Corporate Drug Testing

probably the same one that supposedly hand-picked bush to be his golden boy in the white house. *shudder*

everybody, check this out:
http://hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91220

 

Very true statement, at the moment I live in an oil state, most jobs here from working on a rig to cleaning toilets in a motel require drug testing. Why you ask? Kickbacks, taxcuts & insurence breaks. Thank-you corporate America

 

Control what the cattle put in their bodies, they can control the cattle

Oh, well...They must have read Brave New World & some of those writings by now, it's been almost a half century.

If they can control the millk cycles of cows so that they never have to lay off & rest by giving them hyper-feed, hormones & heavy doses of antibiotics, then they get the cow to sucessfuly defy nature & overproduce. Then when the cow is so sick she can't stand any more, they grind the milk cow up for cheap beef to sell at the burger stands.

If they can control what the cattle put in their bodies, they can control the cattle.

If they can control what we can't put in our bodies, they will eventually control what we must put in our bodies. Who ends up with all those antibiotics, hormones & fattening-up drugs passed from those cows through the food chain? People. Maybe that's why the Americans are so bloody fat!

It hasn't come to administering mind-altering drugs to us yet, but that can't be far off, since they urine & blood test people for the most menial jobs, it's ridiculous!

Wasn't it Jerry Rubin, one of the original Chicago Seven that wrote that we should all send massive amounts of our urine to Washington? That would really piss them off! Trouble is--it's 10 times stricter in the private sector than for most government jobs. But the military is way over the top. I talked to a fellow who said his kid was refused because they detected advil as illegal drugs. The military is able to use radioactive technology to detect substances in the blood since they have the ability to dispose of it afterwards.

There are top jobs in government (rumored FBI & CIA) that I have heard the THC level is so loose that you could smoke a joint the day before & past their drug test. That sounds like the Bush standard. Hell, he has his own economic bubble he lives inside of & never connects with the crappy economy for actual working folks, why shouldn't the government have especially lenient drug testing.

If they give you a blood test for insurance, they can determine over 200 things about you, such as genetic weaknesses & proness to congenital illnesses. These are all sent to a lab & data bank in St. Louis, Missouri, US-of-A!

How's that for as little PRIVACY as we can possibly have?

By the way Nimue--your avatar is hot!

 

A relative of mine who gets headaches from their smoke allergies so doesn't smoke pot, although their S/O is a big pothead, went to an employment agency a couple of days ago. The agency told them if they found them a job, they had to submit to a drug test. So they said OK~! Then the Employment Agency said they would charge the person $30 to take the test! ...And to add insult to injury--The Agency does the test themselves!

Is that a COLD World or what?

Everything they tack on to your life is a TAX. Whether the Republicans say they cut taxes or not it is quickly recouped by the price the government adds onto imported Oil at the gas pumps, the numerous complex fees on phone service, the additional cost of installing & running the Dynos (acceleration roller) at Vehicle Inspection stations to meet the current Government Clean Air Regulations or Corporations Passing on Pissing costs to people who can't even stand the smell of smoke!

These are all obvious but unspoken Taxes. As a country right now we are a bunch of dumb sheep going to the slaughter house. America was founded upon Tax Rebellion against Tyrannical Government that grew out of touch with who was making the money & who was just taxing them unfairly for goods while spending the revenue on foreign affairs, remote & completely removed from the needs of the colonists. That's what is happening everywhere from the pumps to the pimps, they try to get back some of the money they think people are raking in from rackets like so-called illegal dealing by hitting up the overworked middle class even more. When they figure out it is to their advantage to legalize pot, they will have already developed a plan of taxation just like they do with Rotgut, Gambling lotteries & Cancer sticks. Protecting ordinary citizens my ass. Protecting THEIR Pockets, Yes!

 

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That is a very honest analogy. Karma is the last true form of justice in this life, lets hope it comes back to bite them in the ass!! And real soon, most of the damage that has been done by this regime can not be reversed or fixed.

And thank-you very much sky

 

Nimue, I would probably bite them in the soft posterior for you, if they were female, nice & as hot as your icon--or be more tender if you so desired; but your avatar is much too visually stimulating for me to think of anyone else.

Could you please choose a less aphrodesiac icon for this weak & vulnerable male so I can keep my mind on the issues at hand?

Thanks for the hand,

Yours

 

Ah, but I like my icon it suits me well. A little adversity is good for the soul. I have faith that you will overcome any vulnerabilties and arise to the challenge.

