb all of it. I haven't tried it yet, i'm debating it. Might just swallow them

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Posted January 31 2008 - 04:03 PM

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Posted January 31 2008 - 06:52 PM

stay away from the APAP...yes, liver damage!
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Posted January 31 2008 - 07:03 PM

I cannot find oxycontin around here though :-/ I want to try the pod thing, but I'm not sure of the procedure to make the tea
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Posted January 31 2008 - 07:32 PM

"Step one: Take your supply of poppy pods and grind them in a coffee grinder to create as fine a powder as possible. Mix the powder into a homogenous product, so as to account for variations in potency between one pod and the next.

Step two: Measure out five pods worth of powder. If you are using more "potent" strains such as hens and chickens, start with perhaps two. If you have a high tolerance to opiates, you can try more. But always remember to start SMALL. It's always better to waste some pods than to overdose!

Step three: Boil two cups of water on the stove. Once the water is boiling, remove from the heat and add your powdered pods. Do not boil the pods!

Step four: Stir occasionally, allowing around 10-15 minutes for the tea to "steep", and cool.

Step Five: Pour the contents through a strainer or cheesecloth into a mug. Save the used pulp from the strainer, as it can be used again, although at about half the strength. Only use one cup of water when doing a re-brew.

Step Six: Drink the mixture, including any powdery residue left at the bottom of your mug, as it will also contain alkaloids. Waste not want not!

Many people simply cannot stand the taste of the tea. It can be quite horrible in fact, especially if you can't handle bitter flavours well. Some people like to add some honey or sugar to their tea to mask the flavour. Others say that mixing the tea with Orange Juice can totally mask the flavour, without reducing the effects. In the end, it's up to you.

Remember, as with any opiate based substance, it is possible to both overdose and become addicted to poppy tea. So use caution! It's always better not to start at all, but if you must, it is imperative that you treat these powerful substances with the respect that they deserve."

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Posted January 31 2008 - 07:41 PM

you could try an online source

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Posted January 31 2008 - 07:41 PM

THANKS for the post man! So, this is a really good substitute for opiate pills, depending on quality of the pod? any tips on where to find some good ones here in the states?
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Posted January 31 2008 - 07:41 PM

"Step one: Take your supply of poppy pods and grind them in a coffee grinder to create as fine a powder as possible. Mix the powder into a homogenous product, so as to account for variations in potency between one pod and the next.

Step two: Measure out five pods worth of powder. If you are using more "potent" strains such as hens and chickens, start with perhaps two. If you have a high tolerance to opiates, you can try more. But always remember to start SMALL. It's always better to waste some pods than to overdose!

Step three: Boil two cups of water on the stove. Once the water is boiling, remove from the heat and add your powdered pods. Do not boil the pods!

Step four: Stir occasionally, allowing around 10-15 minutes for the tea to "steep", and cool.

Step Five: Pour the contents through a strainer or cheesecloth into a mug. Save the used pulp from the strainer, as it can be used again, although at about half the strength. Only use one cup of water when doing a re-brew.

Step Six: Drink the mixture, including any powdery residue left at the bottom of your mug, as it will also contain alkaloids. Waste not want not!

Many people simply cannot stand the taste of the tea. It can be quite horrible in fact, especially if you can't handle bitter flavours well. Some people like to add some honey or sugar to their tea to mask the flavour. Others say that mixing the tea with Orange Juice can totally mask the flavour, without reducing the effects. In the end, it's up to you.

Remember, as with any opiate based substance, it is possible to both overdose and become addicted to poppy tea. So use caution! It's always better not to start at all, but if you must, it is imperative that you treat these powerful substances with the respect that they deserve."


