Is Saudi Arabia The Ultimate Evil Empire?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Karen_J, Jan 9, 2015.

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  1. NoxiousGas

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    then you jumped into the convo ignorant of the topic, correct?
     
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  2. storch

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    Good for you!
     
  3. thedope

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    Do you have a question about what happened or what he said? There is no argument about what happened.
     
  4. storch

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    Someone said something about the U.S. murdering people, and I had to agree based on the murdering that went on in Iraq. And apparently, you have a problem with my mentioning it. What's up with that?
     
  5. thedope

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    Listening and talking are something we do in person. reading and interpreting is what we do in written communication. YOu gonna use your logic or your tantrum?
     
  6. thedope

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    Shit you used the word no to begin.
     
  7. storch

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    NO I didn't.
     
  8. thedope

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    And you are no shit, but you got it.
     
  9. NoxiousGas

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    yes, but you continued to harp about Iraq even after it was made clear, or so I thought, that the conversation and comments were not exclusively about the Iraq war, yet you continued to attempt to draw the focus there.

    To be clear, I don't think Karen or myself necessarily disagree with you concerning the EMOTIONAL and MORAL implications of our involvement in the Iraq war, simply that it does not meet the criteria for a legal classification of murder and that our comments were concerning the much broader brush the article referenced painted with.
    Is that really so hard for you to understand?

    essentially sleepingcatepillar was saying "it tastes great" Karen and I were saying "it's less filling" and you jump in with "but it's brown"
    kinda in the wheelhouse of the conversation, but not what we were discussing.
     
  10. thedope

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    There are no arguments about what happened. there are arguments about what is said. If you have an argument about what is said then you don't understood what has been said.
     
  11. Karen_J

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    Yeah, I've always believed that in every war, at least one side was clearly in the wrong, if not both. I consider that to be common knowledge. It doesn't need to be repeated every time the subject of war comes up. In the last Iraq war, I think the US was on the wrong side.

    I think we're all starting to lose sight of Saudi Arabia's massive involvement in jihad and international terrorism, which have brought suffering and death to so many people all over the world. I don't want anyone to forget that, even though the national news media rarely mentions it.
     
  12. NoxiousGas

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    may I ask who appointed you arbiter of this discussion?
    or is it a self appointed position?
     
  13. Gongshaman

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    National media likes to talk about 'state sponsored terrorism'. They don't mind mentioning Qatar but it's Saudi Arabia's private sponsors of Isis and other jihadi groups they don't want to talk about.

    "Radical salafists across the Middle East receive ideological and material backing from within the kingdom. According to Clinton’s leaked memo, Saudi donors constituted “the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide”.

    "These rich individuals have long served as "angel investors," as one expert put it, for the most violent militants in the region, providing the “seed money” that helped launch ISIS and other jihadi groups."

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/31/combat-terror-end-support-saudi-arabia-dictatorships-fundamentalism
     
  14. thedope

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    High. I haven't spoken with you very much recently. I know you to be committed to fidelity in sound and tone and very advanced in your craft. Only people talk and only only people like.
     
  15. storch

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    I don't have you on a leash, and therefore I don't control what you decide to harp back at. I made my point that the Iraq war was an act of mass murder of innocent civilians because the pretext for that war was known lies, which makes those deaths premeditated. You're free to disagree, and you have. If you didn't want to discuss the Iraq issue, and how it pertains to murder, then you shouldn't keep harping on my idea about the truth of it. But you did, and are continuing to do so. Again, you can't help yourself it seems.

    So, to be clear, if you don't want to discuss it, then . . . don't.
     
  16. storch

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    I appointed him arbiter. And I accept full responsibility for doing so.
     
  17. thedope

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    What I have said in this thread, answers the question, what is the ultimate empire.
     
  18. storch

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    Aw man, now you're going to bring religion into this?
     
  19. NoxiousGas

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    well legally all parties must agree on the arbiter, and I wasn't asked, so.....
     
  20. thedope

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    Actually in the chat thread how does my dress look I said no more religion, if I didn't, no more philosophy.

    This is the aqua vitae.
     
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