 

Maybe not arise, but thought-provoking. Yes, I agree it suits you, too. Just a little levity on the Iconic Issues...

I've thought about paying just so I could design my own. I wonder what that would be? I think anything would be better than this green guy. I like the smoking hippy in the hat & shades for my posts. He's totally chilling, isn't he...



I wonder if this guy'd pass the drug test?

 

Washington, DC: Members of Congress this week vowed to introduce
legislation to prohibit the use and sale of commercial products intended
to influence drug test results, such as diuretic teas and chemical
adulterants.
"These products ... endanger the public," said Rep. Ed Whitfield (R),
Chair of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, Subcommittee on
Oversight and Investigations, who called this week's hearing. "I can't
think of any reason why we'd allow these products in interstate commerce."
Presently, 14 states have enacted laws prohibiting the sale of such
products. Members of the Committee said they intend to introduce similar
federal legislation before the end of the year.
Of the estimated 55 million drug tests performed annually,
approximately 90 percent of those are urine tests, which may be influenced
by dilution or adding an adulterant to the sample. Over the past decade,
numerous commercial businesses have begun selling various products
promising to influence drug test results, including herbal teas and
substitute urine.
While often referred to as an impairment test, urinalysis cannot
detect the presence of parent drugs, and only indicates that a particular
substance may have been previously consumed at some unspecified point in
time. In the case of cannabis, non-psychoactive marijuana metabolites
(compounds produced from chemical changes of a drug in the body) may be
detectable in urine for days or even weeks after past use. As a result,
the US Department of Justice affirms that a positive urine test, even when
confirmed, "does not indicate ... recency, frequency, or amount of [drug]
use; or impairment."
Responding to the proposed Congressional action, NORML Executive
Director Allen St. Pierre said, "It's ironic that Congress is trying to
quash legitimates businesses that have successfully emerged in the free
market - particularly when the market for this industry is a direct result
of politicians' zeal to intrusively search the bodily fluids of tens of
millions of law abiding Americans without cause

 

The Treasury Department appendix which reviews the history of BATF mentioned the "prohibition-related rise in crime and use of firearms" during the 1920s and 1930s. Much of today's violent crime is also prohibition-related, but now it is related to the prohibition of psychoactive drugs, not alcohol. The twenty-five-year-old "War on Drugs" has suppressed supplies of the popular and relatively safe drug marijuana and ensured that dealers promote dangerous and addictive--but more easily smuggled and transported--drugs like cocaine and heroin. The attraction of hefty illegal profits has led to just the sort of struggles over territory and violence between armed gangs that occurred during alcohol prohibition. (Rising taxes on cigarettes also increases cigarette-bootlegging-related crime!)

Because such a high percentage of criminal arrests and imprisonments are related to non-violent drug crimes, the justice system must give early paroles to violent rapists, thieves and murderers to make room for those given long mandatory sentences for using or distributing small amounts of marijuana or cocaine. There is little doubt that 25 years of drug prohibition has created far more prohibition- related violence than 15 years of alcohol prohibition. Moreover, there is far greater random violence and violence by children than ever experienced under alcohol prohibition. Gang violence is decimating the young black male population since poor, inner-city black males see few opportunities as lucrative as dealing illegal drugs.

Some consider drug prohibition itself to be a form of religious persecution against new religious movements which arose during the 1960s and advocated using psychoactive drugs as a path to spiritual enlightenment. It was a case related to Native Americans' use of peyote which led to the U.S. Supreme Court's Oregon vs. Smith ruling that so undercut religious rights. In response, hundreds of religious groups of every description joined together to pressure Congress to pass the 1993 Religious Restoration Act. However, even this act provides scant protections for those who want to use psychoactive drugs for religious purposes.

The War on Drugs has led to serious abuses of American's constitutional rights and freedoms by law enforcement: use of unreliable informants, inadequate investigations of alleged crimes, increasing use of entrapment, judicial rubber-stamping of search warrants, improper use of deadly force, growing use of unjustified "no knock" warrants, increasing violations of due process of law, improper use of forfeiture proceedings to augment law enforcement budgets, and growing use of the military in domestic law enforcement.

