Ex FBI/CIA Agents Ready To Blow the cover on Bush 9/11 Story...

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  1. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    Some VERY reliable sources are getting ready to blow the cover on the Bush 9-11 cover story...
    By Karl W. B. Schwarz
    Online Journal Contributing Writer
    11-21-4
    The following is an open letter to Eliot Spitzer, Attorney General for the State of New York and William Casey, Chief Investigator for the Attorney General?s Office. In fact, this was hand delivered to Mr. Spitzer's office before it was published as was a three-part expose I have written titled Pop Goes the Bush Mythology Bubble. That three-part article will break soon and is in the hands of investigators at this time.
    Sibel D. Edmonds was one of the many multilingual translators hired by our FBI to help track down terrorists and anticipate their next moves. At least, that was the plan and the purported "job description."
    Once Sibel was working inside the FBI she uncovered something, tried to go public with it when Attorney General John Ashcroft and her FBI superiors would not, and the Bush-Cheney-Ashcroft team slapped a gag order on her so you could not hear what this lady has to say. What she has to say directly relates to 9-11 and it totally disputes the Bush Mythology they want Americans to believe.
    So listen up, America. Here is what Sibel uncovered - she found "drug trafficking, money laundering, foreign names and American names directly involved in the financing of the 9-11 attacks on WTC (World Trade Center) and the Pentagon." It was not the Saudis, folks. Americans were involved and Bush does not want you to know that. That exposes the Bush Mythology as the lie that it is.
    Some of the names on our list are also on the list that Sibel Edmonds knows and found inside the FBI. We came at the problem through telecom fraud, international securities fraud and kept finding trails that led to the Caspian Basin, Pakistan, and former BCCI (Bank of Credit and Commerce) scam artists. Some of you might remember BCCI and that many called it Bank of Crooks and Criminals International and did so for good cause.
    There was something else "odd" about what Sibel Edmonds found. The facts did not surface out of counter-terrorism (Richard Clarke's group); they surfaced out of ongoing investigations by the FBI, some of which date back to 1998.
    The following was sent to me and is appearing here with Sibel's permission. As an American citizen, you need to read it carefully, think, and understand that for the past 38 months you have been lied to by the Bush administration, the world has been lied to by the Bush administration, and that 9-11 happened for a reason that will soon be made known.
    You also need to understand that the last thing the 9-11 Commission was looking for was The Truth. Eight of the ten 9-11 Commissioners have so many conflicts of interests, are directly or indirectly benefiting from Bush defense, homeland security and energy policies, they should have never been named to the 9-11 Commission. Their specialties on the 9-11 Commission were not the truth; they were "omission by intent" and "whitewashing."
    You also need to come to grips with the fact that it is both sides of the aisle in Washington that are perpetuating this myth that they want all Americans and the rest of the world to believe. My next article will expose the conflicts of the eight 9-11 commissioners that should have barred them from even being considered for the job, much less accepting the appointments to be involved in a cover-up.
    Here is the letter that Sibel D. Edmonds and 24 other former federal employees signed and are prepared to tell all to a grand jury. I have over 200 former federal employees, with some overlap on the signatories below, also willing to tell all to a grand jury.
    Date: September 13, 2004
    To The Congress of The United States:
    The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks upon the United States ended its report stating that "We look forward to a national debate on the merits of what we have recommended, and we will participate vigorously in that debate." In this spirit, we the undersigned wish to bring to the attention of the Congress and the people of the United States what we believe are serious shortcomings in the report and its recommendations. We thus call upon Congress to refrain from narrow political considerations and to apply brakes to the race to implement the commission recommendations. It is not too late for Congress to break with the practice of limiting testimony to that from politicians and top-layer career bureaucrats-many with personal reputations to defend and institutional equities to protect. Instead, use this unique opportunity to introduce salutary reform, an opportunity that must not be squandered by politically driven haste.
    Omission is one of the major flaws in the Commission's report. We are aware of significant issues and cases that were duly reported to the Commission by those of us with direct knowledge, but somehow escaped attention. Serious problems and shortcomings within government agencies likewise were reported to the Commission but were not included in the report. The report simply does not get at key problems within the intelligence, aviation security, and law enforcement communities. The omission of such serious and applicable issues and information by itself renders the report flawed, and casts doubt on the validity of many of its recommendations.
