Muslims in the uk.

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by Amsterdampromised, Dec 13, 2007.

  1. Amsterdampromised

    Amsterdampromised Member

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    I heard that the number 1 name for new born babies in the UK s muhammed... Are muslims taking over Europe?

    Will the laws of the European Union include Sharia laws in 50 years?
     
  2. Peace-Phoenix

    Peace-Phoenix Senior Member

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    That's not true. Jack is the most popular name for boys, followed by Thomas, Joshua, Oliver and Harry. Mohammad is in the top twenty. There are roughly 2 million Muslims living in the UK out of a population of 60 million. I hardly think that's a significant proportion. Moreover you make a mistake to equate the presence of a Muslim population with pressure towards shari'ah, which either highlights the ignorance of your sources or your own ignorance or, most likely, both. In 50 years time, I strongly doubt the EU, with its adherence to human rights legislation, will come to incorporate shari'ah. The greatest most likely expansion of the Muslim population of the EU will come from Turkey's accession. Turkey eschews shari'ah, it is a secular society, with strict seperation between religion and state. Much stricter than in the UK. Whilst we have an established church, Turkey has banned religious symbols, such as the hijab, from government spaces.
     
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  3. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    ^^
    Peace said it all

    I realy dont know where all these people get their concerns from :confused: It must be like some kind of Chinese whisper started by a few racists or something, and the peoples perception becoms more distorted the further down the chain it goes

    Because seriously, this country is not being "overrun" by any group of people from outside and even if it was, itd be nothing to fret about

    Ooh i duno:rolleyes: i need a cupa tea

    EDIT: I mean im not calling you racist man. Ive heard people say these kinds of things too, like the name Mohammad and whatever. But theyre not true
     
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  4. dapablo

    dapablo redefining

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    Putting my name alongside Peace also, hamster jam or whatever your called, you are just scaremongering.
     
  5. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    Hamster jam:D hehe
     
  6. phoenix_indigo

    phoenix_indigo dreadfully real

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    hamsterjam sounds alot like England and supercaliwhatsit ;)


    i'd also add that, i wouldn't be surprised if some of the Muslims come to places like England to try to escape shari'ah law, if they are under a government with that type of law and don't like it.
     
  7. Power_13

    Power_13 insult ninja

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    It's half and half. Mohammed would be the most popular name in the UK, but everybody knows that Muslims are baby eaters, so the population that survives to be named is smaller than the gross number of those born.
     
  8. J0hn

    J0hn Phantom

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    Greetings. I think that Muslims living in the Uk is a good thing. They can contribute to society, perhaps more than fellow Christians. However, the number one name is probably Muhammed. It is the same name as the prophet.

    In recent years, muslims have been persecuted and made to look as though they might pose a risk to society. personally, I find them more hospitable than any samaritan I have ever met. There is a programme coming soon on being a muslim. I would certainly like to know more about islam. I am not stuck to one religion. So I can open my mind to religions across the board.
     
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  9. Peace-Phoenix

    Peace-Phoenix Senior Member

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    I am. I'm calling Hamsterjam a racist. And if he's not a racist, then his views can only be put down to idiocy....
     
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  10. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    well clearly the anti christian sentiments expressed in this thread are racism too if you define islam as a race .

    also http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2211194,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=11 plans to expand the eu to the middle east and north africa by 2030 this seems to back up what bat yoer said for years about plans for eurabia .

    The middle east isnt secular and turkey is in a constant battle to remain secular, you have a 1400 year history of invasion and conflict including the recent wars in yugoslavia do a search on youtube for bosnian war if you dont remember what that was like .

    you have enclaves being created all over europe and regular rioting


    if we have plans for the middle east and north africa to join the eu by 2030 then yes its very likely we will have some form of shariah if we dont which is just as likely have a series of balkan type wars all over europe .

    before that you can expect more riots , more restricton of free speech more authors being murdered

    already you have no free speech in the uk even when the people voted for it channel four wouldnt show a cartoon of mohammed this was clearly out of fear of islam .
    newpapers wouldnt print the mohammed cartoon because they were told by the police they couldnt protect them .