One tragic forfeiture-motivated case is that of Donald Scott, a California millionaire who owned property bordered on three sides by a national park. On October 2, 1992, Los Angeles Sheriffs, National Park and Forest Service representatives, national and California Drug Enforcement agents and the National Guard raided Donald Scott's home, on a tip that marijuana was located on the property. Hearing a commotion, Scott ran to the living room, gun in hand, and was killed as he obeyed demands he drop his weapon. The local District Attorney's office admitted that one reason for the raid was the "desire to seize and forfeit the ranch for the government." [428] Drug prohibition has fostered accelerating gang and police violence.


GUN-PROHIBITION-RELATED VIOLENCE
Alcohol-prohibition-related gun violence led to the first national gun laws. Likewise, drug-prohibition-related gun violence is prompting calls for more and stricter enforcement of these laws. After many years of effort, the Brady Bill handgun registration law was recently passed. Treasury Secretary Lloyd Bentsen has proposed putting 80 per cent of gun dealers out of business by raising the annual licensing fee by 2000%. Many politicians call for banning "assault weapons" and President Clinton has discussed registering all guns.

The "right to bear arms" community is furious. Nationwide its organizing efforts are mushrooming. Unlike outlawing drugs, regulating and restricting gun ownership goes against a powerful American mythology--that only an armed citizenry can protect itself against an oppressive government. (Members of the Committee for Waco Justice believe that during this century non-violent action has proved to be more successful; nevertheless, individuals should not be deprived of their right to defend themselves in extreme situations where they have no other choice.) Many groups nationwide currently are planning demonstrations for April 19th, "Patriots' Day." That it is also the anniversary of the government's destruction of the Branch Davidians in its attempt to enforce gun laws is not lost on gun owners' rights activists.

The tragedy in Waco may be just a foretaste of what will happen as the government tries to restrict the ownership of guns in the United States. While some columnists and politicians said Waco was an example of why we need gun control, the Committee for Waco Justice is one of many groups that insist that it was the enforcement of gun laws that triggered the disaster. We fear that we may someday see a "War on Guns" more terrifying than the current War on Drugs. Gun prohibition will only expand the already huge black market in illegal guns and bring about a rise in gun-prohibition-related crimes and gangs. The same attitudes and practices that have undermined the rights of drug users and dealers are undermining the rights of gun owners and gun dealers. More and more innocent legal gun owners--as well as individuals merely accused of owning illegal guns--may find themselves raided and assaulted by out-of-control law enforcement.

The massacre of the Branch Davidians is an important factor in bringing together those who oppose drug prohibition with those who oppose gun prohibition. On January 10, 1993, the date of the opening of the trial of the eleven Branch Davidians, a coalition consisting of two leading drug legalization groups, four gun owners' rights groups, and four civil liberties groups wrote President Clinton requesting he create a commission to review unlawful policies of all federal law enforcement agencies. [429] We include more details about the coalition in a later section.


ECONOMIC UNREST AND TAX REBELLION
Disorganized economic protest, like the Los Angeles riots, remains a continuing threat. However, government often is less concerned about these crisis than about organized economic protest, especially tax resistance. Today the average individual pays almost 50 per cent of his or her income in local, state, and federal taxes, a percentage which will only continued to rise. Already 18 percent of Americans fail to file tax returns and many more grossly underreport their incomes. Most are people without political ideology. However, many are religious or political ideologues convinced that the government is ripping them off, that the income tax is illegal, or that God has better purposes for their wealth than sending it to "Godless" politicians. Some are libertarians who believe taxation is theft and others are war tax resisters who will not pay for war or for government violence against citizens. A small percentage are "20 somethings" convinced that the social security system will fold before they receive a cent.

Meanwhile, millions of people who do pay taxes have joined local, state and national anti-tax groups which recommend and engage in lobbying to bring taxes down. America's growing federal deficit, ever rising taxes, and economic stagnation are already giving rise to radical anti- tax movements. However, it is unlikely they will be able to effect the kind of change they want through the electoral system because the majority of those who bother to vote are recipients of tax benefits: government employees, social security, medicare and medicaid recipients, pensioners, and employees of government contractors. If national health care is passed even more people will be drawn into the welfare net.


