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#1 jimmy69

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Posted June 13 2007 - 07:41 PM

from what I've heard, acetaminophen is toxic in high doses to the liver. how do I extract the acetaminophen from hydrocodone pills?
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Posted June 13 2007 - 08:43 PM

What he says is good advice. You'd be safe to 3 grams, but I've heard of some people reacting very badly to 5 grams, and on top of that Acetaminophen is extremely bad for your liver at doses like that.

Extraction is good but if you don't really have a tolerance taking it with the APAP is fine, as long as you're not doing it day to day.

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Posted June 14 2007 - 07:33 PM

ok, thanks
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Posted June 30 2007 - 12:01 PM

from what I've heard, acetaminophen is toxic in high doses to the liver. how do I extract the acetaminophen from hydrocodone pills?


Here, man. This can be used for anything with tylenol, but the example is for Codeine, like T 3's. The reason for doing this is so you can take qty's of the shit all at once (and thus get blasted!) and avoid fucking up your liver! It really works great...

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The Poor Man's Guide to OTC Codeine Extraction

Introduction:
Variations of this particular method have been posted in the past. This method has been refined to ensure the most effective extraction with the least amount of loss. It has also been confirmed by chemical analysis at a University lab.

This method is for ingestion only. If one were to inject the resulting brew into their bloodstream, they would likely suffer some rather unpleasant effects such as fluid buildup in their lungs and possibly death. You have been warned.

This method has been simplified for the layperson, and does not go into complex explanations of the chemical interactions and solubility factors involved in this process. Information on the scientific principals behind this process are beyond the scope of this document. For more detailed information regarding these issues, refer to the "further reading" section at the end of this guide.


The Theory:
Acetaminophen and codeine are both fairly soluble in water. Codeine will dissolve in both hot and cold water. Acetaminophen (and aspirin too) on the other hand, will not.

The minimum temperature for acetaminophen to dissolve in water is a good 5-10 degrees higher than codeine. Therefore, if one were to lower the temperature of the water to below the minimum solubility temperature of the acetaminophen, then one would be left with a codeine/water mixture, with the acetominophen falling to the bottom.

One could conclude that by dissolving acetaminophen/codeine pills in hot water, and then cooling the solution, one could separate the two compounds, and filter the resulting liquid to entirely remove the acetaminophen.


The Methodology:
Step one: Grab some Tylenol #1 or AC&C caplets from your local pharmacy. These are available in most countries with the exception of the United States . Some American states do sell 8mg codeine/300mg tylenol tablets, but require that release forms be signed to track your usage and "protect" you.

Step two: Crush a respectable amount of the pills into a fine powder. Each pill only has 8mg of codeine, so base your dosage on your tolerance for this type of chemical. Beginners could probably get a good rally from around 12-20 tablets.

Step three: Place the resulting pill-powder into a glass of fairly hot, but not boiling, water. Hot tap water should do the trick. Stir. Make sure most of the powder dissolves. Any powder that does not dissolve after vigorous mixing will most likely be acetaminophen. So not to worry.

Step four: Allow the mixture to cool to room-temperature. Bringing the temperature down too fast will reduce the effectiveness of the process. That's why we let the mixture cool to room temperature first before proceeding to...

Step five: Place the mixture in the freez er and allow it to cool to the point where it is just above freezing. Anywhere from five to ten celsius is good. In an average freezer, this could take up to half an hour. No need to accurately measure the temperature, as long as it "feels cold" then it should be OK.

Step six: Take the cooled liquid out, and slowly filter it into another container. If you don't have any good chemical filters, a coffee filter will do nicely. For best results, use Melita natural brown coffee filters. They aren't bleached, and will allow for a more pure end-result. Once the filtration process is complete, take a look at the filter. The resulting powder left on the filter is the acetaminophen.

Step seven: Take the resulting brew and drink it down. It will taste very bitter. You can try throwing some kool-aid mix in with it, or even mix it with some strong chocolate milk to cut the flavour. Alternatively, you can drink it straight and "chase" it with some cola, much like any other foul tasting substance.


The Test:
The liquid solution produced by the extraction process was shown to have almost no traces of acetaminophen whatsoever (less than ~1% of the original content). The analisys indicated that the mixture consisted of codeine, water, caffeine, and cornstartch. Cornstartch is apparently used as a binding agent in the pills themselves, and as such made its way into the final product.





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