so do these plants have any effect other than acting as an MAOI for ayahuasca brews? would making a brew void of dmt with either of these plants give any effect? if so, what?
absolutely. i can only speak of caapi, but it is psychoactive alone. though the visions require alot of focus and concentration. you expireince many effects from caapi alone. it is ayahuasca. how subtle do we want to speak on this? because ime it has a way of subtley transforming us over longer periods of time, long after it has left your body. ayahuasca works on many layers, not just physically.