They've finally discovered it. It's called the spindle cell and is about 0.1 mm long. There are only about 100,000 of them in our brains and they are found in the ACC, and the FI (whatever that means). Both of those parts of the brain deals with emotions including love and empathy (also the breathing and heartrate which may be interesting for those of you who browse the yoga and medtation forum). It a 5th layer system, so that means it is important in dealing with our responses to things. Blessings Sebbi
Sebbi So our reason has revealed what rational method has allowed. Love compassion and empathy. How so? Do love compassion and empathy exist as real things? like mass and energy? No They are human concepts. We define them If they exist they exist as states of human mind. Interpretations of human understanding. those dna based modifiers that you mention allow nothing but the interpretation of information as feeling. Things occur and we respond. How we respond is the core of this forum. Occam
The sceince is interesting , the interpretation is spurious. I fthese feeling distinhuish 'humanity', many species are human and some homo sapiens are not.
Glory Yes... Much non-human life seems more human than many humans. Few friends are greater friends than a dog a ferret. Few humans seem as serene and wise as whales. As sleek and playfull and sexy as dolphins. As proud and majestic as eagles. As wise and proud as the bear As quick as the cockroach We humans are idiots. We have the greatest of all skills Understanding And we spend our lives trying to one-up eachother the animals are living and we are worrying about taxes... We are fucking morons Occam
Interesting...but seeing as there is less than 5% difference between us and a mouse genetically, and less than 2% between us and a chimp- these cells could also be present in other animals
Pobble And occam thinks that if such spindle cells are the core of emotion/feeling.. Then MANY other species have them. Humans are arrogant. Many would punch occam out if he told them he thought a whale or primate was more of a rational being than them. Occam PS..certain primate species raised as humans have greater conceptual/reasoning and emotive ability than many humans .. [and vocabulary] That means we are NOT the only intelligent species on this planet [by far] We are simply the most invasive/overpowering. Reason allows this.. And reason must understand and ballance this.
Aren't spindle cells fibers found in our muscles that allow us to have proprioception?(knowing where our limbs are without seeing them) Oh yes, and to the whole world:
The prospect of the cells is frightening. It that is the empathy center in the body, horrible things could be done if our DNA was modified to exempt production of Spindle Cells.. Think about it. An army could be built of soldiers that feel no emotion for other people. They would not fear killing one another. DId that make sense at all? I'm high as fuck and kinda paranoid
charredacacia You dont need biotech to get that result. You can have an army of emotionless soldiers by conditioning. A method eons old. Parents do it all the time. As do governments. And religion. The next generation varies little from the last ,, conditioning. Fundamentalism. Occam
Veinglory It may overestimate YOUR abillity.. Maybe you are not that good at your job. More training required? Talk to the jesuits.. Thay can take a boy of 7 And show you the man.. PS There is world of diffrence between conditioning.. And educating..
I am not talking about what I do -- I wouldn't true and mold a person's personality rather than just help them overcome behavioural problems. But I am up to date with what psychological researchers can do. The Jesuit's over-estimated their abilities too. Not very many Jesuits about these days, are there? Despite 1 out of 3 schools being faith based here in the UK hardly anyone goes to church. Guess people are less plastic then we often assume?
