Ask A Pedophile thread

"I'm here to answer questions and dispel myths and stereotypes associated with pedophilia."

To what end? I've got some advice for you. If you are sexually attracted to children quit wasting your time on the internet and get yourself some medical attention before you hurt someone. I'll agree that it's a mental health issue and needs treatment like any other illness but just like drug addiction and depression and other psych issues it's up to the person who is ill to get help. Saying that, I completely respect your right to free speech and will consider your posts with an open mind. I just hope you understand I think (since we both have the right to speak our mind) that if someone knows they have an illness, won't seek treatment, and then commit an illegal act that could potentially ruin someones life then they belong in prison. That's not an accusation, just a statement. btw, what Ancient Hippie posted was meant to help parents protect their children, not to pigeonhole pedophiles. Personally I think (more hope) you're just someone posting this to guage people's reaction.

 

Peds should be executed AS SOON AS THEY'RE CAUGHT. Period.

But this is America so they're released back into the general population. Nice huh?

 

You are more humane than I am.
I could think of punishments far worse than death.
The ACLU would never allow it,
even if the criminal is someone who likes to play "naked games" with little kids.

Please be advised that this post is not directed at the original poster,
but rather, is in reference to the pedophile community in general.

 

This is just sick. Paedophiles should not be given ANY RIGHTS, people should know where they live/work/visit. And if they just happen to get beaten the shit out of by a member of public then so be it.
Tom

 

I think NotAMonster's main point is that there is a difference between paedophiles and child-molesters. He said himself:

and:

He keeps within the law. Maybe it's just when he's walking down the street and see's a young child he get's urges, or thoughts he knows he shouldn't have. He doesn't act on them, and probably tries to fight the thoughts themselves.

Whose to say he isn't doing just that? Several members of my family are alcoholics. Those who got help, and hence stopped drinking, still consider themselves alcoholics. Still go to meetings, call their sponsor, whatever. Once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic. You might never drink again, but you'll always want to. There'll always be the chance you'll fall back off the wagon.
Maybe NotAMonster is getting help, but he's still a paedophile, and probably always will be. Counselling, group meetings.etc., might help him deal with his problem and keep it under control, but it won't make it disappear. He might be getting help, but he's still a paedophile, so he could still start this thread. Even if he left now, and started getting "medical attention" for 10 years, he'd still be a paedophile, and could still come back and repost this thread with it still being valid.
Maybe he isn't getting help. Can you blame him(maybe you can, but I'm sure you can understand his reasons for not)? He hasn't done anything wrong, and he hasn't broken any laws. It's his thoughts that need fixing. Thoughts that probably disgust him once they've passed, and thoughts he has had to keep secret for G-d knows how long. He goes to a doctor, or counsellor, and maybe a child in his area does get raped. Somehow, the police trace it back to him, and through the investigation his problem becomes a public shame, even though he did nothing. Or maybe he goes to a group meeting, and someone see's him.

He seems to be someone who knows such thoughts are wrong, and who won't ever act on them. He claims to never have till now. If someone posted saying he was a child-rapist, well then I'd have a problem. He hasn't done that.

 

I see the word MAYBE six different times in this post.
I could come up with some hypothetical situations about the original poster too, but it might be considered a personal attack. MAYBE my post would be deleted if I did that. Or MAYBE not.

 

I'm assuming you mean that he isn't just a paedophile, but a child-molester too? Based on what? He claims to be a paedophile, who doesn't look at child-porn, who has never had sex with a child, and who lives within the law. Why jump to the conclusion that he has raped a child, or any of the other "hypothetical situations" you could come up with? I used the word "maybe" so often because 1.)I don't know what it's like to be a paedophile, and 2.) I don't know what it's like to be this particular paedophile. He isn't saying sex with children is okay, or even that paedophilia is okay, he's saying he has a problem, he fights with it every day, and he's not a monster. He's done no real world harm(based on what he says, although obviously that's not enough for you...obviously having a desire is akin to living it out with you), so why vilify him for thoughts and desires whose appearance he has no control over, yet which he fights on a daily basis?

pedophile: an adult who is sexually attracted to children
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

The original poster, and paedophiles in general, are attracted to children. It doesn't mean they've assaulted them. Are you suggesting someone should be executed for their thoughts and desires, for thought crime? How very orwellian.

