Free Will Has Limits

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  1. thefutureawaits

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    And those limits are set by God. To Illustrate imagine a road that has no signs or stop lights or speed limits. Would you feel safe driving on that road?
     
  2. Wu Li Heron

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    There are no limits, only closed minds that refuse to acknowledge that the greater context of the truth determines any of its contents.
     
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  3. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Depends on the the road, the vehicle I'm in, environmental conditions, velocity I'm traveling at, others on the road with me, others in the car with me, my motives for driving at that particular time, my mental and physical condition, etc.

    I've driven on lots of roads without signs or posted speed limits and in the right conditions felt perfectly safe.
     
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  4. themnax

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    i would if there were no such thing as cars.
     
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    the op is partially right, in as much as there ARE reasonable limits to behavior.
    but these are defined not by gods or beliefs,
    but by logic, honesty, and above all, consideration.
    universal consideration for all awareness's and even all things.
    not because some belief says its the right thing to do,
    but because, and the example cited isn't for this a bad one,
    it is how we create the kind of world we experience.
     
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  6. thefutureawaits

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    Our Free Will is limited by God because he knows what's best for us so he gives us free will but he also gives us a conscience to help us make decisions
     
  7. themnax

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    no. they're set by statistics, and those are a moving target.

    and the road? hell yes, if i was the only car on it, and if i wasn't, feeling safe, no matter how many signs there are to protect you, is being an idiot.
     
  8. thefutureawaits

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    The point is humans need guidelines because they scar that are conscience or they ignore their conscience and go out of those limits
     
  9. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    Sounds legit.....
     
  10. thefutureawaits

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    Hello fellow Christian
     
  11. It has no limits for you are now Dream Walkers and I am the Stooge.
     
  12. Noserider

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    So basically a freeway without a set speed limit?

    I think they have those in Montana or somewhere, don't they? And--if memory serves--they have higher safety records than those with set speed limits.
     
  13. Irminsul

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    Oh, that's just the autobahn. ;)
     
  14. Noserider

    Noserider Goofy-Footed Member

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    Oh yeah, forgot about that too.

    Is it safe?
     
  15. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    I have never had a problem but I've passed a lot of accidents, sometimes 10+ cars =\
     
  16. Noserider

    Noserider Goofy-Footed Member

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    Damn. Maybe OP is right?
     
  17. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    I'd have to read it. :D
     
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  18. Noserider

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    Lemons
     
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  19. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    free will is the ability to consider a situation and act in a manner other than what our instincts dictate.
    goes along with the "fall of man" and how that correlate with the evolution of the human brain, specifically the frontal cortex.
     
  20. Irminsul

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmFC7XRwreY
     

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