I discoverd this forum on accident. so i decided to register. I am a 17 soonti be 18 year old dude from west virginia and getting ready to be a MARINE. During my erlyer years of my teenage life...i had very libral sexual beliefs. but..thankfuly...i kept my virginity. until i met my one and only love. No me and her are planning to get married and raise a child soon. we believe with all our hearts that we are soul mates.... and i gve her my virginity because i LOVE her...it's more than love what we have. i cnt say im sorry if i offend anyone on hear but alot of you disguest me. double penitration? ....sex orgy? WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!???? thei is no love in any of those things. Sex is something special...something sacred.....a ceramony to be performed only with the one you truly love...you are at your most vulnrable...you are literaly givinh your self to another person to be come one.....And it's a sick violation of the sacred act when you engage in promiscuity or orgys or double penitration etc. it's fucking sick. their is absoulutly no love in that...that's not love making...it's just fuckin for pleasure. People complain about how society is going down hill...well libral sexuality is a major reason....no one seems to view sex as something sacred...all of the specialness is took out of it....it sadens me to hear about dudes who go to parties and fuck alot of chicks or just hook up with chicks for a night. Teenager are to imature to handle sex...and then we grow up to be sick fucks who want double penitration and orgys and shit. It's sad that this culture lets this go on, influences it, even encouarges it! this is one reason among many why civilizations fail. the sacred things are forgoten and meanings are lost. every thing becomes one sellfish shit ball because of it. it's my belief that civilization is wrong and evil to begin with...but that's a whole other issue i dont feel like getting into right now. alot of you hippie folk are no better than the fat selfish politicians that you hate so much...you're both contributing to humanites down fall instead of helping it.
First of all, i edited your post to remove the harassment from it. calling people fucking sick is not accepted on this forum. Second of all, i disagree with you on nearly all your points. Sex can be about giving yourself to the one you love, if thats the belief you hold. not everyone holds that belief, to some sex is no different than say, a back massage, and why should it be any different? we all view things differently, and society is a a collection of people beliefs interacting with eachother. sex before love may be a downfall to your personal perfect society, but no casual sex is a downfall of many others idea of what a perfect societty should be like. To others still, you had sex before marriage and that would be a downfall of societty. at 17 im sure you think you know the world, but i assure you, you still have a lot of growing up and learning to do, as do i. you name me one societty that collapsed as a direct or indirect result of sex without love and maybe you'll have an arguement worth persuing, without that, all you have is an opinion without any supporting arguements and you arent gonna win anyone over that way.
sorry for the hassment..when i get angry i get men i guess... i didnt men the it was a soul result of a societies down fall..i meant it was a contributing factor... i know im young and have alot to learn .... anywas..take the roman empire for example....because of their liberality....and lose of the sacred everytihg became selfish...and and a result the whole infastucre colalpsed...and it started again. i guess i cant really win any one over and i dont realy have any proof for my beliefs but i just felt like putting them out there..... sorry for clling people fucking sick...i wont do it again...
and by the way i dont believe in a perfect society...i think any manifestation of civilization is bad...
So you think that society is going to collapse due to the fact that some people view sex as more of a physically pleasing act than that of love? Sexual beliefs are like religion if you ask me. Everyone has different views and opinions and everyone is entitled to have those different views and opinions. So if someone wants to take 4 dicks in the ass all at once. GO AHEAD! With the exception of rape and anything involving underage children, there aren't many sexual taboos I'm against.
Congratulations. You're 17 and you've got a steady girlfriend/fiancee, a promising military career in front of you, and the best part is that you're happy about all of it. Your views on sex as a sacred thing are noble, it's great that you haven't succumbed to your more carnal desires, you're probably a very disciplined and upstanding young man. That being said, I don't appreciate the sentiment behind your accusations of our "contributing to humanities down fall [sic]". Eventually we all need to learn that people think differently about things than we do. Some people may choose to worship a different god than you, others might be gay instead of straight, some of them may smoke things you don't smoke, and some of them may think that love can work in different ways than you think. Raise a child while you go away into the military at 18 and leave a girl alone? Smart move chief. And I'm sure at 17 (but almost 18, don't worry, you're almost a "legal" adult) you know what you want for your entire life. Never mind if you change your mind, the divorce rate is only 50%. You talk about a giant societal upheaval, something to topple civilization itself, and you think sex is the problem at hand? Get some perspective kid, don't enter the military thinking you'll be fighting sex in foreign countries instead of terrorists. It's called progressive thinking. That's what it boils down to, it's very rational, actually. Here's a mock thought process that should seem familiar. "This activity feels good." -> "What do I enjoy about this activity?" -> "This activity is fun. I would like to explore it some more." -> "I have found a variation of this activity that feels better to me. I enjoy doing this activity." If you close your mind off to everything you just might die a fool, and that's a fate that no man deserves. No, having good Christian-missionary-lights-off-romantic-birth-intended-only-post-marital sex while you have a head cold is fucking sick. A lot of you West Virginians live in trailers and start drinking at 9 o'clock in the morning and don't know how to raise a child and ultimately create more of your ilk, spreading the disease of closed-mindedness and hatred of your fellow humans. So if you don't like us, go back, we don't want you.