SECESSIONISTS AND SEPARATISTS
In fact, the passage of any compulsory national health care program might be the last straw not only for tax protesters, but for millions of Americans who still abhor what they consider to be socialist solutions. One indication of this is an October, 1993 column by libertarian conservative columnist Walter Williams: "Bill Clinton's efforts to forcibly impose socialized medicine on our nation has answered a question gnawing at me for quite some time. The question is whether we have reached a point where those of us who love liberty, private property rights, rule of law and the Constitution given us by our Founding Fathers should organize to make preparations to secede from the Union. . .The fundamental question totally ignored is whether federalized medicine is authorized by the U.S. Constitution. My thorough reading of our Constitution found no authorization for Mr. Clinton's plan. . .The only peaceful resolution is that of secession. . .After all, the right to part company is the most effective human safety valve, no matter whether it's divorce, quitting a job or secession. If there's a ban on parting company, somebody's likely to be treated like a dog. . .I hope that secession wouldn't be bloody. And it wouldn't be if the nation's socialists adopted the attitude of live and let live. But if they don't, liberty-loving people shouldn't roll over, play dead and take socialists' abuses without imposing high costs in return." [430]

Williams read this column to millions of people when he filled in for vacationing talk show host Rush Limbaugh during the last week of 1993. During the show he explained that the moral justification for secession is found in the Declaration of Independence which contains in its first paragraph the sentence: "Whenever a government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it."

On the December 28, 1993 show, Williams described the Utah-based Committee of 50 states, which is chaired by former governor Jay Bracken Lee. The Committee has proposed "The Ultimate Resolution," a resolution which--if endorsed by 38 state legislatures--would dissolve the entire federal apparatus when the federal debt reaches $6 trillion. The president, Congress and the federal judiciary would be fired. Each of the 50 states would become a separate and sovereign nation, free to come together to form a new confederation. The Ultimate Resolution contains a provision whereby any attempt to suspend or eliminate the U.S. Constitution would automatically cause the states to take back all the powers they have delegated to the federal government. [431] Williams endorsed this resolution.

A number of ideological groups--anarchists, libertarians, greens, bioregionalists, states' rights-ists and African- American, Hispanic-American and white separatists--endorse secession or recommend the break up of the United States into a number of nations or into confederations of communities. Many citizens of Hawaii, Texas, Alaska, and Vermont already have strong secessionist sentiments. Should economic and political turmoil increase in the future, American secessionist movements might grow as well. Should Quebec break away from the rest of Canada, it doubtless will further inspire secessionists in this country.

Demographics also has secessionist implications. Demographers predict that by the year 2050 the population of the United States could be more than 50% African-American, Hispanic, and Asian. In 1992 Columnist Carlos Alberto Montaner wrote: "It would be interesting to predict the United States' reaction if faced with a possible ethnic secession. Would it be necessary, like in Yugoslavia, to send in U.N. troops to keep the peace, or would the country react in a civilized manner like Czechoslovakia? Fortunately, this question won't have to be answered for 50 years. We shall see then."

 

1. Protect Right to Freedom of Religion, Speech, Press, Assembly and to Petition the Government
* Issue a Presidential Executive Order to ensure that only the President or the Attorney General may approve any law enforcement actions against "non-traditional" religious or political groups in order to ensure that there is credible probable cause, that non-coercive avenues of resolving possible violations are explored and that excessive force is not used. (As proposed by Justice report outside experts Lawrence E. Sullivan and Richard J. Davis.)

* Ensure that only the President or the Attorney General may designate a group or category of groups suspected of breaking federal laws as being "violent" and therefore subject to governmental surveillance. Such groups should also have the right to appeal to these highest authorities if they discover such surveillance and want to challenge it.

* End all governmental spying on peaceful political and religious groups, including new religious movements some call "cults." Ensure that acting BATF director John W. Magaw ends his monitoring of "cults."

* End the use of the term "cult" as a category justifying investigative activities, use of force, criminal prosecution, or governmental regulation or liquidation of any group labeled a "cult."

* Release all currently classified files relating to Reverend Jim Jones and the Jonestown incident in Guyana.

* Prevent law enforcement agencies from receiving information from organizations--such as the Anti-Defamation League and the Cult Awareness Network--bent on harming or destroying other groups with which they have political or religious differences.

* Consider Justice Department investigation of the Cult Awareness Network, its representatives and any allied groups for "conspiracy against the rights of citizens" for possible false allegations to law enforcement regarding various religious groups, including the Branch Davidians and The Family.