Again, thought crime. I assume you mean child-molestors should be given no rights? Should murderers be given rights? Rapists?
I'm not saying such people should not be punished, but they should still have rights. They are still people after all. Let's not lower ourselves to the level of savages.

If I was to say " Please be advised that this post is not directed at the original poster,
but rather, is in reference to the african-american/Jewish/female community in general", when an african-american/Jewish/female started a topic, it would seem to be less offensive to the original poster, but on second reading would reveal itself to be much more offensive, to the poster and the community you're insulting. Yes, paedophiles have a problem. Yes, they can be dangerous. But many of them, perhaps including the original poster here, have not and will never do any wrong in the real world.

I hate paedophilia, but I also hate the knee-jerk reaction that comes with any mention of it. I've seen it on every forum I visit where the topic comes up. Poster after poster saying "They should be shot", "Yeah, they should be hung", "I can think of punishments much worse than death!", without anyone stopping to say it's a problem that needs help, paedophiles are people too, and even if someone is a child-molester, they have rights too, and should be punished within the laws we have created for ourselves...you know, the ones that help seperate us from animals, or savages. It just reminds me of the South Park episode with the time-immigrants with eveyone at the rallies saying "Now, come on people, we've got to think! Damnit, they took our jobs!","They took our jaorbs!", "Dey Tuk R Jarbs!".

Hmmm...for a forum supposedly populated by hippies, I'm sensing a lot of unnecessary hostility here.

 

So you're going to try to convince people that a ped would never molest a kid if given the chance? I'm not buying it. If they're attacted to children they'd molest them too. You know it.

Oh and that South Park episode was a friggin' RIOT!

 

No, I'm saying there are some who would, and some, who through self-control and discipline would resist any of their urges no matter how strong. Everybody has violent urges...not everybody is a serial killer.

 

Was that when Cartman joined NAMBLA?

 

You even have "Hippie" in your name, but a bit of Peace & Love, of tolerance, seems to be beyond you.

 

I consider this a personal attack.

 

I just saw a fellow poster who was getting a bit more flack than he deserved, and did what I felt was right.

 

Peds aren't going to resist (IMHO) and I'm not talking killers here just peds/child molesters which to *ME* are just as bad as killers and don't deserve to be living on this planet.

Haveing a violent urge and killing are 2 different things. Different thread fodder. A ped if given the chance WILL molest. there is no doubt in my mind about it.

 

2 facts here

1) Pedophiles exist
2) children when having sex with an adult, get hurt and damaged in all manner of ways and sometimes will get killed.

I have zero tolerance for anyone that goes and finds children and has sex with them.

However we can't have it both ways, the best ways to make sure that something is managed is to know what we are dealing with and to talk about it openly.
so if someone says they are attracted to children we can still express a disgust of this and be honest, but we can still listen.
Because by listening we learn and we find ways of dealing with this, if anyone on this thread wants to chase the original poster off the forums, then they are avoiding dealing with an issue that affects us all.

A few more maybe's
maybe this is one big joke
but maybe this isn't, maybe by being open on a site where no one knows him, its his way of trying to get help.

maybe no one wants to help him and would prefere to lable him as a dirty Ped, but beware, once you start doing this, this is when a group will retreat and hide away.
I would rather be open and honest with a group of people rather than chase them away and not know where they have gone too.

I think having sex with children is sick, but I don't want to kill and torture people that have such feelings, I want them to be able to live in a society where they can openly get help before it is too late and a child gets hurt
S

 

Skip, as much as I agree with the point of that last post...this is HF and logic is the LAST thing that pops up in a debate here.

I personally think the OP did this as a prank. Just like 75% of threads just like this one. He or she is trying to get a rise out of us.

Considering the slim chance that they are serious...why is everyone so quick to pass judgement? I spend a lot of time thinking about bank robbery yet, I have never robbed a bank and I'm 99.9% certain I never will. So, am I a criminal?

This is all very "Minority Report", don't you think?

 

I sat on a jury once, and the charge was conspiracy. The judge gave us an example:

Two old men are lying in a nursing home, both terminally ill, with no chance of ever moving from their beds again.

One says to the other. "We should rob a bank"
The other says "Thats a good idea, lets do it"

They are both guilty of conspiracy under the RECO Act.

So, I guess if you didn't make plans with someone,
and you actually don't rob a bank, you are still not a criminal.

 

Which proves my theory that Phillip K. Dick was a prophet rather than a novelist.