should growing still be illegal

Discussion in 'Cannabis Activism' started by Hobes, Apr 16, 2007.

  1. young_hippy_4:20

    young_hippy_4:20 Member

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    i think! that those 8 people that voted it should stay against the law should just go fuck themselves. :rockon:
    stick that in your fucking pipe and smoke it.
     
  2. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Unfortunately....everybody is too worried about the prisoners way down in Guantanmo Bay to be worried about the prisoners right here at home !


    :jester: :troll:
     
  3. Whiskers123

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    Its much quicker so people normally are able to regulate how stoned they get much easier. People do, do stupid things, but not in the same sense. People are normally more cautious when there stoned. Where as alcohol does the opposite. Also what do you mean more powerful? Even if I smoked a whole SHIT load of marijuana I am still less intoxicated than if I had 3 beer...

    Yes the its a herb argument is kinda silly cause some herbs can be harmful. However if you compare the health concerns of Marijuana to lets say... Caffeine you will find Marijuana is a much safer substance.
     
  4. Jesk

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    Fuck No.... Its a fuckin plant. Only reason its not legal is the gov can't tax it. Grow it you wont get caught fuck the police. And its a lot better straight from the plant!
     
  5. evansmj90

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    If you made growing legal it would stop money going into the hands of crims and would stop people from goin onto harder drugs when the pot gets low
     
  6. crankyelbow

    crankyelbow Makes Music

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    Its a plant...

    No you don't need a license to grow a plant.

    And no marijuana does NOT need to be taxed to hell. In fact, it should carry the same good ole sales tax that everything else does... there is no reason to do otherwise. There is no reason for the government to get extra money for "allowing" us to buy/sell/grow what we should have been able to buy/sell/grow all along.

    Medicinal marijuana is all good and well, but there is no reason for it to be illegal to possess or grow - PERIOD.
     
  7. crankyelbow

    crankyelbow Makes Music

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    Ehhh, I duno about that one. Relatively speaking its a COMPLETELY different feeling, but I have been stoned to the point where I had trouble walking straight.

    But relatively speaking, by that point I would have already died of alcohol poisening. Something like throwing down 10 shots of 151 in a row.

    Some herbs can, thats the great part of marijuana, its not harmful at all... no more than smoking anything. Made legal, teas and what not would be *much* more common, making it quite literally as safe as drinking plain ole tea.
     
  8. doom876

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    Thanks for being concerned with the hundreds of thousands of people in prison*massive sarcasm*

    If your fun>rights of these people, and you want a hypocritic law that allows buying but not growing, you are a moron and a supporter of big buissiness...most likely big tobbacco, who will probably ends up selling it like ciggerettes.
     
  9. coders333

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    i think that people should be able to grow, without a license for personal use only. if you cant figure out how to grow, or are just plain too lazy to do it, then maybe you shouldn't be smoking.
     
  10. doom876

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    Hippies sure do seem more judgemental then they used to be. A culture famous for it's freedom, love, and non work ethic sure seems a bit damaged when they say that if you're lazy or unknowledgeable, you shouldn't even be smoking pot
    dunno, just seems unhip to me
    anyway, pot is awesome. I have seeds, I'm gonna throw them everywhere when I'm riding my bike. Spreading the luv.
     
  11. Zen_Master3568

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    i agree, i think all drugs should be legal as long as we know what the consiquences are, we have the right to put whatever we want into our bodys
     
  12. BudBill

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    Yeah that would be nice. Meth for the morning pick me up. :)

    Its not what you put into your body its what the effects upon others are. Why should Canada's National Health Care pay to get you off your heroin habit. Or your neighbors have their house broken into because you need your meth? Its always nice seeing a panhandler scraping up change for a nice fat rock or busting in your car for the stereo. Having lived through the influx of crack and seeing neighborhoods destroyed the collateral damage of some drugs would not be worth it.

    Don't get me wrong there are some that can handle it & function well in society but the masses (the asses) cannot.

    Free the herb though!

    -B
     
  13. Finnaz

    Finnaz Champagne Socialist

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    ^The thing is though, legalizing them means they can be monitored, kept so they are only supplied in designated areas. Not allowed to be advertised (all drugs, inc alcohol), warned about (responsibly). That way means that it takes the drugs out of the hands of dangerous criminals, it makes them cheaper so people don't have to steal for them (obviously there would still be a tax on them which would go directly to the Health Service). After all, does anyone break into peoples houses to pay for cigarettes?
     
  14. BudBill

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    Hee actually at the price ciggies are I wouldn't be suprised if they did. I know of a few stores that were robbed only for cartons and cartons of Kools.

