Posted November 24 2007 - 10:16 AM
Posted November 24 2007 - 08:28 PM
...ladies and gentlemen...
...I can't find the words to describe it...
Posted November 24 2007 - 08:51 PM
Posted November 24 2007 - 11:52 PM
LSD show you an expanded view of this world, Salvia takes you to a different world.
LSD is ecstatic, Salvia is neutral or unpleasant.
LSD insight = "life is sacred", salvia insight = "life is a meaningless hoax".
Posted November 25 2007 - 03:08 AM
i wouldn't have a year ago, but i think you can only go so far with salvia until you start remembering it afterwards... and i think people who say the whole experience is good or even neutral only remember maybe 5%. it's so difficult to comprehend, it's really a fight to remember any of it beyond "it was weird". but the more you do it, the more familiar it becomes. there came a time for me, at least, when every time i'd find myself thinking "i told myself last time not to do this again and this is why!" and eventually it really sunk in and i stopped.
LSD, i don't know, maybe it's possible that the same could happen with way too heavy use. but i really doubt it. salvia seems to me to show you how reality *could* be in a way that makes you want to kiss the ground once you get back because that's not how it really is. it made me so grateful to have all the freedom and possibilites in this reality. LSD seems to show the present reality as it could be, in a how-it-really-is way. it's a reality you can work towards, a reality that seems like it must have always been there without your noticing. just an atom's width away.
read the book Flatland if you're interested , i think of salvia as being just like losing a dimension or two, and LSD is like going "up" a dimension. in salvialand there is absolutely less than you believed, and on LSD there is absolutely more than you believed...
i would choose one hit of weak LSD over 500 grams of salvia. hands down. not to say there isn't a lot to be learned from salvia, but, like i said, once you really start remembering your trips your attitude towards them will probably change...
When the earth was still flat
and the clouds made of fire
and the mountains stretched up to the sky
folks roamed the earth
like big rolling kegs
they had two sets of arms
they had two sets of legs
they had two faces peering out of one giant head
so they could watch all around them
as they talked while they read
and they never knew nothing of love
it was before
the origin of love
Posted November 25 2007 - 03:38 AM
Posted November 25 2007 - 04:37 PM
LSD is not at all like becoming a door or a conveyor belt or any of the other crazy shit people always report after a salvia trip. LSD is a traditional psychedelic. Psychedelic means "mind manifesting." Everything that is becomes what it already is times 10. You will feel your body in a whole new way. You will feel your mind in a whole new way. You will experience love and hatred, pleasure and pain, amusement and boredom, light and dark, and everything else infinitely more intensely than ever before. Children and animals become the most magical, beautiful creatures when you're tripping. Dirty, grimey things become repulsive (at least to me). It's a totally different thing. LSD gives you unparalleled access to the functions of the mind and our reality in general, whereas salvia is just a crazy fucking feeling that I really had no desire to repeat.
Posted November 25 2007 - 05:33 PM
I love Salvia and I think it can give you a great meaning to life, it just depends on the person and the setting.
I do want to try acid at least once in my lifetime tho.
Posted November 25 2007 - 05:43 PM
Posted November 25 2007 - 06:36 PM
Holy shit dude. This, more than any other comment I've ever heard anyone make about salvia, tells me I should never do salvia again.
If anything The only Drug Saliva is comparable to is Smoking a large amount of strong Angel Dust-PCP ? The Saliva trip kind of reminds me or smoking way to much Strong Angel Dust and getting stuck.
Posted November 25 2007 - 06:46 PM