Lauren Southern Banned from UK

Discussion in 'Politics' started by machinist, Mar 14, 2018.

  1. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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  2. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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  3. Okiefreak

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    But you persistently post attacks on Muslims as though they are all radical jihadists, without qualification or nuance.

    Lol.Coming from the pot, this attack on the kettle's blackness seems hypocritical. Your previous posts bear witness to your failure to distinguish between "The Left" and moderate liberals.

    Southern is a known political Islamaphobic rabble rouser. The U.K. knows an outside agitator when it sees one.

    U.S. Courts distinguish between speech and incitement. Maybe the U.K. is drawing a similar line. Anyhow, she has no right to enter the U.K.

    Keeping religion out of government is one thing, blanket attacks on groups of religious believers is another. By posting inflammatory propaganda against Muslims, Southern and you seem to be willing to risk leading others to take action against them.
    Darren Osborne, U.K. mosque attack suspect, read InfoWars prior to London rampage: Prosecutors
    Hate Crimes Rise Along With Donald Trump’s Anti-Muslim Rhetoric
    Attacks On Mosques And Harassment Of Muslims Skyrocketing In America[/quote][/QUOTE]
     
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  4. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    and yet we give Shia law a platform

    Viva Britain

    I wish the far left, the far right, Islamic extremists, crack pot Christians

    All of those with an extreme political agenda

    I wish they’d all just fuck off

    Leave all the rest of us to go about our humdrum lives in peace
     
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  5. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    For fuck sake 6 LOL you know this stuff has all been covered before

    From you saying all then when pulled up on it saying you didn’t mean all only to then say all again – everyone know that is your MO its basically defines what you are.

    On to the Hitler thing AGAIN covered a thousand times why do you right wingers keep repeating crap that didn’t stand up to scrutiny the first time? Why are you being so dishonest?

    And then on to the ‘Oppression Olympics’ alt-right shit you’ve pumped out repetitively only to have it fall flat on its face. Address the fucking outstanding criticism rather that repeat the same old crap.

    And as shown Lauren isn’t a journalist, she’s an ill informed and self-serving troll.
     
  6. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    No, I forget. Remind me. I'm pretty sure the Nazis were socialists. It is part of the acronym, Nationalsozialist.
    I do understand your frustrations though-- you don't want to believe they were socialists, because they didn't practice YOUR version of socialism.

    Lets try socialism one more time guys! We'll get it right this time!
     
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  7. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    If a foreigner has no right to take part in any activism inside another country. Then you'd also agree that we shouldn't let that **** Linda Sarsour step foot in the United States to advocate for Sharia Law like she does. I hate her guts, but whenever she's inside the United States, she still has a constitutional right for free speech, and freedom of the press.

    I personally don't think its reasonable or right to bar someone from entering the country because of wrong-think or hate speech. But if you agree with barring and silencing Lauren Southern or anyone with an ugly opinion, then you are more "alt-right" than I am, LOL.
     
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  8. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    LOL and of course you know this has all been covered and addressed before and even with you – but as said you are not interested in been honest, I’ll ask again in what way do you thinking being dishonest strengthens your position?

    OK so here is something I posted here 13 years ago to a similar post to yours and I’ve been explain things to people like you and LOL even you, ever since –

    In the early part of the 20th century socialist ideas were popular in Europe amongst those who were disillusioned with the mainstream political parties and even the system of governments of the time, which they saw as corrupt and upholding the power of vested interests. But while there were many legitimate socialist organisations there were others who were just using the guise of socialism to attract the disaffected for their own purposes. National Socialists may have used some of the words and ideas of regular socialism but to me Hitler’s goals had more to do with seizing power than socialist reform.

    As I’ve said before the Nazis have a lot in common with some shades of right wing libertarianism and in today’s US especially those that lean toward the alt-right. Oh I’m not saying they are exactly the same especially the economic ideas are very different but both have base a lot of their social thinking in Social Darwinist type ideas.