* Make no laws or regulations restricting the press and media from covering law enforcement actions. Allow them access to allegedly dangerous situations on an "at-your-own- risk" basis. (During the June 9, 1993, House Appropriations Subcommittee meeting, WNBC reporter John Miller said "having an ongoing cooperative mechanized procedure for bring the media on such operations where appropriate. . .lessens the potential of having stragglers." [433])

2. Protect Right to Keep and Bear Arms
* Repeal all laws regulating or banning the ownership, manufacture, transfer, or sale of firearms and munitions, except those prohibiting individuals certified to be mentally unbalanced or felons convicted of violent crimes from owning weapons. However, private homeowners, businesses, and communities should retain the right to ban such weapons from their private property.

* Abolish the Bureau of Tobacco, Firearms and Firearms and turn any of its legitimate functions over to state and local authorities.

* Ensure all agencies enforcing regulations and laws regarding firearms and munitions act in accordance with and be held accountable to provisions of the Firearms Owners' Protection Act.


3. Protect Right to Refuse Quartering of Soldiers
* Repeal all laws which permit government to quarter soldiers in wartime; while the U.S. Constitution allows this--"in a manner to be prescribed by law"--such laws are unnecessary.

* Repeal any existing laws or regulations permitting federal agents to occupy private property for surveillance or other law enforcement activity without the express permission of the innocent property owner.


4. Protect Right to be Secure Against Unreasonable Searches and Seizures, including Necessity for Probable Cause before Issuance of Warrants
* Include in all statutory and administrative regulations "first warning" provisions insuring investigators first warn individuals and corporate entities of possible violations; this insures individuals are not investigated, searched, arrested, tried and punished for violations of arcane, confusing and conflicting regulations.

* Establish a method by which individuals discovering themselves to be under investigation regarding violations of administrative regulations or non-violent crimes may cooperate with such investigations to prevent warranted searches and arrests with the potential for employing excessive force.

* Require federal agents assure the judge or magistrate not only that they have probable cause but: (a) that local and/or state authorities have been consulted about any suspect's past cooperation with law enforcement; (b) that agents justify the use of extraordinary force or unconventional entry methods, and explain why these do not constitute a "no knock" raid; (c) that agents certify that abandonment of any ongoing negotiations in a siege situation are merited; (d) that agents report if any jurisdictions involved in, or informed of, any action against a property subject to forfeiture have attempted to purchase the property in the past.

* Establish disciplinary procedures to prevent judges and magistrates from simply "rubber stamping" search and arrest warrants.

* Educate law enforcement agents regarding individuals' common law and statutory right to self-defense against excessive police force or against searches where the police do not announce who they are or provide the citizen with sufficient identification. Because of the national spate of break-ins by criminals claiming to be police, this right to self-defense might need to be strengthened by appropriate statutes.

* Do not ease restrictions on the use of illegally obtained evidence--the exclusionary rule--as the 1993 Crime Control Act would do.


5. Protect Right to Indictment by Grand Jury, Trial by Jury, Avoid Double Jeopardy, Refuse to Bear Witness against Oneself, Due Process of Law, and Just Compensation for Public Taking of Property
* Require judges to inform jurors of the common law right to judge the law, as well as the facts of the case, and to acquit a criminal defendant, or to find against the government in a civil trial, whenever they consider the law unjust or oppressive.

* Require judges to inform jurors of the common law practice that if the jurors find the government's conduct unacceptable, even if the law is valid, they may acquit the defendant.

* Offer just government financial restitution for all losses suffered by persons who suffer searches and property damage where no crime has been committed or where damages are disproportionately high in relation to the alleged violation.

* Offer just government financial restitution to those arrested, indicted, tried, imprisoned, or otherwise injured in the course of criminal proceedings that do not result in their conviction.

* End the practice of pre-conviction seizures of property in civil and criminal cases.


6. Protect Right to A Speedy Public Trial, Impartial Jury, Knowledge of Accusations, Confront Witnesses, Compel Favorable Witnesses, and Assistance of Counsel
* Permit criminal defendants and civil parties in a court of law a reasonable number of peremptory challenges to proposed judges, similar to the right to challenge proposed jurors.

* Educate all law enforcement agents, including members of "elite" special response teams, to the fact that loyalty to the unit does not excuse the violation of individual or constitutional rights or participation in coverups of same. They frequently must be reminded that they have taken an oath of loyalty to the constitution, not to their unit.

* End the increasingly common practice of charging attorneys as co-conspirators to justify violations of the attorney-client privilege.


7. Protect Right to Trial By Jury In Civil Suits
* Eliminate the doctrine of "Sovereign Immunity" which holds that the State--or its agents--may not be sued without its permission or held accountable for its actions under civil law; replace it with the principle of full liability for damages. Government employees and agents should be held personally legally and financially liable for any violations of citizens rights, including excessive use of force.