    The march for free expression was also told by the police they couldnt protect them if they had placards of the thing they were trying to defend .

    we have one of our most famous authors in hiding for nearly 20 years, and none of the people who drove him into hiding convicted in fact they are honoured and in some cases knighted .

    clearly it is in our culture to be able to draw pictures of historical characters ,and we are being imposed on by a hostile religion political system useing threats to get its way , if you give in to threats which is what we have done and you continue on that path you have lost your culture
     
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  11. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    It would be highly unconventional to define Islam as a race and I don't think that's what anyone is doing here.

    Questions like "are muslims taking over Europe" and repeating blatant propagandist lies like "Mohammed is the number one name in the UK" though are clearly coming from a position of essentialism usually founded in racist, or at the very least xenophobic prejudice. I think that's what's being got at.

    The rest of your post was scaremongering rubbish, jonny... you add two and two and get about 416.
     
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  12. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    I cut down a lot of what I was going to post about film on youtube of islamic riots all over europe also on the difference in birthrate which you see boasted about on islamic sites as they see it as a way of taking over the uk and europe .

    mohammed is second in boys names in the uk according to that racist propaganda rag the times of london and is likely to be number one boys name in the uk next year .

    you will find that fact all over jihadi sites they seem mighty proud about it


    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1890354.ece
     
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  13. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    Who cares what a few nutcases on forums think, probably teenage boys alone in their Bradford bedrooms who download porn when they aren't playing jihadi. The figures just don't add up, try as they might to take over the UK by having lots of babies, their kids I'm afraid will be more interested in Nintendo Wii and MacDonalds than blowing themselves up. Invasion by means of differential birthrate, so their grandkids' grandkids might be in a position to mount an attack on Brussels and Parliament Square in the year 2300? Stop being so very silly.
     
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  14. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    go to iran where you get fast food and computer games and people being stoned to death if thats all youve got its a pretty puny defence .
     
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  15. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    Why is it puny? The fact of second and third generations of immigrant families integrating beyond all recognition into the societies they have adopted is well established and well known. If you want to make the case that these particular immigrant families will on aggregate behave differently to every other immigrant family for thousands of years you'll need to provide some cogent reasoning and evidence not just barefaced assertion and a very dodgy understanding of both mathematics and international politics...
     
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  16. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    sigh
    some groups dont integrate showmet if you want to talk history we have a 1400 year history of conflict with islam , the last big invasion was defeated at the gates of vienna in the 17th century .
    look at bosnia open your eyes to whats happening when muslims are a small minority in the uk and europe .
    apostates are being targeted in the uk as are many mixed marriages if its a muslim women non muslim man, that doesnt say to me any real desire for integration.

    but whatever I say doesnt matter because traitors have already made up their minds most likely to expand the eu to the middle east and north africa .

    I dont think i can convince you and even if I did it wont stop things.

    the first one of these has some beheaded people just stills but thats from the most mixed religious area in europe or was before the civil war
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4rT_0EltOxY&feature=related
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=li8fuNGTAz0
     
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  17. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    As regards the EU any accession beyond current frontiers will require, as with the recent/proposed accession states, certain minimum requirements before countries will be allowed to be a part of the European community, these include basic human rights and democratic processes. The suggestion that any expansion of the EU into the areas you mention will mean the EU will adopt their system and ditch its own is a laughable misunderstanding of the EU and international relations generally, and talk of "traitors" is absurd jingoism. Any expansion of the EU will bring these countries up to our standards not lower ours to theirs.
     
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  18. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    people here are freaking out over the latino influence on american culture. wtf? fyou aren't losing anything, you're gaining something else. let it go. societies grow, absorb, and move on. some people just get freaked out over their supposed loss of identity.
     
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  19. J0hn

    J0hn Phantom

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    I read my bible again last night. It warns not to listen to false teachings. But when I read the Quaran, I was to be honest, concerned about certain verses. Whether peace is only acheivable through war?
     
  20. dapablo

    dapablo redefining

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    What all of it, your running a line mate.
     

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