    I do understand your point for legalization of everything and in a responsibly self managed world it might work but (IMO) people in general don't police themselves. Which is sad - the cheaper the drugs are the more consumed - take the flood of cheap heroin in Europe. Isn't Norway the "Nod" capital now?

    Besides when referring to dangerous criminals are we referring to dealers or "Govt Dealers"? :D

    Where there is a demand there will be a supply - one way or another.
     
  15. Zoonjoo

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    if it was completely legal then you know big corporations would get their greedy paws on it, but that will be a necessary evil to generate new strains and new smoking methods. if we legalize it and let the free market take over it might actually boost our economy and bring us out of a recession. Plus us stoners will be able to get weed whenever and what ever.
    that is heaven.
     
  16. wordman

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    Of course cannabis should be legal. to grow, to own, to smoke, to change your oil if you can make it happen. the problem is that big brother likes pot laws just the way they are, thank you very much.
    they bombard our children daily in our "public" schools with fear based propaganda putting cannabis in the same class as meth, heroin and other deadly substances. all the while making $$ hand over fist on the "drug war". The drug laws are what they are not because of some social good but because the man wants it that way. I think it will take a massive awakening before the government will ever let go of that kind of control.
    I also do not believe that cannabis can be compared to alcohol or any other drug. I don't have any sources on hand, i can only speak from my experiences. but i can say that niether i nor any one i know of has ever broken into somebody's house or bussiness to steal money for their pot fix for the day. i can't say the same for the nasty shit i used to use. Likewise i have never crashed a car, cheated on my wife, offended or hurt a friend with my words/actions because of pot. but i have done all those things on alcohol. cannabis is not just an "herb" it is a sacrament, a medicine.
    It just doesn't fit into the same mold as "drugs" and to try to make it do so is to misunderstand and misuse it.
    anyway, those are my feelings on the subject.

    much love & peace
     
  17. hippie4442000

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    Can I redo my vote, I though it said "legal" hit yes then realized it said "illegal"... boy was that a bummer...

    I think you should be able to grow your own just for personal use, and you should have a lisence if your an industrial producer, but NEVER, NEVER, EVER tax the wonderful herb that god gave us, They shouldnt TAX anything for that matter, TAXATION = THEFT especially income and property taxes. if there gonna tax something it should be 9 BILLION % terrifs on all the imports from china and any other commie countries. maybe it will encurage more manufacturing jobs in our country to support our own economy, not people that just want to kill us.
    Pot should be legalized because it is a gr8 smoke and it has may medical uses, and even more verry good uses in manufacturing, rope, clothes, fuel, plastics, I could go on and on about the industrial qualities of hemp forever, I dont think god gave us such a useful plant for it to be ILLEGAL. it really is the answer to a lot of our biggest problems economically and environmentally. whats it gonna take for us to WAKE UP these bastards in government that took most of our rites away, spy on us, sold our economy down the river, and are even working to end our sovernty as a nation with NAFTA and the NAU.

    Besides, some1 answer this, Where in the constitution does it say the government can regulate a fucking plant???? I have read it many times and havent seen anything of the sort. The war on drugs is ILLEGAL because its UNCONSTITUTIONAL... chew on that for a while.

    And here is some good news reguarding getting it legalized:

    Doctors Demolish Myths on Medical Merijuana

    http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/...ID=/20080223/OPINION02/802230315/1085/opinion

    America's leading medical societies has come down forcefully on the side of compassion and common sense, in supporting medical marijuana for seriously ill people. These doctors have demolished the myths being floated by opponents of medical marijuana.

    Man.. Thats music to my ears... one step closer to FREEDOM!!

    verry good article, they even covered it on The Power Hour, a radio program thats all about the TRUTH and is brodcast all over the world on shortwave and online.

    BTW that is a christian radio show, and they were ALL FOR IT!!! sooo refreshing, I think it might just be legalized sooner than you think.

    thats all for today..

    Peace!
     
  18. wordman

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    couldn't agree more. Pot is illegal because that's how it gives power, money and control to the government.


    i say legalize it and get the government out of it completely. why should it be taxed/regulated by a corupt government? what should the man have to say about what i grow my garden? that's my bussines not theirs.

    regulation is just another word for control.

    much love and peace
     
  19. wordman

    wordman Member

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    From your mouth to Gods ears brother.
     
  20. Finnaz

    Finnaz Champagne Socialist

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    Yeah, looks like there's a general consensus based move towards the Amsterdam system in the media at the moment.
     

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