    In the US of the 21st century libertarianism seems to me to be attractive to many Americans who are disillusioned with the mainstream political parties and even the system of government, which they see as corrupt and upholding the power of vested interests.

    So while there may be legitimate libertarians I feel that there are those that might just be using the guise of libertarianism to attract the disaffected for their own purposes.

    Now this is just an impression, an opinion or a theory, and I’m not accusing all libertarians (although it is a philosophy I personally dislike) of only faking their beliefs, most are genuine (if misguided in my view). But sometimes talking to others I get the impression that just like many of the Nazis they are less interested in genuine political thought and debate and more interested in trying to misdirect and scapegoating others.


    The Nazis had conspiracies of Jews while many right wingers seem to see conspiracies of liberals and lefties everywhere.
     
  9. Balbus

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    All covered before the silly Linda Sarsour thing, covered, the freedom of speech thing, covered, all of everything you’ve ever posted has been covered

    Rather than just repeat stuff you now didn’t stand up well the first time why not address outstanding criticisms of your views?
     
  10. Asmodean

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    You always leave a topic alone after your remarks on socialism have been set straight, then some time later you repeat the same kind of remark in another thread and act like its a new statement. Its quite pointless and repetitive.
     
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  11. Okiefreak

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    I always thought Linda Sarsour was an American citizen, born and raised in Brooklyn, as I recall. Am I wrong about that? If not, the analogy to Lauren Southern trying to enter Britain to stir shit fails, unless Lauren holds dual Canadian and British citizenship. How has Linda Sarsour advocated for Sharia? Has she advocated adopting it for non- Muslims in the United States, or imposing it on them? Sharia governs the daily conduct of Muslims--e.g., not eating pork or drinking alcohol, and is used in legal arrangements such as wills and estates, within the context of U.S. law. How controversial is that?
     
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  12. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    If you don't agree with wrong thought then you would not want to limit Muslims from entering the country. Sharia laws is the same thing as hate speech to the alt-right. It is a dangerous way of thinking that causes violence.

    She is hoisted by her own petard. I support the German model of "free speech". There are certain things such as Nazism that are not tolerated. Most alt-right thinking as far freedom for Nazis and censoring religion would fall into the same category. It's not constructive or intelligent and the people who use hide behind freedom of speech when they would never offer it in return. They want to be free to say Islam is evil but not free enough to allow Islam.

    England has also has strict laws on this. Which is why she can not come and why it's possible to do prison time for teaching your dog a Nazi salute.

    Even now we have a precedent who has openly spoken about news that contradicts him as news that should not exist. The differance between Hitler saying this and Trump is Trump has more laws to follow.
     
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  14. Balbus

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    OK i repeat

    Bob your wife’s ex-boyfriend doesn’t think it a provocative question to ask why your wife is such a ‘dumb, ugly, cock-sucking whore bitch’ as he has been telling everyone around town because in his view that is a completely rational thing to say as he thinks it totally true.

    Oh and your wife who is a peaceful loving woman most of the time thinks Bob is a shriveled dick who she wishes would die a horrible death, because he is so hateful toward her.

    Bob is now on your doorstep, you know if you let him in Bob is going to be ‘provocative’ and do everything he can to get into a shouting match with your wife, you know it might even end up in a physical fight and you know that besides the possible property damage someone could get injured, hell you might even be hurt.

    So do you let him in?

    To me there is a difference between wanting honest debate and just trying to start a fight.
     
  15. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    LOL Balbus, the "Islam is my wife" argument again?

    If your analogy didn't work the first time you said it, why the hell would it work again by repeating it word for word?

    Maybe you should take a page from your own book when you say things like:

    Also: The top is not permissible, but somehow the bottom is:

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    If you're going to compare an outdated right-wing religion with that you don't practice or believe in, to your wife you love. Then you're probably not going to take any kind of criticism of her from a stranger very well at all. It's a shit comparison anyway.

    To hell with organized religion in general
    To hell with your "wife"
    To hell Islam.
     