8. Protect Freedom From Excessive Bail, Excessive Fines, or Cruel and Unusual Punishment
* Repeal the Racket Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) laws which have been applied too indiscriminately, used to compel excessive fines and jeopardize First Amendment rights of all Americans to organize political demonstrations, and, especially, civil disobedience. Crimes like repeated trespass and destruction of property should be dealt with through existing local and state laws.

* It should not be considered an "excessive fine" for any government employee or agent involved in rights violations, excessive use of force, and other illegal activity to lose not only their jobs, but all law enforcement-related government pensions and benefits.


9. Protect Rights Retained by the People
* Facilitate the people's access to government information by ending secret classifications which prevent the public from obtaining information regarding government policies and actions (exceptions being such matters as private information coerced by government agents and defensive military plans). Government should expedite the processes by which individuals may obtain such information.

* End restrictions on the people's right to use some or all currently restricted psychoactive drugs. (This should also be considered under First Amendment religious rights.)

* Repeal the drug exemption to the posse comitatus law.

* Work for non-violent resolution of conflicts over sovereignty should communities, regions or states assert their right to secede from the United States of America.


10. Protect Powers Reserved to the States or the People
* End the practice of creating local-state-federal "multi-task forces" which override local powers so that local and state authorities cannot protect their citizens from excessive federal power.

* Ensure that the people retain the power to prevent local and state involvement in federal law enforcement actions and to press criminal and civil suits against local and state law enforcement which participates in any federal violations of rights.

* Restrict the Federal Bureau of Investigation to investigating only narrowly defined federal crimes like espionage, kidnapping across state lines, etc.; it should not become a national police force overriding the authority of local and state governments.

* Pass an Independent Counsel law to prosecute crimes in the executive branch of government--including any massive governmental violations of citizens rights, as occurred in Waco, Texas--if the Attorney General refuses to appoint one.

 

1. Protect Right to Freedom of Religion, Speech, Press, Assembly and to Petition the Government



* Issue a Presidential Executive Order to ensure that only the President or the Attorney General may approve any law enforcement actions against "non-traditional" religious or political groups in order to ensure that there is credible probable cause, that non-coercive avenues of resolving possible violations are explored and that excessive force is not used. (As proposed by Justice report outside experts Lawrence E. Sullivan and Richard J. Davis.)

* Ensure that only the President or the Attorney General may designate a group or category of groups suspected of breaking federal laws as being "violent" and therefore subject to governmental surveillance. Such groups should also have the right to appeal to these highest authorities if they discover such surveillance and want to challenge it.

* End all governmental spying on peaceful political and religious groups, including new religious movements some call "cults." Ensure that acting BATF director John W. Magaw ends his monitoring of "cults."

* End the use of the term "cult" as a category justifying investigative activities, use of force, criminal prosecution, or governmental regulation or liquidation of any group labeled a "cult."

* Release all currently classified files relating to Reverend Jim Jones and the Jonestown incident in Guyana.

* Prevent law enforcement agencies from receiving information from organizations--such as the Anti-Defamation League and the Cult Awareness Network--bent on harming or destroying other groups with which they have political or religious differences.

* Consider Justice Department investigation of the Cult Awareness Network, its representatives and any allied groups for "conspiracy against the rights of citizens" for possible false allegations to law enforcement regarding various religious groups, including the Branch Davidians and The Family.

* Make no laws or regulations restricting the press and media from covering law enforcement actions. Allow them access to allegedly dangerous situations on an "at-your-own- risk" basis. (During the June 9, 1993, House Appropriations Subcommittee meeting, WNBC reporter John Miller said "having an ongoing cooperative mechanized procedure for bring the media on such operations where appropriate. . .lessens the potential of having stragglers." [433]) 2. Protect Right to Keep and Bear Arms



* Repeal all laws regulating or banning the ownership, manufacture, transfer, or sale of firearms and munitions, except those prohibiting individuals certified to be mentally unbalanced or felons convicted of violent crimes from owning weapons. However, private homeowners, businesses, and communities should retain the right to ban such weapons from their private property.

* Abolish the Bureau of Tobacco, Firearms and Firearms and turn any of its legitimate functions over to state and local authorities.

* Ensure all agencies enforcing regulations and laws regarding firearms and munitions act in accordance with and be held accountable to provisions of the Firearms Owners' Protection Act.

