There are now NEW RULES for this forum as a result of it being abused by fundamentalist Christian recruiting agents for their own agenda. NO PROSELITIZING! We don't want to hear why WE need to follow Jesus. You like him, fine, keep it to yourself. We are not sheep around here, get used to it! NO WITNESSING! We don't want to hear about your personal experiences with Jesus. We don't need to know how he "saved" you. That's not what this forum is about. NO BIBLE QUOTES! Sorry but we don't allow spam on this site. Quoting over and over from some ancient text, is SPAM! You want to advertise a book, take out a banner ad! Anyone not following these rules will be banned. So what is allowed? This forum is for discussing the religion of Christianity, and its impact upon the world in the last 2,000 years, positive and negative. You can discuss other elements of the faith, IN YOUR OWN WORDS. We don't need quotes. These forums are for FREE SPEECH, meaning YOUR words, not parroting the words of others. Christianity has a long and horror filled history of repression of free speech, banning of books and intellectual and scientific thought, burning of witches, and intolerance of non-Christian ways. Thus we cannot let this forum be hijacked by Christian missionaries whose goals are diametrically opposed to the goals of this website - primarily opening people's minds to NEW IDEAS and concepts. Don't like these restrictions - Go somewhere else to peddle your wares! It's a big Internet, and we don't allow those who support intolerance and the suppression of Free Speech in any way shape or form! Got it?