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    But it did work I invite anyone to go and look - you basically 'fuck Islam and all Muslims' as you did last time then I come back with something similar to last time – oh yes in your warped thinking all Islam is radical Islam and all Muslims are supporters if not members of ISIS.

    And you’ll back off again with something like - No, I don't believe all 2 billion Muslims worldwide are wahhabists. That's ludicrous. – saying you don’t mean all Muslims are bad mad motherfuckers.

    And that s about all you write, poor little alt-boy.

    So what is your ‘fuck Islam’ solution, kill them all, deport them all? What?

    What if the people being attacked were Jewish, would you think kill them all, deport them all? What?

    PS - Are you married? Does she know you'd let a Bob like character in to abuse her and stand by and do nothing to stop it? That your view is to hell with her?
     
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  17. Okiefreak

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    I know lots of practitioners of that religion. Fine people. I think the point was that there's no reason why the U.K. has to let a professional rabble rouser like Lauren in to stir shit. Christianity is an older religion and Judaism, Buddhism and Hinduism older still. Oldies but goodies. All have their limitations, but many practitioners can hold their own compared with the likes of sickos like Lauren and Milo.
     
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  18. 6-eyed shaman

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    I'm actually glad the UK barred Lauren (and Brittany) from entering.

    It actually turned into a publicity stunt that greatly boosted her publicity and fame. Much like how Twitter banning Milo greatly accelerated his career.

    Thanks to leftwing fascist censorship, Lauren and Milo are branching out and influencing MORE people than they ever were before. :sunglasses:


    Keep it up leftists. You're making your enemies famous :p
     
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    LOL!
    Milking this shitty analogy for a 3rd time Balbus? :tearsofjoy:

    For one, the UK is a country and home to millions of people. It is not your house. Unless you're the type of guy who leaves his front door wide open and unlocked for anybody in the UK, citizens and tourists, to walk in and invade your personal space.

    Secondly, you have to really love Islam to call it your wife. What do you love about it so much? I'm dying to know :D


    Every noble principle the Left claims to uphold, from gay rights to women's liberation and diversity, dies on your sycophantic defense of Islam

    No, and I've explained this before. I don't hate muslims. Just like any other organized religion I just don't like the stuff they believe. And as an atheist/agnostic, I have great distatain for all organized religion. Christianity, Judiasm, Islam included. If a person's only motivation to be a good and decent human being in this life is to risk not being reincarnated as a parasitic tapeworm, or burning for all eternity, that really tells you a lot about that person's character, doesn't it?

    But the thing about Islam, is that it is much more prescriptive and politically driven than other religions. I can count the number of Jewish and Christian authoritarian countries on one hand. It would take more than 3 hands to count all the islamic regimes in the world.

    What the heck is an alternate boy?

    Whoa easy there big boy. I said "to hell with Islam" not fuck Islam.

    People are entitled to believe what they want. Just as long as they don't push it on the rest of us through force and aggression. What makes you think my distain for Islam suggests that I want to "Deport" and "Kill" them all?

    Your post history makes it abundantly clear you dislike conservatives and libertarians. Do you want me dead, Balbus?

    The left used to be very good at enforcing keeping religion and politics seperate from each other. It was one of their best redeeming qualities against the right wing. And it was admirable. Now, we're seeing them bring Islam closer into the political sphere as a protected class through identity politics. They're becoming more and more like the right wing of yesteryear.


    We need to make the left great again.



    No, but I was close to proposing once. It ended badly.

    Come to think of it, I'd love to marry Lauren Southern. She's got the brains, the beauty, and the body. Also, she got her gender status legally changed to Male in Canada.

    WATCH: Lauren Southern Legally Becomes a Man. In One Hour...

    So that would make me legally gay in Canada. We can get gay married and ask a Muslim bakery to make our cake. When they say NO, then we'll sue for homophobic discrimination. And the liberals will have no choice but to back a marginalized gay couple over a bunch of religious zealots.

    :sunglasses:
     
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