Fear does not exist

no response to my post? I think I nailed it on the head... Descartes rocks...

 

Fear is an aspect of our being on a reactionary level - but it is not the source of our being, nor a necessary element of our existence. It exists if we decide it to exist - if and only if we decide.

Therefore fear is an internal decision of self.

Decisions do not exist, they are illusions of self.

Self exists, self decides what exists.

I do not think fear exists.

So it does not.

Your decision is your illusion...

 

I do not think aids exists. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3983706668483511310

 

You can say that about every other emotion, but so what?

 

It's YOUR reality but it's not reality. You can say for yourself that fear does not exist but it does for other people.

 

The point here is.

There is no reason to be scared of anything, ever.

If you are scared, ask why... the answer will conclude with a lack of fear.

Why direct your reality in such a manner?

Why do anything?

 

Fear is real and is quantifiable; it’s what keeps us alive and provides us with a moral center.

Imagine you suddenly find yourself in the middle of a major city entirely oblivious to consequence. You cross the street unafraid of the speeding cars traveling in either direction, and since you have no fear of injury or death (no fear at all for that matter) you cross the street. Let’s say you manage to make it across, each obstacle you face will be equally as challenging until your dead – it’s inevitable

No fear of disease, starvation, pain, dehydration, people, exposure to the elements ....etc....

Hotwater

 

Exactly. No it's not a real thing, but it does serve a purpose as an emotion, because it causes us to take precautions that keep us safer from danger. It's nothing more than an association (with things that are real,) but an important one.

 

For your example to make sense, I would have to be planted into a city and given 100% amnesia.

Its like saying if I was not afraid of death I would simply walk in a direction that I felt like, and eventually be killed as a result. But here, now, suggest that I walk in a direction for a *reason*... I walk this way for a purpose, and my purpose directs my action in such a way that I avoid all deadly obstacles.

Ever heard that following your bliss was the path to a joyous life?

I eat because i enjoy food. I don't feel as good when I don't eat, so I eat! I do not eat because I am afraid of death... I am fully aware that the food I eat may kill me! I may find some allergy that I've never recognized... I may eat some poison, I may choke and die on a chicken bone... I fear none of these consequences, I simply eat because I enjoy eating - the reaped consequences I learn from or die.

Having no fear of pain and purposefully inducing it to a degree that kills me are 2 very different things. Pain is an option, but why not go where I find joy? Why not direct my actions in such a way to spread joy?

Life has shown me my preferences... as a baby I COULD have crawled into the street and been ran over because I was not afraid... but at some point I discovered that when I did some things my body tells me to stop (pain)... and I discovered that if I walk in front of a car and get hit, its gonna really really hurt. Its not out of fear that I avoid the car now... its out of preference... I'd rather eat cherry pie than be paralyzed - if I'm paralyzed thats gonna make it much more difficult to get pie!!!!

And...

If I fearlessly walk into a street, get hit by a bus going 85mph and turn into a mushy substance not representative of my current self image...

so be my path

 

lol!!!

I read this and thought....

wow I don't remember typing that???

Right on man

Though to say fear is an "important" association is to infer that something is less important. All associations are equally important, just as all of reality is equally important.

Just as...

Identify something in your current perception that is *not* a sign of something else...

 

Fear is the driving force behind life, without fear you would have no motivation, no purpose

Hotwater

 

Hah.

That sounds agonizingly similar to:

"If there was no money, people wouldn't do anything!"

Sorry friend, I do not need to fear to act - just as I do not need money to desire.

I need nothing and I have no purpose. What I do is merely for personal enjoyment. It is for that reason that I act, not fear... but love!

I LOVE dates, garlic, rice, sex, live music, smiling and being surrounded by smiles... I do not have sex because I am afraid of it!?!?!?!? I do not smile because I am afraid of frowning!?!?!? I do not throw some garlic into my recipes because I am afraid of not having it!!!!

I breathe because I do not enjoy the feeling of choking! I eat because I do not enjoy the feeling of starvation!

Death may come at any time for any reason, why oh WHY should my life be driven by fear of the inevitable???

Absurd is the notion that I am driven by fear!

What drives you, who knows??? You do!

Your prescriptions of a fear driven life do not resonate with me - I know it is not as enjoyable as a life of love!!!

 

fear is real, because you can feel it. and if i can feel something, i believe its real.

 

The point here is:

Fear is not an outside force, it is not an object that falls from the sky, landing on your head and causing havoc...

You *decide* to be afraid.

You *decide* to be angry.

You *decide* to love... to hate, to hurt, to cry, to smile, to feel a "weight" on your chest...

Decisions do not exist - the actions as a result exist.

I exist, and I do not decide to be afraid. My actions show that. I did type this message because I think it is a message worth putting forth for others to read

You, I dont know, but I don't know why anyone would decide to fear when it only blocks the mind from truth

 

you don't *decide* to be afraid, you don't really have a choice,

fear is different that other emotions, like you chose to be angry, nobody can MAKE you angry. however, fear is something you don't really have a say in. nobody can make me be afraid of the dark, i have always just been. and yes, fear is a force, it doesn't always have to be an inside force. fear keeps me from being in dark rooms alone, and fear keeps me from running up to a group of gangsters and offending them.

 

YOU tell you those men are "gangsters"

YOU tell you there is something in the dark that is not in the light.

YOU tell you this because at some point SOMEONE ELSE told you to be afraid, through whatever method there may have been...

But you still decide to be scared... you decide to let fear drive you - as opposed to you taking everything for exactly what it is.

Thats to say...

Fear is unreasonable.

And it is most certainly a decision.

This is why it is said that it is best to face your fear... the saying merely suggests that you should no longer fear... just stop deciding fearfully, start deciding logically

Stand in a room without windows (bathroom?)... turn off the lights...

Logically nothing changes....

Obviously there is nothing to be afraid of...

So what drives you?

 

important as in, crucial to keeping us alive, serving a necessary purpose (as opposed to something like ocd's - irrational fears that dont serve a purpose and are -in my opinion therefore not important)

 

is love real?

is compassion real?

is a fishing reel, real?

is a movie really played on a reel?

is joy real?




are you real?

 

My friend feared nothing.
He fell off a mountainside.
And died.

Thats true btw...

Moral of the story?
Fuck knows?
If u ain't afraid of sthg, try not to let it kill u?

 

I would have to disagree.

Fear is irrational thought. It's emotional thought. One in the same, right? Emotional intelligence is said to be 24x more powerful than rational intelligence.

That is why people panic and make bad decisions in the face of fear. Their ability to logically think through the situation is prohibited by wild fantasies of "what-if" scenarios.