How strong is the sexual element of nudism?

Discussion in 'Nudism, Naturism' started by Utilitarian, Dec 27, 2007.

  1. Utilitarian

    Utilitarian Member

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    I'm not ignorant enough to just assume nudism is just an opportunity to see naked hippy chicks, but I don't know the answer to this question. Minus the nudity, nudism seems like a health camp or a beach resort yet nudists visit these far more often than the average person would a non-nudist health camp or beach resort so there is obviously an appeal to being around naked people. I don't believe this appeal is entirely due to the enjoyment gained by being naked or around the type of people who are not afraid of being naked, there must also be the appeal of seeing other people naked and a significant portion of that must be sexual in nature.

    So how strong is the sexual element of nudism? How do nudist husbands feel about their wives being looked at in a sexual way for instance?
     
  2. dilligaf

    dilligaf Banned

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    you really dont get it do ya?
     
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  3. Utilitarian

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    are you follinwg me around?
     
  4. Cool Spruce

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    That has got to be a part of it, of course. But like with other wonderful things, the erotic part of it stops being up at the top of your consciousness while the other benefits kick in and rise to the top. The erotic feelings must sink lower, otherwise, nothing else would get done! Same thing with being barefoot. On a smaller scale. It always feels good, but after a couple months of it, it stops being intense every single minute of the day, even though the intense sensations can return most any time. I don't know how else to describe this. As one who "bares it," as this forum is called, I haved no other way to describe an answer to your question. Maybe someone else can help.
     
  5. wastingthedawn

    wastingthedawn *~Pure Light~*

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    I think those sexual feelings become the exact same sexual feeling you feel about people who are clothed...Like all of us have sexual feelings and are attracted to some people, but I don't think that is isolated to nudism, cause after you spend like half an hour in a group nude setting your equilibrium just adjusts and that becomes what is normal.
    body no longer=sex.
     
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  6. Cool Spruce

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    That is pretty well said. It's someting like that. I'm one who almost always finds various forms of nudity at least somewhat erotic, but you know, that can happen even when I'm alone and unable to see anyone else; and it isn't constant, by any means. Because like I said earlier, I'd never get anything else done otherwise.
     
  7. Utilitarian

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    But is it ok to stare at someone because you find it erotic? This is much easier when everyone is nude, in everyday people choose how much they want people to view them erotically, muslims where full body dress hiding their curves whilst clubbers will wear short skirts and tight tops. Obviously you can't do this in a nudist camp and it is wrong to say "if you don't want someone to look at you sexually don't come to a nudist camp" because nudism is not 100% about other people viewing you nakedness in a sexual manner.
     
  8. Utilitarian

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    What alternatives are there to this sexual etiquette in nudism?
     
  9. Xiaoyan

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    This is very well said. While nudism is not primarily a sexual activity, there is certainly a sexual element in it. This is unavoidable. Why shouldn't it be? I mean, we don't disconnect ourselves from sexuality even when we're clothed-why in the world should we think that we should be able to when we're nude? Even if we don't engage in nudism for sexual reasons, there's certainly a sexual element in it-why would you expect there not to be?

    You cannot completely disconnect nudism from sexuality, and you shouldn't even try. People that are insisting adamantly that the two are completely unconnected are engaging in a kind of political correctness. That attiutde is the one that's not natural.
     
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    I believe that in nudism, you shouldnt stare and lust but it should be just like if your skin was your clothing :) just my opinion
     
  11. daphnejain

    daphnejain Ink is forever

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    I love going to my (almost) local nude beach and brought my fifteen year old daughter there last year. I think there is less sexuality going on at the nude beach than your average beach. People are there to be comfortable, avoid tan lines and possibly to avoid crowds.

    It's my preferred beach for sure.......
     
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    stare? No way, people don't like it when you stare while fully clothed..

    If you look for sex in it you will find it.
    Kinda like you are what you eat. Put good thoughts in you'll get good out,

    IMO this world is too perverted because of how we are thought to look at the human forum, by The media, Internet, Magazines.

    I have no clue but I think it might help to do look but see it as Art and not sex.
     
  13. Liberal.Spirit

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    Exactly with what Shim has said. If you look for a sexual element in any situation, you'll usually be able to find it.

    when your naked with a bunch of naked people, you don't stare, etc. just like if you were clothed. Or at least, you shouldn't stare because people don't like it...lol
     
  14. Son of John

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    This thread is several months old, but I will respond to it anyway. The first Poster asked the question: "How do nudist husbands feel about other men seeing their wives naked?"