i dont hate anyone.. im not a redneck christian.. and yes West Virgina is not the gretest... i've lived in trailers..i come from what you might call trailer trsh...but my mom wanted a better life...she had to drop out of school in the 9th...some time later she got her ged...then atended college...she's now a doctor....my Love is not pregnant yet...we gonna concive when i come back from basic....im sorry if i misrepresent my self...im not a hating dude and i know that ill end up in iraq...i dont believe in the war...but the military is a part of me...i must be in it...so when i end up there ill do what i hve to do to survive. ill try to lay of ofensiveness on my other posts...some of my friends are hippieish...i dont hate them..i hate no one...im a complex person sorry... i aprreciate other peoples views...other cultures...i love learning about new ideas and and cultures and philosophies. im a pretty open minded person. if you get to know me =)
to be honest, i think that close-mindedness does more damage to society and its particiipants than being open or liberal about things. for example, homophobia/gay bashing can do a great deal more damage (what was the suicide rate of gay men vs straight men again? forget the details but it is MUCH higher for gay men) than saying "yes, ok, youre two guys who enjoy buttsex, good for you two, im not involved and no ones getting hurt so do what you want, thats cool with me"
You seem pretty closed minded, your still very young. And im glad you think you have found true love. But the truth is the age you are at is a time where you will be changing very much, very quickly. And before you know it, your values and ideals will have changed. Best of luck to you in holding up your values. And if you believe in one "true love" and getting married young, good job because you are probally going to add to the already skyrocketting divorce rate. I agree with allonym, closemindedness does more damage. Keep your thoughts to yourself, if you are opposed to anything on here, why look at it, could it be that you are interested? haha caught ya!
Wait did i read this right, you want to get your fiance pregnant when you get back from basic. do you know the military works, you will be gone at least 4 years, and she will be pregnant and having a child in that time? If this is the case, how are plans like this, that (solely my opinion) lead to a life of poverty, a single mother, if the husband ( 18 years old!!!!) is away in the marines, not making to omuch, how is she going to continue her education, have time for achild. WHY would you want to have a child at such a young age, and if you wont even be there to help except give money? Do i have this right, im sorry i dont. this baffles me
you're an idoit, we're geting married, ill they'll give us a house on the base im stationed, if i get deployed it'll be for 6-8 months then i come back, i can look to be deployed at least once during my 4 year contract, you are the one who dosent know how the military works, not me.
What about the loophole thats keeping my friend in Iraq while his new wife sits in kentucky alone and friendless and away from her family. Same with my friend in Hawai...no family, hardly any friends, and a baby that shes raising alone on base. Its an awful place to leave your family, and what if you dont come back? you just want to leave you wife with no home (when you die she gets kicked off base) you need to think things threw hun plz... and hey if you dont like orgys the rest of us will just have them for you. (yes that is a joke)
How about my friend who joined the marines and had been in Japan for almost a year? Would you ship her out there too? What a great life, a teenage mother and a husband in the army. whats the point of getting married if you are going to be working full time, and having a kid? wouldnt you want to enjoy marriage. I am being respectful to you on here and not calling you names, i would like to have the same respect from you, or mabe your not mature enough to discuss your life on a forum without throwing around insults. Why are you even here?
Welcome and good luck with your military career Congratulations on finding your soul mate and saving yourself for her The offensive parts have been edited so I must rely on my imagination to fill in the blanks. My immediate gut reaction is- who the hell qualified you to judge the morality of anyone else? There are those who would look at your engaging in premarital sex and make similar judgments toward you and your betrothed. Good for you that you can take a step beyond stifling sexual morals of staunch religious conservatives and realize sexual freedom on your own terms but imposing those terms on others and pronouncing judgment on them- calling their practices disgusting or immoral is playing the same game- except that you're applying your own set of ethics on them. This stiflingly narrow and intolerant view on the practices of others speaks volumes on your mindset. Should we all acquiesce to your proclamation now that you seem to have installed yourself as the supreme judge of what's good and moral about what other people do? It's my belief that part of what is accelerating society's downhill spiral is those among us who imagine themselves qualified to cast judgment on those they know nothing about other than their set of beliefs and practices are different. This is the flash point of many conflicts that can escalate... you're 17- close to 18 and are proving your own point, being a teenager yourself. Too late- you've gotten into it already... and narrow, hateful mindsets like yours are contributing exactly what to society? I read that your love may already be pregnant? Great... you can have an opportunity to impress your hateful intolerant mindset onto an innocent human being. If fatherhood awaits you within the next nine months I sincerely hope you acquire some wisdom and ability to respect some boundaries before you get the opportunity to shape the character of your child.
Careful here- misspelling notwithstanding, this is a personal attack... we expect our members to treat one another with respect.
I've never understood exactly why people who dislike certain things in life have to tell people who do like them that it is unmoral and wrong. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion I think. But congrats on the future wife and kid! I think the military might not be the best place for you or your family, but thats just my opinion.