Well said, Acga. I use seeds, about twice a month. Love the taste! Be sure to render the alkaloids as salts, using lemon juice or tartar.
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Posted January 31 2008 - 10:59 PM

So i took the vicodins orall (swallowed) and they didnt' do shit. Sad lol they may have been up to a year and a half old.. maybe that's why? Mixed with the fact that I usually have 4, but eh..

update: Nevermind. It took about an hour for them to kick in. Weird.
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Posted February 01 2008 - 05:19 AM

Here's how I've always made the pods into tea, every time with complete success and this extraction could not be any easier :tongue:
1. Smash up 10 of the big pods, I forget the name but Leaping pm and I'll steer you straight. But yea, smash up 10 into complete powder like already said, finest powder you can manage.
2. Boil just over a gallon of water to complete boiling, and set on a turned off wire stove top to cool. Pour in all of the 10 pods worth of powder and add a VERY liberal amount of lemon juice, I mean dump that in there like there's no tomorrow, it is the extraction and it masks the taste tremendoudly, you pretty much cant go wrong.
3. Let it sit for 30-40 minutes stirring as much as you feel like. Add honey and a ton of sugar for taste.
4. Pour through a strainer into another pot, then slowly pour that strained tea into a gallon jug to fill it up.
5. Put it in the fridge until it's cold, take a 12oz cup and fill 3/4 of the way and drink. It being cold helps with the taste a thousandfold.

After an hour and a half, if your not feeling ANYTHING, try another 12oz cup, this time full. If you have little to no tolerance, you should have felt the first cup within 30 minutes. But, just to be safe.
Have done this countless times with friends of all different degrees of tolerance and never had any problems besides one who puked but then again he puked every time he would take 30mg's MSContin so go figure. Better safe than sorry and Im not promising you wont get sick or take too much, but in all honesty if you stick to a small cup at first and arent impatient, I highly doubt you have to worry about OD. I normally wouldnt suggest anyone do something that is potentially unsafe but I've never had any problems like I've already stated.
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Posted February 01 2008 - 03:14 PM

Thanks for the instructions on making poppy tea, people. I really appreciate it. I trust you more than I do just googling it and hoping for the best. I know that the DEA also has agents push disinfo on drugs. I just like to be extra cautious when dealing with chemicals.

So,I called in today and i got perscribed 20 5/500s but when I got home I found only 19 in there. This ever happened to anyone else? Its not enough for me to want to drive 10 min. back to Safeway pharmacy and tell them (not like they'd believe me anyway; no way to prove it), but it still kinda upsets me for some reason. I don't know why.

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Posted February 01 2008 - 07:47 PM

the best way to start on poppy tea is to go slow with the first cup out of a batch. I never use more then 2 pods with my first cup. Even with the weakest pods I've had 2 is enough to at least give you a little buzz. Work up from 2 in later batches.

You can always drink a little more if your first cup doesn't put you where you want to be.

Safety first yo ;)

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Posted February 01 2008 - 07:53 PM

relayer have you ever made laudanum?

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Posted February 02 2008 - 08:39 AM

relayer have you ever made laudanum?

Haha! :tongue: No, but how cool would that be!

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Posted February 02 2008 - 10:19 AM

To both Relayer and Acga - I've always wanted to make Laudanum...if either of you try it or find any info on how to make it, you should start a new thread.
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Posted February 02 2008 - 04:26 PM

hahaha, I was seriously researching how to make laudanum about two days ago. I ended up running into a bunch of poor/mediocre experience reports using poppy pods, and this fairly interesting article:
http://www.hypatia-l...s/Section03.pdf

I doubt the recipe will do much good because it requires pure opium, but hey!
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Posted February 02 2008 - 05:22 PM

To both Relayer and Acga - I've always wanted to make Laudanum...if either of you try it or find any info on how to make it, you should start a new thread.
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Ill pm u the recipe :P, using pods

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Posted February 05 2008 - 02:37 AM

The tea does work alright I use to think back in the day it was bullshit.There have been a handful of times over the years that U could not get any Herion that day or I could not make it to my Methadone clinic where the tea worked wonders for me not getting sick. I am not saying now if someone has a 5 bag a day herion addiction or 320mg OC habbit that the tea is going to make it so you don't get totaly sick but it will help alot. I myself would rather have strong Poppy tea then a script of codeine if I was dope sick. For someone who is a big opiate user of Herion or pain killers and has a habbit be it a little one or a big one you should always have a few pods on hand to make the tea. I don't care how good your dealer is you have. You know dam well there is agoing to be days you don't get your shit.And when one of those days come you will me so happy you got the tea on hand instead of being sick.-Believe me !!!!