    We believe that one of the primary purposes of the Commission was to establish accountability; that to do so is essential to understanding the failures that led to 9/11, and to prescribe needed changes. However, the Commission in its report holds no one accountable, stating instead "our aim has not been to assign individual blame." That is to play the political game, and it shows that the goal of achieving unanimity overrode one of the primary purposes of this Commission's establishment. When calling for accountability, we are referring not to quasi-innocent mistakes caused by "lack of imagination" or brought about by ordinary "human error." Rather, we refer to intentional actions or inaction by individuals responsible for our national security, actions or inaction dictated by motives other than the security of the people of the United States. The report deliberately ignores officials and civil servants who were, and still are, clearly negligent and/or derelict in their duties to the nation. If these individuals are protected rather than held accountable, the mindset that enabled 9/11 will persist, no matter how many layers of bureaucracy are added, and no matter how much money is poured into the agencies. Character counts. Personal integrity, courage, and professionalism make the difference. Only a commission bent on holding no one responsible and reaching unanimity could have missed that.
    We understand, as do most Americans, that one of our greatest strengths in defending against terrorism is the dedication and resourcefulness of those individuals who work on the frontlines. Even before the Commission began its work, many honest and patriotic individuals from various agencies came forward with information and warnings regarding terrorism-related issues and serious problems within our intelligence and aviation security agencies. If it were not for these individuals, much of what we know today of significant issues and facts surrounding 9/11 would have remained in the dark. These "whistleblowers" were able to put the safety of the American people above their own careers and jobs, even though they had reason to suspect that the deck was stacked against them. Sadly, it was. Retaliation took many forms: some were ostracized; others were put under formal or informal gag orders; some were fired. The commission has neither acknowledged their contribution nor faced up to the urgent need to protect such patriots against retaliation by the many bureaucrats who tend to give absolute priority to saving face and protecting their own careers.
    The Commission did emphasize that barriers to the flow of information were a primary cause for wasting opportunities to prevent the tragedy. But it skipped a basic truth. Secrecy enforced by repression threatens national security as much as bureaucratic turf fights. It sustains vulnerability to terrorism caused by government breakdowns. Reforms will be paper tigers without a safe channel for whistleblowers to keep them honest in practice. It is unrealistic to expect that government workers will defend the public, if they can't defend themselves. Courage is the exception, not the rule. Unfortunately, current whistleblower rights are a cruel trap and magnet for cynicism. The Whistleblower Protection Act has turned into an efficient way to finish whistleblowers off by endorsing termination. No government workers have access to jury trials like Congress enacted for corporate workers after the Enron/MCI debacles. Government workers need genuine, enforceable rights just as much to protect America's families, as corporate workers do to protect America's investments. It will take congressional leadership to fill this hole in the 9/11 Commission's recommendations.
    The Commission, with its incomplete report of "facts and circumstances," intentional avoidance of assigning accountability, and disregard for the knowledge, expertise and experience of those who actually do the job, has now set about pressuring our Congress and our nation to hastily implement all its recommendations. While we do not intend to imply that all recommendations of this report are flawed, we assert that the Commission's list of recommendations does not include many urgently needed fixes, and further, we argue that some of their recommendations, such as the creation of an "intelligence czar," and haphazard increases in intelligence budgets, will lead to increases in the complexity and confusion of an already complex and highly bureaucratic system.
    Congress has been hearing not only from the commissioners but from a bevy of other career politicians, very few of whom have worked in the intelligence community, and from top-layer bureaucrats, many with vested interests in saving face and avoiding accountability. Congress has not included the voices of the people working within the intelligence and broader national security communities who deal with the real issues and problems day-after-day and who possess the needed expertise and experience-in short, those who not only do the job but are conscientious enough to stick their necks out in pointing to the impediments they experience in trying to do it effectively.
    We the undersigned, who have worked within various government agencies (FBI, CIA, FAA, DIA, Customs) responsible for national security and public safety, call upon you in Congress to include the voices of those with first-hand knowledge and expertise in the important issues at hand. We stand ready to do our part
     
  2. God

    God Member

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    Well, I doubt this will ever hit the light of day for the mass public. If that happened, god knows what would happen.
     