3. Protect Right to Refuse Quartering of Soldiers



* Repeal all laws which permit government to quarter soldiers in wartime; while the U.S. Constitution allows this--"in a manner to be prescribed by law"--such laws are unnecessary.

* Repeal any existing laws or regulations permitting federal agents to occupy private property for surveillance or other law enforcement activity without the express permission of the innocent property owner.

4. Protect Right to be Secure Against Unreasonable Searches and Seizures, including Necessity for Probable Cause before Issuance of Warrants



* Include in all statutory and administrative regulations "first warning" provisions insuring investigators first warn individuals and corporate entities of possible violations; this insures individuals are not investigated, searched, arrested, tried and punished for violations of arcane, confusing and conflicting regulations.

* Establish a method by which individuals discovering themselves to be under investigation regarding violations of administrative regulations or non-violent crimes may cooperate with such investigations to prevent warranted searches and arrests with the potential for employing excessive force.

* Require federal agents assure the judge or magistrate not only that they have probable cause but: (a) that local and/or state authorities have been consulted about any suspect's past cooperation with law enforcement; (b) that agents justify the use of extraordinary force or unconventional entry methods, and explain why these do not constitute a "no knock" raid; (c) that agents certify that abandonment of any ongoing negotiations in a siege situation are merited; (d) that agents report if any jurisdictions involved in, or informed of, any action against a property subject to forfeiture have attempted to purchase the property in the past.

* Establish disciplinary procedures to prevent judges and magistrates from simply "rubber stamping" search and arrest warrants.

* Educate law enforcement agents regarding individuals' common law and statutory right to self-defense against excessive police force or against searches where the police do not announce who they are or provide the citizen with sufficient identification. Because of the national spate of break-ins by criminals claiming to be police, this right to self-defense might need to be strengthened by appropriate statutes.

* Do not ease restrictions on the use of illegally obtained evidence--the exclusionary rule--as the 1993 Crime Control Act would do.

5. Protect Right to Indictment by Grand Jury, Trial by Jury, Avoid Double Jeopardy, Refuse to Bear Witness against Oneself, Due Process of Law, and Just Compensation for Public Taking of Property



* Require judges to inform jurors of the common law right to judge the law, as well as the facts of the case, and to acquit a criminal defendant, or to find against the government in a civil trial, whenever they consider the law unjust or oppressive.

* Require judges to inform jurors of the common law practice that if the jurors find the government's conduct unacceptable, even if the law is valid, they may acquit the defendant.

* Offer just government financial restitution for all losses suffered by persons who suffer searches and property damage where no crime has been committed or where damages are disproportionately high in relation to the alleged violation.

* Offer just government financial restitution to those arrested, indicted, tried, imprisoned, or otherwise injured in the course of criminal proceedings that do not result in their conviction.

* End the practice of pre-conviction seizures of property in civil and criminal cases.

6. Protect Right to A Speedy Public Trial, Impartial Jury, Knowledge of Accusations, Confront Witnesses, Compel Favorable Witnesses, and Assistance of Counsel



* Permit criminal defendants and civil parties in a court of law a reasonable number of peremptory challenges to proposed judges, similar to the right to challenge proposed jurors.

* Educate all law enforcement agents, including members of "elite" special response teams, to the fact that loyalty to the unit does not excuse the violation of individual or constitutional rights or participation in coverups of same. They frequently must be reminded that they have taken an oath of loyalty to the constitution, not to their unit.

* End the increasingly common practice of charging attorneys as co-conspirators to justify violations of the attorney-client privilege.

7. Protect Right to Trial By Jury In Civil Suits



* Eliminate the doctrine of "Sovereign Immunity" which holds that the State--or its agents--may not be sued without its permission or held accountable for its actions under civil law; replace it with the principle of full liability for damages. Government employees and agents should be held personally legally and financially liable for any violations of citizens rights, including excessive use of force.

8. Protect Freedom From Excessive Bail, Excessive Fines, or Cruel and Unusual Punishment



* Repeal the Racket Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) laws which have been applied too indiscriminately, used to compel excessive fines and jeopardize First Amendment rights of all Americans to organize political demonstrations, and, especially, civil disobedience. Crimes like repeated trespass and destruction of property should be dealt with through existing local and state laws.

* It should not be considered an "excessive fine" for any government employee or agent involved in rights violations, excessive use of force, and other illegal activity to lose not only their jobs, but all law enforcement-related government pensions and benefits.

