Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

Astrology questions and concepts megathread




  • Please log in to reply
106 replies to this topic

#1 Enlil6

Enlil6

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 651 posts

Posted November 30 2007 - 10:35 AM

A while back I suggested an Astrology FAQ thread. I want this thread to be about questions on astrological concepts and astrology in general. I will not read people's charts, but I don't mind doing quick lookups to explain what certain areas are. A moderator PMed me and agreed to sticky this.

I will periodically post small articles or posts explaining certain concepts.

I welcome contributions from others. My main area of interest is traditional (pre 18th century) astrology. I know Astroteacher, a member of this board, is traditional astrologer and knows more than I, but think I post more.

There are a few more mainstream astrologers running around as well.

So let the thread commence!

#2 Enlil6

Enlil6

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 651 posts

Posted November 30 2007 - 11:13 AM

What is your sign?

Most people know their Sun sign. One of the reasons why this is so popular, is that it takes no knowledge of astrology whatsoever to know your Sun sign. Born on March 23? All you have to do is open your local newspaper and look for the sign that contains that date. Presto!

Sun signs were not used for character delineation in traditional astrology. This is purely a modern invention, though exactly when and why it started I can't answer. Suffice it to say there is no information about Sun signs in any of the older astrology books I've read.

The Sun was very much used for many things in the old days. For instance, if you wanted to find out about someone's father in their birth chart, the Sun represented the father if the person was born during the day.

What was the alternative? Rising signs - also known as the ascendant!

The rising sign is the sign on the eastern horizon at the moment of birth. The east is symbolic of birth in many cultures since it is from the east where the all the stars and planets arise.

Simply put, in traditional astrology, the rising sign represents "you". In most cases, if I want to find out the state of of someone, I look at the planet that rules their rising sign.

In modern astrology, the Sun represents you and the rising sign represents how others see you.

However I think the rising sign is a much more elegant way of finding information.

First of all it is more individualistic. Rising signs change roughly every two hours and are dependant on where you were born. So two people born on the same second of the same day may have different rising signs if they live in different cities. The disadvantage of Sun signs is that everyone born within a month of each other regardless of location is the same. I don't feel this reflects the reality of people's individuality.

Second, it is a nice way to quickly see what is helping or afflicting someone. If a planet representing sickness is afflicting the planet ruling your rising sign, I know there is a problem. If a planet representing wealth has a good aspect with your ruling planet, I know things will come easily to you.

In traditional astrology, you don't get the "what's your sign" question coming up. The rising sign will be a major indicator of certain things, but even that doesn't give you the whole picture. You still need to look at the entire chart to get any detail.

#3 Gretsch87

Gretsch87

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 56 posts

Posted December 03 2007 - 09:20 AM

That's probably why many people todoay dismiss and critisize astrology for being invalid and not very practical but that's due to lack of knowledge on their part in that they think the sun sign is all there is to a person's astrological makeup.

#4 Enlil6

Enlil6

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 651 posts

Posted December 03 2007 - 12:09 PM

That's probably why many people todoay dismiss and critisize astrology for being invalid and not very practical but that's due to lack of knowledge on their part in that they think the sun sign is all there is to a person's astrological makeup.


That's precisely it!

#5 Gretsch87

Gretsch87

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 56 posts

Posted December 03 2007 - 12:39 PM

On a further note, they ask, "well how do the position of the planets have any effect on me whatsoever..." Well, same way the moon effects the oceans tide, the same way the planets effect the range of our musical note system - ever heard of the music of the spheres?, and also that earth has a frequency of its own (schuman resonance) and how it correlates to our own brain waves. It's all so very interesting i think.

#6 Gretsch87

Gretsch87

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 56 posts

Posted December 03 2007 - 12:40 PM

The sun even effects our own seasonal changes...

#7 Enlil6

Enlil6

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 651 posts

Posted December 03 2007 - 03:03 PM

The sun even effects our own seasonal changes...


The Sun is the cause of the seasons.

I ascribe to the traditional notion of planetary spirits. You can't say that gravity or magnetism from planets is causing the effects since that can be measured, and with the exception of the Moon and Sun, all gravitational effects are negligible.

#8 Gretsch87

Gretsch87

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 56 posts

Posted December 04 2007 - 01:47 AM

I guess what i meant is the energy exerted?

#9 Gretsch87

Gretsch87

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 56 posts

Posted December 04 2007 - 01:47 AM

and yea lol, the sun IS the cause of seasonal changes...very poorly worded indeed.

#10 MyEulogy

MyEulogy

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 75 posts

Posted December 04 2007 - 10:03 AM

if ascendant is that important what if it was poorly aspected? like leo rising that squares mars and squares pluto? how woudl you describe a person like that?




Click to shop at Royal Queen Seeds