  3. dhs

    dhs Senior Member

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    Bush could come right out and say it and half the people in this country still wouldn't believe it. Think about it - it has been proven in every possible way that there were no WMD in Iraq, yet 70% of registered Republicans still believe their were. The naive world we live in.
     
  4. element7

    element7 Random fool

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    Put it to a country tune and tone down the language to two syllable words.
     
  5. dhs

    dhs Senior Member

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    perhaps the funniest post of the night
     
  6. dangermoose

    dangermoose Is a daddy

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    two sylables? don;t you think thats going a little over board.
    hmmm, i wonder what a half syllable would sound like....*ponders*
     
  7. God

    God Member

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    haha two syllables. and yes, that Tigerlily person is quite stunning.
     
  8. homebudz

    homebudz Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    No,not naive,stupid,blind,ignorant,but not naive.
     
  9. lildeadheadash

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    Really I loved how he cracked jokes about how there were no weapons of mass destruction, and people still believe we are over there trying to find them....
     
  10. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    This is basically the same thing i've been saying all along...

    Conspiracy theories do happen... I remember a bombing in germany that was supposidly perpotrated by a "communist" at the same time during the berlin wall fiasco... later it was discovered that this man who killed so many people was hired by the government to spread the myth that the communists were out there to kill innocent people and etc... of course the TRUTH of this matter wasnt found out till years after it had been completed and years after the objective was already accomplished... that being conforming people to ignorance and lying to their face.

    The corruption seeded inside of the vietnam war wasnt really found until years after it had happened... although many people already suspected of something being up, the majority of american people hid behind a wall of ignorance.

    When men use their power to exploit and hurt others, they usually do a good job making the truth unknown until they are out of office... but there are some things you can't hide forever... and I believe that the truth behind 9/11... who ACTUALLY did it, why it was done, and why we went to war with iraq and afghanistan will be known in the future... it just takes time and investigation... I believe there are many people out there who already suspect the real truth behind 9/11... but to have it publically known is a completely different story
     
  11. element7

    element7 Random fool

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    The method of delivery of information has changed considerably even in the past two years. Where once was a paper trail now lies a series of hops. Maybe I'm crazy but I had a gut instinct all along that the two dipshits were in bed together to begin with. Sitting there on Wednesday morning and seeing the blurp "Kerry concedes" was all it took. I have no doubt now. Even crazier was the whole Dean phenomonae with the 'internet revolution'. At it's start it was something to behold. Down the road far too much attention was called to it. I mean that in the way that the mass media picked up on it. I believe it was just another tool to provoke a huge flooding of misinformation. The common tactic has been to muddy the waters so much that the truth gets lost except to those persistent enough to keep at it. Further to put forth the idea that anyone with the truth is crazy. Don't listen to them, go buy your happy meal, go work, come home and watch t.v. In the long run not all is revealed. Look at our US history classes in High School. How much time was really spent on Hiroshima/Nagasaki? A giant, catacalysmic event in history and basically all we got was that the Japs bombed us by surprise so we showed them. I know it covered one day while we spent a great deal of time on George Washington and the apple tree without ever mentioning his hemp plantation. Perhaps I speak only from a guy who grew up in the US public school system, but from that perspective, our history was seriously mis-represented. True info/hx has been consistently bent in our country towards a specifiic goal, not as a revelation and a tool for learning.

    I completely agree and believe that at some point it will be 'safe' enough to present the truth in a historical context. But what about right now?

    (btw, off topic, there's a comic series around called "I Saw It" penned by a Japanese Artist who survived the bombing of Nagasaki. I apologize that I can't remember his name. I had the boxed series once but someone stole them.)
     
  12. Brocktoon

    Brocktoon Banned

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    How fantastically stupid to actually believe that Bush and Cheney would deliberately burn, smash and murder thousands of innocent American civilians.