    "Establishment" type nudists will tell you that it doesn't make a difference to "real" nudist husbands if other men see their wives naked. But others have a different perspective. For others, they genuinely enjoy the fact that other men are looking at their wives' naked bodies. Nearly all these men report that they and their wives are more sexually active after a visit to a nudist club or beach. It can only be that they are turned-on by the fact that other men have looked at their wives' nakedness!
     
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    "A nude boby in itself is not sexual, it is the imagination of the observer that makes it sexual"
    Now saying that I will explain, what are you are thinking while glancing at the nude body can be, and most often will be sexual in nature.
    Now some people can and do train themselves not to think in such ways.
    Most nude women I have seen and met I have no trouble with dealing with whatever I see. There are exceptions and I am working on changing that habit, I haven't found myself staring at a woman in a long time and if I am busy I never give it a thought until much later in the day so my training my mind is working.
    It's like window shopping, if you don't have the ability to buy why tease yourself. if it isn't available why insist on aquiring it.
     
  16. Dario Western

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    Hi Utilitarian,

    You know the saying 'birds of a feather flock together'? The same thing can be said for the nudist cultures. Let's face it, if the whole world was clothing optional then nudist camps and resorts would not exist.

    The whole appeal with being around people in the nude is actually a psychological one, not a sexual one. When a person is undressed they are not just exposing their body, but their mind and soul as well.

    As to sexual behaviour, nudist resort management reserves the right to suspend or eject any member who behaves in an untoward manner towards any patron whether it's someone's wives/girfriends or children.

    I think that the best thing that you can do is to go and check out a nudist place in your area, or a beach if you live on the coastal area. You'll find that more often than not most of these places are nothing like what you're expecting.

     
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    A nudist club is no different from the larger society. There is sexuality present, and just like in normal society, it has to be controlled. Some say it is a bit harder to control because everyone is naked, but others say that it easier for that same reason.

    Nudists do not take-off their behavioral standards with their clothes. Nor are they completely beyond questionable behavior just because they are clothed. There have been instances when another guy has "come on" to my wife when she was fully dressed. I suspect that if she had been naked, and everyone else too, that his control mechanism would have kicked in and kept him from going over the line.

    Yes, people at nudist clubs are sexual beings! Yes, they do have sex in their cabins, or after going home. In fact, some informal research has shown that nudist couples have more sex the days following their visit to a nudist club than they would have otherwise.

    And, yes, there are swingers at nudist clubs, but they are usually even more discrete than in other settings. And, if two couples want to get together in their cabins and swap spouses, it is no one else's business.
     
  18. Richmeister

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    Well put, and very accurate.
     
  19. Biggles_Nude!

    Biggles_Nude! Hakuna matata.

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    This is a preposterous question that assumes nudists are sexual deviants.
    There is no sexual intent in being nude if you go to a nudist beach. Every beach will attract an unwanted element, and perverts (even girls do it!) can be found in hiding. I think the OP needs to get his gear off, join a resort/club and fine out what is really going on. The 'textile' beaches near where I live attract a great deal of police attention (thefts, assault, rape etc.) yet the single nudist beach doesn't attract any police attention: if there are perverts, they are dealt with by the real nudists to observe them, watch them get into their cars and take down the details and lodge a report. Empowerment made simple.

    Now to another thing. True, you cannot completely disconnect nudism from sexuality, but you cannot openly be sexual i.e. wander around, sit down an enjoy dinner all the while with a 6" boner! The naked body is sexual in that it shows it in all its detail. It can also be very educational. And just to put you in your place, it's normal for nudists to have a much more active sexual life in private than non-nudists.

    No, it is not OK to stare at someone if you find him/her erotic: do not stare as you are voiding your presence as a legitimate nudist. But you can make eye contact and maybe even strike up a friendship to get to know him/her on mutually agreeable terms: if you like the body there is nothing to stop you commenting on that. Standard fare for naturists in groups. Just don't stare.
     
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    I think there are some people for whom there is always a sexual element to naturism, but for many there is a separation and in general it is not. There is equally a lot of sexual element to the behaviour of many people who are always clothed in public.

    Behaving in an appropriate manner when on beaches and other places where naturism is accepted will ensure that everyone will feel comfortable and not think that naturism is about sex and nothing else. So do not stare, do not follow, don't sit only a few feet away from someone when there is acres of space.

    I have found situations where there are people (usually men) who behave as if naturism is only about sex, and have avoided or stopped going to a couple of beaches and a sauna for this reason. Equally there are many places where I have felt everyone is relaxed and there are no overtly sexual overtones, if there are any at all. I have often found these more relaxed attitudes on the continent, like when I was in France last year.
     

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