9. Protect Rights Retained by the People



* Facilitate the people's access to government information by ending secret classifications which prevent the public from obtaining information regarding government policies and actions (exceptions being such matters as private information coerced by government agents and defensive military plans). Government should expedite the processes by which individuals may obtain such information.

* End restrictions on the people's right to use some or all currently restricted psychoactive drugs. (This should also be considered under First Amendment religious rights.)

* Repeal the drug exemption to the posse comitatus law.

* Work for non-violent resolution of conflicts over sovereignty should communities, regions or states assert their right to secede from the United States of America.

10. Protect Powers Reserved to the States or the People



* End the practice of creating local-state-federal "multi-task forces" which override local powers so that local and state authorities cannot protect their citizens from excessive federal power.

* Ensure that the people retain the power to prevent local and state involvement in federal law enforcement actions and to press criminal and civil suits against local and state law enforcement which participates in any federal violations of rights.

* Restrict the Federal Bureau of Investigation to investigating only narrowly defined federal crimes like espionage, kidnapping across state lines, etc.; it should not become a national police force overriding the authority of local and state governments. * Pass an Independent Counsel law to prosecute crimes in the executive branch of government--including any massive governmental violations of citizens rights, as occurred in Waco, Texas--if the Attorney General refuses to appoint one.

 

Hi Spliff, You can't be reached by email. When I post & try to edit, it's OK if I hit the Edit button, but if I hit the browser's back button, it makes a new post. What I usually do then is make it into a poll or something short so as not to tick off the mods since we can't erase once we hit post. I realize you have links or color changes added as you edited along. Anyway, I left a hot lady about 4,000 miles down this thread. This is a very interesting but broad (and lengthy) topic. I like the first one about impairment that is pot related. The rest are worthy of their own thread. Is this Zerby or someone just as bipolar? Maybe you should post it under the Paranoia thread. Those types are always running from some perceived enemies, probably because so many of their followers turn on them, like Jones. I don't know if the feds are going to meet these demands. I think it just draws undue attention when people who are fringe martyrs to begin with start making demands for political change, if you know what I mean. Why get God mixed up with Country. That's just sounds like another tune out of Nashville or Crawford. Like the Sig, why not shrink it down a bit to icon size?

"..You can fear the reaper, fear the rod...but you don't have to holler please, please, to their little tin god" —Don Henley

 

That's like those big sandwiches in the cartoons, y'know the ones that stack up to the ceiling and the weird cat eats em' in one gulp.

 

—Oh, you mean the scrolled threads... Yeah, how about just a URL next time? Not only does it make people forget what the thread is actually about but if they do read it all they forget what day it is.

The story is, the same person went back to another Employment Agency & the price had gone up...It's really nice to be able to pay these people to know if you are sane according to their definitions of sanity, isn't it? I just think Employment Agencies don't have enough jobs in the Bush Economy to go around. So they're scraping to stay in business & now one more (HIDDEN) Tax has been passed on to the consumer! And even if you have a job, you just started making less money. -$35...

BigGover don't want another repeat of the VietNam Era. People who refuse to Sig-Heil & take drugs tests, keeping a tight-asshole as they march to the Russian front are obviously counter-culture. They'd make lousy cannon-fodder anyway. And we certainly wouldn't want them making our bullets back home.

How is it in some particular job sectors that they are worried about you doing damage somehow to yourself or their property even if you were stoned on your ass? What would that be, running with scissors & poking your eye out? How about jabbing yourself with a pencil, or flushing yourself down the toilet while smoking a dooby?

How many of these companies also have Christmas Parties on their premises with shredders & paper cutters & tool & dye machines & printing presses along with a bunch of DRUNKS in the same rooms? Most of them! (Otherwise how would they make all those photocopies of their asses unless they are able to get loaded onsite during the Holidays?) Do the insurance companies know about that? That's an actual impairment. I don't think it's every been proved that marijuana impairs peoples' ability to drive. Correct me if I'm wrong, except maybe the guy who's so baked he goes 2 miles an hour...

Another wrinkle is that they stick you in a room full of these Survivor-Types. Everyone has the answers memorized like a Miss America Pageant. If you missed the latest episode of Fear Factor, you will be disqualified.

This is all related to the Super-Race. If you can't empty the contents of your body for an illegal search, then you are not with us & so obviously you are against us! That makes you a borderline terrorist subject to the Patriot Act.