    How absolutely ignorant does someone have to be - to believe that.

    Ya. .you heard me.
     
  13. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    How stupid and brainwashed a person would have to be to believe -- presented with all the evidence -- that they didn't deliberately do it.

    Apparently, you don't know how governments work, and you look upon them as being harmless, as most people do, without question.
     
  14. green_thumb

    green_thumb kill your T.V.

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    I agree completely. History has been warped and then fed back to us in a more pleasing American angle. The same occurs in the present. It's maddening isn't it?

    Brocktoon-it's quite obvious you've done no investigations into 9/11. I'll never understand how some people can be so complacent and incurious.
     
  15. Brocktoon

    Brocktoon Banned

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    The answer is - Im not (very) stupid or brainwashed because I have read the 'Evidence' [99% of which is NOT evidence but sheer conjecture and suspicion] and its clear they did NOT do that.

    Apparently I DO know how governments work and so far I have seen no evidence that this many evil masterminds could work a plot so sick and evil without tripping up.

    Consider this much alone...

    George Bush Jr has difficulty making it through a debate (which he and dozens of acting coaches worked on for 6 weeks straight).
    Here is a guy who nearly reversed his advantage over Kerry after the first debate because he couldnt listen to Kerry without making peeved faces and not appearing annoyed. [despite being trained NOT to do so]

    But wait... After George Bush slaughters, maims and burns to death THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE .. including CHILDREN....

    Somehow he can pull of the most astonishing and Oscar award winning Acting every seen.

    Gee whiz.. with all the Kerry loving Academy Award winners - not one spotted the 'acting' techniques used by Bush to appear visibly devastated and furious about 9/11.

    Well anyway.. Since virtually EVERYTHING about your theory is completely silly - I will just leave it at that one. It would take too long to point em all out i guess.
     
  16. God

    God Member

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    Ah, Brocktoon's right. Our government loves us, wants nothing more than to protect us, and will stop at nothing to keep us safe!
     
  17. Brocktoon

    Brocktoon Banned

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    Nice Option.

    Try this option:
    Neither Bush or Cheney are perfect human being, but given the circumstances they are going to try and stop Terrorists from murdering more American Civilians - as best they can.
     
  18. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    \Well They really havn't been doing a very good job at acting...It is just that the majority of people are too stupid to figure it out...

    http://images.indymedia.org/imc/washingtondc/media/video/6/9_11laugh.mpg

    Peace and Love,
    Dan
     
  19. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    Brocktoon please explain to me why the WTC fell down completely straight rather than leaning one way or another?
     
  20. Brocktoon

    Brocktoon Banned

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    Lets get something Clear... Whether Brocktoon can explain why the Towers fell down or not DOES NOT validate a claim that Bush organised Mass Murder.

    Having said that - Lets talk about structural engineers, demolition experts and people who have studied this their entire life.

    Now according to your conspiracy theorists - All the Official investigators who studied the WTC Collapse and DO NOT see anything 'Suspicious' are simply being paid off by Bush (or playing along in fear of being murdered)

    Here is the MASSIVE GLARING PROBLEM with this theory:

    There are THOUSANDS of highly trained and extremely experienced structural engineers and experts AROUND THE WORLD.

    Many of them have absolutely NO allegiance to Bush, are from different countries, or would do nothing but benefit from exposing something 'Suspicious'.

    But NOooooooooo.... No, according to the conspiracy types - ALL these Experts are simply keeping their mouths shut.

    Come on!

    What happens is that the conspiracy theory becomes simply impossible to believe because your asking for THOUSANDS of people to be 'in on it'.

    Then your asking that NOT ONE slips up, turns on his conspirators or simply develops a conscience.


    To me - this is a way for stupid people to believe they are 'Smarter' than everyone else.
    Claiming to be able to 'spot something' no one else can.

    Take that video clip... Bush is upset .. or at least 'not impressed' about an accusation.
    Stupid people cant really 'get' how the world of politics and Press Conferences work - so they see some reporter 'laugh' and think "Hey! Why did he Laugh.. Thats Weird!"
     
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